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Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

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partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:48

My DS was at school today and his teacher addressed the class saying “I don’t want to hear from you unless you need the toilet, you’re in pain or injured.” My DS raised his hand and said “I’m pain and injured is kind of the same thing.” Another teacher overheard and shouted at him so much he was crying and still crying about it at bedtime.

obviously I only have his account of the incident so this is all the detail I have. He didn’t think he had said anything wrong. I’ve noticed this year he’s complained of strict scary teachers and he’s becoming anxious about going to school. Would appreciate opinions on whether this apparently very big telling off was justified. He said his friends were comforting afterwards and he was crying and apologising whilst the teacher continued to shout.

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Namechange2700000 · 03/10/2025 00:06

partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:58

I would be happier if I could be reassured that he was being a smart arse and got a deserved ticking off. I’d rather that than worry about disproportionate reactions from teachers who can’t keep their tempers. Is what he said really rude though and not just a literal exploration of what the teacher has said?

Seriously? This has got to be a wind up!

sas758 · 03/10/2025 00:06

Melancholyflower · 02/10/2025 23:28

A 6 year old being a bit rude is not being spoken to like shit.
I’ve managed to deal with the year 6s I’ve worked with for several years without having a shouty rant at a child, because my behaviour management skills are better than that.

Try working for the NHS ! I get shouted at by fully comprehensive adults on a daily basis for less pay !! Get over it

OnlyInsomniaInTheBuilding · 03/10/2025 00:05

I'm surprised by all the responses saying the child was cheeky / rude / back-chatting / a know-it-all. It's exactly the sort of thing my 6yo would have said, just because he's very literal. No ASD or SEN (that I know of), but he's very literal and gets hung up on things being said very precisely. Any ambiguity or redundancy is really confusing for him. DH is exactly the same. I think that's just the way some people's minds work - they're not being rude; at least on DS and DH's case, they're trying to understand what you mean and why you've said it the way you have. It's very annoying sometimes, but it's innocently done.

Girlmum1995 · 03/10/2025 00:05

ParmaVioletTea · 03/10/2025 00:04

Of course he was in the wrong. It’s back chat to a teacher who’s just given explicit instructions. It was cheeky smart arse behaviour.

He’s 6!!! He’s not back chatting the teacher ffs he was trying to understand in his head why the teacher said what she said

ParmaVioletTea · 03/10/2025 00:04

Of course he was in the wrong. It’s back chat to a teacher who’s just given explicit instructions. It was cheeky smart arse behaviour.

lupeds · 03/10/2025 00:03

partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:58

I would be happier if I could be reassured that he was being a smart arse and got a deserved ticking off. I’d rather that than worry about disproportionate reactions from teachers who can’t keep their tempers. Is what he said really rude though and not just a literal exploration of what the teacher has said?

Difficult age to tell - for some 6yo's it would be cheeky but for others it could be just them clarifying their understanding. Given how upset he was I'd go with the latter in this case (a deliberately cheeky child generally expects a telling off!)

Definitely ask for teachers perspective of what happened, and explain how upset he was. If he's a very literal thinker that regularly needs clarification, there may be additional needs there that they should be aware of x

ragandbonewoman · 03/10/2025 00:03

Melancholyflower · 02/10/2025 23:31

Not in my school it isn’t. Our head makes it absolutely clear that shouting at children is not acceptable.

That’s what I thought too until I started volunteering, what an eye opener that was

sas758 · 03/10/2025 00:02

reversegear · 02/10/2025 23:44

Yes he was being rude and a smartarse. He really didn’t need to open his mouth at that point so next time maybe he will do as he’s told and be quiet? Is he not used to being told what to do or following instructions?

He is 6, I have a very strong willed 6 year old and dealing with her in this manner will not work, it's been tried and tested. I feel it's a bit excessive if I'm honest. And at that age are they really able to regulate when they open their mouth etc ? I wish mine could but unfortunately she can't. They are all different, not one for suits all. Diversity is a thing (or should be)

Toofficeornot · 03/10/2025 00:02

I can imagine my son would say a similar thing but not as smart arse. Just matter of factly and would be happy with an explanatio n that no, it is not similar becuase..
It sounds like a teacher who is used to an older year group perhaps.
Sometimes as well some kids just do not get on with particular teachers.
My eldest is in secondary and if he has a teaxher who gets him he is good, gets really high grades and no detentions. He has a couple of teachers who for some reason they dont get it each other and he is a different child altogether. His school will move them if they arent gettingbon with a teacher. Not as easy in primary, but I would get to the bottom of it with the teacher and ask for a meeting.

Girlmum1995 · 03/10/2025 00:00

ThejoyofNC · 02/10/2025 21:57

Why are you angry that they're being taught how to sit in silence and behave? Your son made a smart arsed comment and blatantly disobeyed the instructions he was given, of course he was told off. Maybe next time he will do as he's told.

Because he’s 6! 6 years olds shouldn’t be taught to sit in silence, I hate to think what school encourages this! My daughters doesn’t

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/10/2025 23:54

Blogswife · 02/10/2025 23:31

People are being ridiculous here !
If his version of events are to be believed he wasn’t being rude, it was a valid question . He even put his hand up ffs!
I’d ask Teacher for her version and to explain what actually happened to make DS so upset . Only when you’ve heard both sides can you decide what action to take

I disagree. If his version of events is to be believed, he was being cheeky.

UnintentionalArcher · 02/10/2025 23:54

ZebraPyjamas · 02/10/2025 22:26

I’m a teacher, similar age group. Children think it’s shouting when you correct them in a cross tone. Genuinely! I honestly think children are not used to being corrected any more and just cannot cope with it. I taught a lovely child last year who used to sob any time he got in “trouble” no matter how gently I approached it, I mean proper couldn’t catch his breath sobs! Have also heard them reporting incidents that I also witnessed first hand where they would describe someone (another child) as “screaming” at them when that someone was just speaking crossly. If you’re concerned, speak to the teacher but also yes what your child said was cheeky!

Teacher of teenagers here and I see the same thing frequently. Some children will often comment that an adult is ‘shouting at’ them when they’re just using a firm tone. I think these children are often not used to boundaries being set at home. I also think that some are aware that the days of it being accepted when teachers really, genuinely lost their rag are over and the accusation of ‘shouting’ when it really isn’t can be used to wrong foot or deflect from their own behaviour. The latter one wouldn’t be common with smaller children, though, I wouldn’t have thought. It’s more of a teenage tactic.

OP, as others have said, keep an eye out for possible neurodivergent traits. I can imagine this comment being made rudely or with a genuine lack of awareness. Also, do speak to the teacher - it will probably be helpful.

Cherryicecreamx · 02/10/2025 23:52

His comment is a bit cheeky but it sounds like an over reaction from the teacher to continue shouting after he's apologised. I have a 5 year old and he might say something like this thinking it's funny, no need to be so harsh on them. Definitely speak to the teacher to get her account on it.

Eviebeans · 02/10/2025 23:52

You probably know that there is a big change from reception to year one. There is an equally big change from year one to year two. They will be having SATS at the end of year two. Things can start to feel very different.
Maybe on this day what may have otherwise been a bit amusing was just said at the wrong time when they had just been given an instruction. He literally did what they had just been asked not to do. Imagine that x 30 - can be very disruptive

Silvertulips · 02/10/2025 23:51

Yes 6 year olds are often smart arses

Unless they are taught some manners.

WafflesOrIceCream · 02/10/2025 23:48

Sorry OP but he was being cheeky.

Fetaface · 02/10/2025 23:48

sas758 · 02/10/2025 23:38

Would flip my lid immediately, I've suffered anxiety in numerous settings and it's not nice. No teacher would make my child feel like that at school, I would definitely

speak up and clarify the situation.

So you prefer your child to spend all lesson fussing about a pencil than the teacher telling him to do some work. Oh the snowflakes....imagine a poor child being told to get on and work. It doesn't go in via osmosis. Kids have to work to learn.

Fetaface · 02/10/2025 23:46

sas758 · 02/10/2025 23:44

A smart arse at age 6 though ?

Yes 6 year olds are often smart arses.

reversegear · 02/10/2025 23:44

Yes he was being rude and a smartarse. He really didn’t need to open his mouth at that point so next time maybe he will do as he’s told and be quiet? Is he not used to being told what to do or following instructions?

sas758 · 02/10/2025 23:44

WalnutsAndFigs · 02/10/2025 21:56

Well he was being a smart arse wasn't he
It's very hard to know how much children embellish so I don't think anyone here can say for sure if the teacher was appropriately firm or figuratively transformed into a fire breathing monster

A smart arse at age 6 though ?

Cornishclio · 02/10/2025 23:39

Melancholyflower · 02/10/2025 23:33

Smart arse has always been a negative regardless who it is aimed at.

Yes I think it is rude, derogatory and offensive and would never use it either to another adult and definitely not a child.

surprisebaby12 · 02/10/2025 23:38

I would ask the teacher for their account and express concern about the tone of conversations

sas758 · 02/10/2025 23:38

partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:48

My DS was at school today and his teacher addressed the class saying “I don’t want to hear from you unless you need the toilet, you’re in pain or injured.” My DS raised his hand and said “I’m pain and injured is kind of the same thing.” Another teacher overheard and shouted at him so much he was crying and still crying about it at bedtime.

obviously I only have his account of the incident so this is all the detail I have. He didn’t think he had said anything wrong. I’ve noticed this year he’s complained of strict scary teachers and he’s becoming anxious about going to school. Would appreciate opinions on whether this apparently very big telling off was justified. He said his friends were comforting afterwards and he was crying and apologising whilst the teacher continued to shout.

Would flip my lid immediately, I've suffered anxiety in numerous settings and it's not nice. No teacher would make my child feel like that at school, I would definitely

speak up and clarify the situation.

SoOriginal · 02/10/2025 23:38

He was a smart arse and you should talk to him about that because it wasn’t an appropriate remark and it was rude… But he’s 6! They should have age appropriate behavioural management methods and shouting certainly isn’t one of them.

Get the teachers version, but if raised voices were used in a classroom setting then I’d be unhappy with that. He’s 6.

Silvertulips · 02/10/2025 23:36

and the teacher could have taken the opportunity to explain that but looks like they didn't bother and just told the child off

The teachers instruction was to be quiet - why should she waste more time giving the child more info?

Maybe his parents could teach him some manners?

You quite often see only children think they are the centre of the universe - parents used to tell us to shut up when others are talking particularly adults.

Some kids got the skipper or cane - yet this hoo ha over being told off!

OP by all means go and demand an explanation or explain to your child he was rude.

He’s probably not getting his own way at school hence the dislike of the teacher.

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