Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

Or perhaps the teacher was actually trying to teach ie it is a time the children need to listen to learn. Even if they don't want to listen, others in the class do want to listen. Or perhaps the teacher is working with a small group of children, and can't do that if they are constantly interrupted by things that aren't to do with the learning.

I’m not a teacher but I worked in a school years ago and helped out recently. The majority of primary / early years teachers have an amount of patience I don’t possess.
Unfortunately when children go to school the things they do on repeat at home simply cannot be done at school. They are not able to talk constantly, run around, interrupt or shout out. They have to sit down, keep their hands to themselves and not constantly shout out. There are usually 30 kids in a class. It’s impossible for the teachers to teach anything if they have to constantly stop and ask for children to be quiet. Parents would really help if they got their children ready for school. Help them to sit and have quiet time. Get them to wait their turn and not interrupt. Show them how to get dressed and undressed for PE. Teach them how to use cutlery to eat their lunch and how to wipe their own bottoms after using the toilet. The amount of stuff teachers are having to deal with from young children is overwhelming before they can start to teach them. After all this a stream of parents complaining their child is upset to deal with. I don’t know how they do it.

Yes, my dd would say the same.

Your son's account is very detailed for a 6 year old. Also the personality and actions doesn't align, a child that is sensitive wouldn't risk embarrassment of cheeking back / correcting a teachers' language in front of the class.

The comment from your son is rude in its context. The class were told to be quite in essence and rather than do that your son answered back. Surely you know that, if you put yourself as the teacher in this scenario what would you feel about his comment?

My own kids would say I was shouting at them when I was telling them not to do something they wanted to do. No raised voice (my kids were golden on the whole, so all I had to do was say no, and they would then stop). But because it was not something I usually had to do, they called it shouting.

Life is also hard when you just get told off, called rude without a proper explanation of why your behaviour is considered that.

He humiliated himself by rudely interrupting. He didn't like that he was told not to do this firmly afterwards. Sounds like a child who gets away with a lot of rudeness at home.

Why not? At times this will be needed so they can all focus on what they are learning. They don't need to interrupt and stop each other from learning.

So do you humiliate them when they step out of line?

Ah, but he is a sensitive child, remember. (Strange, as not so sensitive that he can read the room.)

I think the fact your child is unhappy and becoming anxious is enough yo say you are not unreasonable. Children can be literal. He never meant to be rude.

The key is listening to how he is feeling. Talk to them but dont expect much change. Some teachers are stricter and believer their way works . But it doesn't work for all the kids.

I would try to address the bigger picture with the school, how he has gone from being happy and confident to fearful, sad and anxious about school. Give his feedback and listen to theirs.

Good luck. You are there for him.

I would take this as a learning opportunity for your son.

Calmly sit him down and explain sometimes adults get cross and stressed and say things in a sharp way. Explain that his comment was unnecessary and could easily come across as cheeky and rude. Then also say “I trust you and will stand up for you but to do that I will need to speak to your teacher and fine out her side of the situation too. Would you like me to talk to her about how upset you were or do you think it would be best to learn from this and move on? No one should shout at your for two minutes and I will speak to her if that is what you want.”

I want my children to know I will stand up for them if it is warranted and when I have all the info From both sides to decide what to do. Also children are seeming to be increasingly less relent and more lost in life so I wouldn’t underestimate the importance of teaching them that not everyone is patient and kind all the time and not every rude comment and hurt needs battle lines drawn.

you know your child, if you have a balanced opinion of them then trust your guy. But if you do talk to the teacher please listen first and talk later.

Oh come on op, it is very clear he was being told not to talk at that time and he tried to be a bit clever, which was rude and inappropriate of him at that time. Usually, if a class is asked to work in silence it means they haven't been listening or doing there learning, which is what they are there for. All kids these days seem to describe being told off as 'being shouted at'.

I am puzzled. This sensitive child didn't sense the request of the teacher was serious. I assume that the teacher had asked the class several times to work quietly and not to interrupt unless they needed something serious dealing with. If they had sensed this, they wouldn't have asked the question.

I think the language used was very precise. The message was very clear.

Of course this isn't ok. What the teacher said isn't ok and shouting at your son for what he said isn't ok - he's 6 and a child.

My son is very literal and would say the same thing without ill intent - more feeling confused out loud.

Your child was a smart arse. While injured and in pain can overlap, you could have a sore throat because of a cold and not an injury but explaining that just delays the quiet time.
It’s hard to comment on the strictness side. Many parents feel that behaviour in schools is out of control and that incidents like this disrupt learning. They see quiet adherence as a sign of respect to the teacher and them being a good teacher in control. Remember that aome kids see a quiet classroom as calm and better for learning plus it’s easier for the adults to manage things and spot problems. My son is like yours and finds a different environment as best but strict is the fashion these days.
I think that you need to clarify with the school about the telling off. My kids describe telling off from teachers very harshly as there is an element of embarrassment as it’s an unusual event and they want their teachers to be impressed by them. Even if the teacher didn’t raise their voice, the telling off seems worse to them so they used words like shout. I’m not saying that your son wasn’t shouted at but he must have felt embarrassed that everyone else heard and saw him cry. My son could be told off without raising my voice (his siblings couldn’t ) but an adult like a teacher looking after him wouldn’t know that and could have seen scarier than me.

If he is saying comments like that, he can’t be that scared of the teacher.

Which is why the job isn't for everyone if you can't manage to keep calm and controlled. Grace under pressure and all that.

It was cheeky of him to reply like that, and you might explain why so he can avoid doing it another time. If the teacher literally shouted she was out of order, but sometimes children use ‘shout’ to mean ‘tell off’.

I did something to a tendon in my arm once. I woke up in the morning and I couldn't straighten my arm out, it was like something was gone that used to let me stretch it out. No pain at all. I had to keep my arm in like an imaginary sling position. It was about 3 days before it went back to normal.

I was definitely injured, but not in pain.

Proper smart-alec backchat from him. I’d tell him not to dish it out if he’s going to cry all day for being told off. And yes I know he’s 6 but he needs to learn a bit more resilience. He’s also wrong - they aren’t the same at all. You can be in pain but not injured and you can be injured but not be in pain (which is more unusual but it can happen). The teachers obviously aren’t that mean and scary if he feels free to make these comments.

He is six years old. This is not okay. It’s one thing when a teacher snaps in a ‘last straw’ kind of way to a room full of poorly behaved teens, but shouting at a six year old for blurting something out is awful.

Also don’t like the sound of the heavy handed strictness for such young kids. Personally I’d be raising it with the head teacher.

It may be a habit where this little boy has encouraged to always pipe up with his opinions and observations as his loved ones usually tell him how clever it makes him.