Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

But he wasn’t learning was he? The fact another teacher stepped in, and the wording used, suggests the first teacher had asked several times for quiet. After several requests, to be arguing with the teacher about her wording at the age of six clearly needed a firmer response.

If you repeatedly ignore instructions you are going to end up shouted at.

The teacher was asking them to be quiet and he gave her some back chat, a telling off was definitely deserved for that.

Sensitive kids can really take things to heart- even a teacher who is bit more direct (but still lovely) was enough to upset one of my children. I had the chat with child that different people are different, and a good thing about school is learning to get along with different types of teacher (and the other kids!!)- its good life preparation.

That said, he shouldn't be made to feel intimidated by mean shouty teachers. On the other hand if he is a bit of a "live wire"- curious, intelligent but maybe a bit too prone to speaking his mind, then it probably is time he learned to sit and obey an instruction for silence as they may well be gradually training them to sit still and listen as they work their way up through the school. He may well find this harder than more free play based classrooms. Its impossible to tell from your OP which if these is going on!!

He’s been told off, got upset, and he probably won’t do it again. Explain the difference between in pain and injury to him at home and tell him that when silence is expected it’s not a good idea to backchat. My DC was told off at 6 for a good reason, was upset at home time and as far as I know wasn’t in trouble again.

Again, in it depends on context. Although I'm sure your little darling did nothing wrong and it was all the teachers fault. That's what you obviously want to hear, so there you go.

It is exactly the kind of clarification a 6yo asd child might make. Calling the child a “smartass” is offensive. Telling the child off is a problem.

a cheeky child would have brushed off a telling off, but a nd child is not going to understand that they did anything wrong. They are legitimately seeking clarification of the teacher’s imprecise language.

He was being a smart arse and deserved a ticking off. Whether the teacher over reacted or not is debatable. A shouting tirade = over reaction, a firm rebuke = reasonable. However, 6 year olds are prone to exaggeration so it's hard to know.

What is worrying is that you don't seem to see his behaviour as unacceptable.

They're six years old and it's no longer the 1800s. Not many 6 yr olds are capable of making a 'smart arsed' comment either. Lad is clearly upset about whatever went on which needs addressing so a chat with teacher best solution.

Did your sons friends give you their version?

My daughter's (aged 10) class what's app group blew up last week regarding a comment made by their teacher. Very quickly it was obvious that very child had a different version of what was said and how much break they missed, and even which break (morning vs lunch).

I suggest speaking to the teacher to get an explanation. Also be prepared to apologise for your childs cheeky comment.

No it seems unlikely. 6 year olds aren't very reliable narrators.

I'd definitely talk to him about when it is and isn't appropriate to question/correct the teacher though.

So your child who is so good and sensitive was cheeky enough to pipe up with this? Sounds like you have some blinkers on. He’s probably crying from being caught out and embarrassed. Tell him to behave next time

I have the same rules for when I’m working with a small group. It’s about not being constantly interrupted with rubbish like “he kicked a pencil!” And giving the children you’re with an opportunity for all group support.

OP - I will say you know your own child. You say you have noted a big change since going back, he is anxious and upset going to school. Something is causing it, I would say that is something that needs to be gotten to the bottom of.

So this could be a young Year 2 or an old Year 1 child. Most likely is they class were being very noisy, not getting on with whatever task they had been given, maybe had several reminders or warnings and still constantly mithering. The usual mithering follows the line of ‘what do we have to do’ after being told 20 times, ‘can I sharpen my pencil’ that doesn't need sharpening, ‘Sam won’t share the rubber with me’ and other trivia. So the teacher has raised her voice as a final reminder, and your DS has not only not kept quiet, but has made a smart-arsed comment to boot.
Perhaps he shouldn’t have been told off enough to make him cry, but neither should he have commented. BTW, you can be injured and not in pain and you can be in pain but not injured, so he was a smart arse but also incorrect.
Did no one tell you about the incident at pick up? If a child in my class had been crying their parent would have been informed.

Yeah, it would seem rude to the teacher, or cheeky, at least. What on earth possessed him to pipe up like that when they’d just been told to stop talking?

It does sound like the teacher’s reaction was somewhat extreme, but the fact they’d all been told to be quiet suggests this was an end-of-tether situation.

I’d talk to him about recognising when it’s appropriate to talk back and when it isn’t (without blaming him - he’s still very young and it takes some children longer than others to learn these things).

How do you know he sobbed and apologised for two minutes? Where they his exact words?

The key word there is LEARNING. He's 5, shouting at him is not teaching.

YABU - it’s cheeky, unnecessary back chat.

Why is he making a literal exploration of what the teacher has said when he has just been told not to disturb her unless it's an emergency?

A long rant at a sobbing 6 year old does sound pretty unlikely though. Even shouty primary school teachers don't tend to rant.

Don’t you remember children occasionally crying from being told off by a teacher when you were a child? I do! It was not at all uncommon.

The child was rude, and calling out when they knew they weee not supposed to. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with what the teacher did. We can complain about standards of behaviour in schools slipping at the same time as complaining about teachers disciplining children.

Rude of him but I can understand how a 6yo wouldn't see that. Massive overreaction of the shouting teacher, though presumably things were already going badly wrong with behaviour and chatting for the first teacher to have made that remark in the first place.

I imagine the class was being repeatedly disruptive hence the warning of needing to be quiet. He was cheeky and needs to learn that was an inside thought.

Because sometimes students have to work in silence! So everyone can concentrate! And learn! Silence is fine