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Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

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partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:48

My DS was at school today and his teacher addressed the class saying “I don’t want to hear from you unless you need the toilet, you’re in pain or injured.” My DS raised his hand and said “I’m pain and injured is kind of the same thing.” Another teacher overheard and shouted at him so much he was crying and still crying about it at bedtime.

obviously I only have his account of the incident so this is all the detail I have. He didn’t think he had said anything wrong. I’ve noticed this year he’s complained of strict scary teachers and he’s becoming anxious about going to school. Would appreciate opinions on whether this apparently very big telling off was justified. He said his friends were comforting afterwards and he was crying and apologising whilst the teacher continued to shout.

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BustopherPonsonbyJones · 05/10/2025 01:00

We don’t know because we weren’t there. However, in my experience, a child of six, who knows the class are being told to be quiet so work can be completed, also knows it isn’t appropriate to pipe up with yet another question. In my experience, it is done for laughs (just like teenagers) as even six year olds like a bit of attention from their peers. It isn’t unusual or shocking or the sign of a ‘naughty’ child, but I wouldn’t be making excuses for them when they do it. They are much more aware of how to push boundaries than you expect.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 05/10/2025 00:52

ThreePears · 05/10/2025 00:51

This wasn't smart-arse cheeky backchat from an adolescent, this was a child of 6 confused about whether being in pain or injured were the same thing or not, and asking for clarification. A not unreasonable question from a kid that age.

Teacher was 100% out of order.

He didn't ask for clarification. He erroneously corrected the teacher.

ThreePears · 05/10/2025 00:51

This wasn't smart-arse cheeky backchat from an adolescent, this was a child of 6 confused about whether being in pain or injured were the same thing or not, and asking for clarification. A not unreasonable question from a kid that age.

Teacher was 100% out of order.

dontmalbeconme · 05/10/2025 00:35

TicklishReader · 04/10/2025 23:40

I was addressing the posters who have defended shouting and losing their tempers. Also, those who say having a quiet word with a teacher would be a problem.

Wouldn't you want to know if a pupil of yours was crying at bedtime about what happened in your classroom?

Don't think there's a single one who has defended shouting or losing temper.

Many who have said he was rude and disobedient and deserved to be told off.

His own mother can't grasp that he is being disobedient when he does exactly what he's been told not to do, and can't see that he's being rude when he talks back and tries to (erroneously) correct the teacher. So it's easy to see that he has been allowed to be cheeky and disobedient at home, and it probably does feel unfair to him to be pulled up on the same behaviour at school. So yeah, he's gonna cry snd say it's unfair when someone tells him off. He'll probably describe a simple telling off as being shouted and screamed at too.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 05/10/2025 00:04

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 04/10/2025 23:05

Oooh big crime. Being a bit cheeky. Let’s yell at him.

😜

Well, exactly. It isn’t a big crime for a child to be cheeky and it isn’t a big deal to be told off when that happens.

Little boy is silly (or a ‘bit cheeky’).
Little boy is told off.
Little boy doesn’t like being told off.
Little boy doesn’t disrupt the class again for a while.

Perfect solution for all in the classroom ! Tale as old as time and no big deal if the parents stop indulging their child’s outrage at being called out for poor behaviour. Help them to learn from it and don’t find ways to excuse it.

Ultimately, parents need to parent and stop the momma bear nonsense.The overreaction shows a need for resilience from both child and parent.
😜😜

TicklishReader · 04/10/2025 23:40

blinkblinkblinkblink · 04/10/2025 19:54

Plenty of teachers on this thread have also said that the likelihood of the teacher actually shouting at a 6yo as opposed to talking firmly or sternly, is very, very unlikely. But it is common for children to report it as shouting if they've never been pulled up on their behaviour before.

I was addressing the posters who have defended shouting and losing their tempers. Also, those who say having a quiet word with a teacher would be a problem.

Wouldn't you want to know if a pupil of yours was crying at bedtime about what happened in your classroom?

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 04/10/2025 23:05

cherish123 · 04/10/2025 20:38

I'm afraid it is cheeky.
If your friend said it, you might ask for clarification. However, he was interrupting in class.

Oooh big crime. Being a bit cheeky. Let’s yell at him.

😜

WorkItUpYourBangle · 04/10/2025 23:03

birling16 · 04/10/2025 08:05

Sadly they are both. 6 is very very young. The teachers are basically being paid by results ( as in Victorian times) Also now everybody has to have a difference or a syndrome. They probably need an early night.
30 odd children, the National Curriculum, no TA....no wonder it's shit.

I get you and it is sad. Kids are being born with autism and adhd in record numbers though. Rather than deny that we need to be asking what the hell is going on that's causing it. I'm autistic so it's been going on for a long time although they say mine is genetic because it's part of a genetic disorder I have. I don't believe for a second it's innocent. Nor do I believe it's a gift. It's an infliction and I for one want to know why kids are being born to suffer. Something big will come out sooner or later. Sorry I wandered off on a tangent there. I just adore kids and see their little struggles and things for what they are, their limited understanding and capabilities due to their level of development. Too many people are nasty about them and say they're being bad. Maybe older kids but not little ones under 10.

cherish123 · 04/10/2025 20:38

AmbeeBambee · 04/10/2025 17:12

He wasn't cheeky - he was asking for clarification. I have a 7 year old who is an angel behaviour wise, has never said a thing cheeky to anyone ever and is praised consistently in school - but he needs clarification as he sees everything literally and wouldn't understand exactly what was meant there. Thank f* you aren't a teacher though.

I'm afraid it is cheeky.
If your friend said it, you might ask for clarification. However, he was interrupting in class.

ByTicklishGreenEagle · 04/10/2025 20:18

I'll have your guts for garters i was told off one teacher in junior school. I didn't understand wtf she meant?!

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 04/10/2025 20:16

HevenlyMeS · 04/10/2025 19:51

I'm so sorry your dear Son experienced this 😢God bless him & you
You know your own Son & he couldn't fake this amount of upset distress & tears 😳😔It's heartbreaking 💔
Small wonder our Beloved Children can suffer with school refusal & avoidance
I'm so reassured your dear Son can open up to his lovely understanding Mum so well
This is a huge part of the battle overcome
I'm praying for the utmost very best for You&Yours 💚

Thoughts and prayers.

Implodingyourmirage · 04/10/2025 19:59

blinkblinkblinkblink · 04/10/2025 19:54

Plenty of teachers on this thread have also said that the likelihood of the teacher actually shouting at a 6yo as opposed to talking firmly or sternly, is very, very unlikely. But it is common for children to report it as shouting if they've never been pulled up on their behaviour before.

Exactly. Children also cry for different reasons - part of going to school is getting used to being 'told off' by other adults in authority.

Rhaenys · 04/10/2025 19:58

I can see why some people may find that a bit cheeky, but it’s definitely not something worthy of being shouted at for. Teachers shouldn’t be shouting at pupils at all IMO.

blinkblinkblinkblink · 04/10/2025 19:54

TicklishReader · 04/10/2025 18:50

Is shouting at a six year old child until they cry the only way to stop low-level disruption?

Other teachers on this thread disagree.

Plenty of teachers on this thread have also said that the likelihood of the teacher actually shouting at a 6yo as opposed to talking firmly or sternly, is very, very unlikely. But it is common for children to report it as shouting if they've never been pulled up on their behaviour before.

HevenlyMeS · 04/10/2025 19:51

I'm so sorry your dear Son experienced this 😢God bless him & you
You know your own Son & he couldn't fake this amount of upset distress & tears 😳😔It's heartbreaking 💔
Small wonder our Beloved Children can suffer with school refusal & avoidance
I'm so reassured your dear Son can open up to his lovely understanding Mum so well
This is a huge part of the battle overcome
I'm praying for the utmost very best for You&Yours 💚

Implodingyourmirage · 04/10/2025 19:49

Late to the party, but agree with others that his back chat was an issue. He needs to learn to be quiet and not question every single comment.

HevenlyMeS · 04/10/2025 19:45

Yes exactly 😢

platinumanddiamonds · 04/10/2025 19:32

I would speak to the teacher. He’s obviously been really upset by her shouting. She shouldn’t be shouting at a child age 6/7. I know teachers are under a lot of pressure but shouting won’t achieve anything.You could explain he’s been really upset. He could be overreacting but I would still want some clarity on what actually happened.
Hope you manage to reassure him. We all want our children to enjoy school not become anxious.

Tolkienista · 04/10/2025 19:26

Notinhampshirenow · 02/10/2025 21:57

Please have a calm chat with the teacher. She was probably doing small group work which - if you are interrupted every 30 secs with trivial concerns - is quite annoying and detrimental to your small group.

Retired teacher here.
Your post is so relevant and believe me, until you've been in a classroom with 30 children of mixed ability and as you said working with a small group, you have no idea what it's like to be constantly interrupted.........I need a rubber, he's giving me dirty looks, I can't find a sharpener etc etc etc.

Pinkdhalia · 04/10/2025 19:17

If the teacher shouted to loud and in a scary way then no, it's not appropriate he's only 6! However before summer break it might have been a younger environment where children were less manageable, now he needs to know what is acceptable. Perhaps he was being mischievous. So he has to learn now that's not acceptable in lessons. But it's not good that a teacher shouted at him. A lower tone and a shh would be good!

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 04/10/2025 19:13

TicklishReader · 04/10/2025 18:50

Is shouting at a six year old child until they cry the only way to stop low-level disruption?

Other teachers on this thread disagree.

I would be surprised if every teacher felt the same. Anyway, it is a free market - find a school where the teaching suits your parenting style, I suppose. Personally, I would be looking for a school where poor behaviour is stopped in its tracks. Each to their own!

TicklishReader · 04/10/2025 18:50

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 04/10/2025 18:45

It’s a job most teachers take very seriously. Low level disruption stops learning. Teachers (should) stop low level disruption so all children can learn. If one little boy who has been a little bit silly is stopped in his tracks, all children will find it easier to learn, including him. A minor incident and one which does not need all this woe. He will get over it like countless children before him. In the words of the song, let it go.

Is shouting at a six year old child until they cry the only way to stop low-level disruption?

Other teachers on this thread disagree.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 04/10/2025 18:45

TicklishReader · 04/10/2025 18:38

If teachers cannot handle these situations without losing their temper, it's probably best they leave.

It's a job, not a prison sentence.

It’s a job most teachers take very seriously. Low level disruption stops learning. Teachers (should) stop low level disruption so all children can learn. If one little boy who has been a little bit silly is stopped in his tracks, all children will find it easier to learn, including him. A minor incident and one which does not need all this woe. He will get over it like countless children before him. In the words of the song, let it go.

TicklishReader · 04/10/2025 18:38

Lavenderblue11 · 04/10/2025 18:26

This, 💯!

If teachers cannot handle these situations without losing their temper, it's probably best they leave.

It's a job, not a prison sentence.

dontmalbeconme · 04/10/2025 18:35

katepilar · 04/10/2025 18:04

The teacher should be the one to teach the children this.

I think in this scenario the teacher should have responded calmly saing something like Well, thats an interesting point and we can discuss it later. Now I need you to be quiet.

But it wasn't an interesting point, it was incorrect nonsense said to try to get one up in the teacher. And in any case, he'd been told not to talk, and so he was being wilfully disobedient. He needed to be pulled up on his bad behaviour.

Of course, screaming and screaming at him would be inappropriate, but I think it's exceptionally unlikely that happened.

Most likely he got an age appropriate telling off. The fact that his DM can't recognise disobedience or back chat as poor behaviour suggests that he has previously be able to get away with bad behaviour unchecked. So to him it might seem unfair that bad behaviour his mum lovingly indulges gets him into trouble at school. But his behaviour was very poor, and he needed pulling up on it.

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