Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

Shit teacher. (Ex teacher of six year olds)

Needs to learn you catch more flies with honey.

I go into schools regularly and have never seen a 2 minute rant for something like this. I suspect he’s embarrassed because he got told off in front of everyone.

I agree speak to the teacher if you’re worried.

I also think he’s got to start learning to think about context. Unless he’s autistic it really should have been clear to him that the teacher was asking everyone to be quiet. Plus he’s not right, being in pain can and does happen other than when someone is injured (headache, toothache, infections). So if you’re speaking to school, I hope you’re also making this clear to him.

Just imagine how you would cope if you had to deliver training sessions all day, for 5 days a week, week after week to the same group of 56 years? That would be a more interesting and less smug comparison.

Teachers have to give training sessions to adults quite often. It is comparatively easy.

But you must know as a former teacher, apparently, that a child's recollection of an event of something that happened in class can be very different to what actually happened. I'm surprised you have immediately decided the teacher definitely did shout and rant in the child's face for two minutes.

Prolonged shouting indicates a teacher has lost control. That's not strict, that's just unacceptable. They either need more support or a career change.

Yeah, probably because he'll refuse to go to school where he is miserable

I would try to speak to the teacher today, it doesn’t need to be a big deal but you need to hear their side. The fact it wasn’t mentioned at pick up would make me think it wasn’t as long a rant as your son feels it was. Don’t totally dismiss his feelings but it does read as he was being a bit rude, if he was genuinely asking if injured and in pain were the same thing it was just bad timing, telling a teacher that they were the same thing means he miss read the tone/intention (at 6 this will happen). He might be struggling with the transition to more ‘formal’ school work so worth a check in with the school.

You are entitled to disagree, you're still wrong.

You may not have understand what I wrote so I'll repeat - at no point did I say the comment from the child was the right action. My point is the teacher's reaction was professionally unacceptable.

All the armchair experts out as usual. Regardless of what did or didn’t happen it is perfectly possible to sit in silence at age 6 provided you don’t have any sort of additional needs/ neurodivergence.

Where you say "he was crying and still crying about it at bedtime" do you mean he was crying all evening, or was he fine and then got a bit teary at bedtime?

I'd be more concerned by the former than the latter

I would have told my son that he wasn’t in pain, he wasn’t injured and he didn’t need the toilet so he should have been quiet. I would have also sympathised with him about the shouting but explained how he could avoid getting into trouble in the future. Some children are really good at sensing when the teacher has had enough and others are completely clueless. It is a life skill that he will gradually have to develop if he doesn’t want annoy every teacher he has between now and his A levels.

Just trying to imagine how the teacher would cope in a boardroom. I give some training and you get 56 year olds making far worse comments and they don't put their hands up.

My kid at 6/7 would say she scolded me for 10 hours. His times a very....7 year old. Typically it means, I really really want you to hear me and may be conform me.

No they dont hate children, they have a realistic view if 6 year olds.

Quite. The best and most enjoyable year I had at primary school was with a teacher who encouraged polite debate and getting everyone to speak up in class.

I guess we haven't met the same 6 year olds then. The majority are quite innocent and haven't yet picked up on all social cues.

‘Exploration of what the teacher said’?! He immediately answered back when the teacher had requested silence and was told off because he commented with a smart arse unnecessary response. I guarantee the teacher was dealing with lots of low level disruption and had reached the end of her patience. It’s unfortunate that he’s upset, but your ds made a badly timed non-essential comment despite being told to be quiet.

It's not about whether his intentions were to be rude. He WAS rude.

My DD is like this - constantly arguing with the teachers over literal interpretations. She's just been diagnosed ASD.

Edited to add, perfectly formal for Year 2 to learn to sit in silence. There's a big BIG transition to juniors coming next year and once out of EYFS and the softly softly approach of Year 1, it gets much firmer in terms of what is appropriate in a classroom setting.

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I have never said that. Please don’t ascribe other peoples comments to me as that isn’t fair. And also isn’t my opinion. Thank you.

I can remember in infant school sitting cross legged on the scratchy carpet with fingers on lips during assembly or story time. We were expected to be in silence. And we were.

I'm actually surprised by a lot of the responses here. The bigger issue for me is that the class was told "I don't want to hear from you unless..." Like. WTF?! This is gross and in my book grounds to complain regardless of what happened next, especially in the context of other stories to just be completely quiet, etc.

It is interesting how we're normalising this. Your kid is 6. 6! Being told to sit in silence is asking too much, of anyone, let alone a 6 year old and the fact that many adults here are like, well, yeh, that's fine, just goes to show how deeply entrenched these systemic ideas are. I do understand that teachers are under enormous strain and having children be respectful and not too chaotic and noisy is quite necessary. But we need to be complaining about and changing a system that makes teaching so difficult, not accepting that our kids have to act like they're in the army under a strict regime from 4/5 years old.

Anyway, beyond that, I'm sure your kid was probably being a little cheeky. But the fact they were so so upset afterwards...I dunno. Usually the cheeky kids are pretty bouncy after a little telling off so this sounds like quite the telling off...feels completely overreactive to what happened in my book... (And ps, a teeny bit of cheekiness is to be celebrated, IMHO)

Absolutely ridiculous of the teacher OP. YANBU.

And the teacher sounds like a fucking drone, happy to read out their teaching script handed down by Academy chain leadership paid more than the PM and yell at 6 year olds who are paying attention and want to contribute, and implement ridiculous behaviour strategies.

And at 6 years old he should know very well the difference between being injured and being in pain. It wasn't a very smart 'exploration' a bit ignorant 😂

Never mind whether you judge the comment, or his intentions, to be rude or not.

Tell him that’s not the point. He had been asked to be quiet/silent and he IMMEDIATELY disregarded that request. That’s the important thing here and something he needs to grasp quickly.

I suspect there are children who are encouraged to question everything in home discussions where parents have plenty of time to chew the fat with them. That’s fine at home. But there are different rules at school. The teavpcher is not your adoring mum or dad. They have 29 others to help and a lot of curriculum to get through.

Teach your child to understand the difference between A home and a school context. It won’t be a wasted lesson.