Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

And if he was a clever cheeky chap, he'd said he needs the loo or is in pain😂
But no, he was just disruptive without any wit or charm.

He was rude and got told off
He obviously wasnt all distraught at pick up when dh picked him up and chat to the teacher
Honestly op I think he is playing on your sympathy

This makes no sense at all.

If little chap is taking things so literally, he'd have stayed quiet as he was neither injured, needed the loo nor was he in pain.

There are some children who find it hard to follow the teacher's instructions. It's up to his parents to support him with being ready for learning.

So does that require shouting at a six year old until they cry?

Obviously you need a calm chat with the teacher about what happened - don’t be surprised if a 6 year old has embellished his version.
He was being cheeky/rude and hopefully a lesson has been learned - but not the lesson of if I cry mum will be on my side.
The teacher could have any number of genuine reasons to say what she did. She drew a line in the sand and your son chose to cross it - he deserved a reprimand but he also now knows that if he gets upset enough it will get him lots of attention.

Strange thread this. Yes we don't really know what's happened but a telling off shouldn't be delivered in a way that makes the child cry, twice.

OP it's difficult to do something about this, but I'd ask for the teacher's side and keep a close eye on how ds feels about school. Hope tjings get better.

Me too. The whole system needs starting again from the beginning.

Just wondering is there a possibility your child is neurodiverse - as this sounds like a very genuine comment and ND kids see the world a little differently. To me, the comment sounds like a child’s genuine curiosity in any case and not rude! Even if he had been ‘cheeky’, teachers cannot bully children. That’s not the same as discipline. I would be having a strong word with the teacher and their boss. Hope your son is ok.

I currently teach year 1 but have also taught year 2.

Yes children need to learn to have periods of concentration and quiet but if I’d have spoken to any class in my school like that in front of the head he’d be appalled

And categorically the only time I’ve ever shouted is to be heard over children playing.

I agree with pp that the teacher doesn’t sound good but an ask about the incident at drop off is worthwhile to get the full story

Im absolutely amazed at parents on this thread who think a 6 year old should suck it up.

Any good teacher of this age group would know how literally young kids take things and be quite happy to answer the question in the spirit it was asked.

You really would need the other perspective.

If I told my kids at that age, in a calm but stern voice, that they had behaved badly and I was disappointed in them, they would describe that as being told off and shouted at.

I would have been quite cross with him in that scenario.

He is 6!! He was juat sharing his thought. For an older kids its a smart comment at 6 its sharing an opinion. If i was the teacher i would find it hard not laugh tbh. And if he is over sensitive that needs nuture and kindness. No 6 year old should be in tears over saying a badly timed sentence. Firm tellings off are for violence, bullying, repeatedly doing what you shouldnt be (continual talking or not working). Not for puting his hand up sharing his (correct) opinion and apologising when he is told is was rude. Especially with an over sensitive child. I feel a bit sad reading that. Some teachers shouldnt be teachers. No need for that. She could have responded "fair point as i was saying...". They are 6. She never would have responded that way to an adult. Kids need respect too. In an usually well behaved kind well mannered 6 year old, the teacher she have recognised that at his young age that was not deliberate. I was a sensitive child and still recall my teacher losing it over not very much in p3. Its not ok.

Well, I do see that. My kid was very upset when her teacher told her to stop plaiting her hair whilst she was talking, and my kid thought that meant she should undo the plait and then got shouted at again because she was still playing with her hair. She was upset because she wasn't trying to be naughty. I had a chat with her about how the teacher probably meant "stop playing with your hair" and that it was just one of those things and sometimes you have to accept that misunderstandings and tiny injustices will happen but they're survivable.

The fear my daughter had was that the teacher now hated her, and my response to that was to reassure her that for the teacher this was probably one of a million similar interactions in a class of 27 and she wouldn't even remember it tomorrow. I didn't hear anything about it again after that. So I do agree that maybe some parents need to help their kids to weather these small setbacks and I can imagine that some of them come in with all guns blazing.

Is get over it aimed at me? Because it was another poster talking about 'being spoken to like shit all day' when a young child is being a bit rude, not me.

The whole point is that he had been told not to interrupt (presumably so he could get on with his work and she could help a group).
The whole class do not need to stop learning so that one can 'explore the teachers words'.
At home that would be fine. At break that would be fine. In learning time that is not fine.
She had just set a clear boundary and your son broke it immediately to chat back/explore her wording (whichever way you view it).
I would love to see you try and teach a group of 30!kids whilst they all shout out to explore your wording !!

I can see how this could be construed as cheeky but for another child, this is just literal.

The teacher sounds quite draconian.

All that said, we don't really know the context or the atmosphere of the classroom at the time, so all of these things are open to interpretation.

So you think teachers leaving en masse is the solution? Oh, hang on, that's already happening. Teacher recruitment and retainment are at historically low levels. If it carries on at this trajectory, by the time the current Reception cohort reaches secondary, it will be so bad that class sizes will be far greater than 30 and specialist subjects will disappear because there won't be any teachers trained in them.

I am so thankful my DD left school this year for good!

If a child made a cheeky comment like the OP did they’d be put on the first stage of our behaviour management system. If you read the OP though it was another teacher that overheard and shouted at the child.

Unfortunately he came across as cheeky whether he intended this or not. The teacher was clearly trying to tell the class that they need to stop disrupting the input or when adults are talking, and that the only time they should do this is really if its something important. He needs to learn there is a time and place and maybe should have held this thought til later as it sounds like the teacher was wanting them to be quiet immediately.
We have reached that point where a lot of children are now feeling settled into the classroom and more low level disruption occurs - requests for the toilet and getting a drink despite just having had break, getting up from carpet spaces/desks as and when they feel like, not doing the worksheets as requested e.g. doing one question and then waiting.
I doubt the class have to be silent all the time, but in our school the rule is that input is a time for listening and shouldn't be disrupted.

The hyperbole on this thread from parents is quite something! I wish every parent was made to spend a day in a classroom as part of their child's induction into school to see actually what happens. Children are not being forced to sit in silence all day, but pockets of silence are necessary for them to learn and concentrate and teachers must employ behaviour management to ensure that happens – and that includes being firm and telling off any child who isn't keeping quiet. Understanding and following instructions is a necessary part of that learning as well. If parents think it's cruel to make children sit in silence in a classroom while a lesson is being taught then they should deregister and homeschool.

I think your son was cheeky and pushing his luck. I am quite sure you have recieved a different version of the situation from your child. He does not sound like a sensitive and well mannered child!

Well I know it IS the case in the school I work in.

It seems a bit odd that another teacher coming in to the room was the one to deliver the "shouty" punishment. But undermining to the original teacher?
Unless it was a senior teacher, Deputy Head or whatever?

My children would often say a teacher "shouted" at them when it was a teacher simply raising their voice. It conjures up the idea of a red-faced out of control rant to say shouted but children's perception of "shouting" is different.

It sounds like your child may have unintentionally been rude and a chat about why the teacher might have not liked what he asked would be worthwhile.
I would then leave it and not make to much of it unless your child continues to be upset or is worried about going to school.
We need to encourage resilience in our children and this might be one of those times.

👏perfect and best response

Get context. The teacher may have already given multiple warnings that kids need to be quiet

What I hear coming out of schools is so bad now that I don't respect any teachers who are happy to work in this system which is actively harming children.