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My children have ruined my birthday.

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Fluffalumpper · 26/09/2025 20:53

It’s my birthday today. I’m 43 so they obviously don’t mean much to me anymore. I hadn’t really given it much thought, I hadn’t asked for anything (I never do) and didn’t expect anything special because we never really celebrate it.

My partner bought me a couple of nice gifts and the children (DD10 and Dd8) were excited. Nothing had been planned and we had nothing in for dinner but had floated ideas of having a drink in the pub after work and picking up something nice for dinner.

We were just about to go to the pub when cue my lovely children starting a huge screaming fight involving slapping each other, slamming doors and hurling abuse.

They’re both bright, happy kids and usually fairly well behaved with the odd hiccup but have recently started having these screaming matches when told to do something (like get ready to go out).

Now, like most parents I imagine, my whole life is focused on these kids. I’m constantly looking for experiences to enrich their lives, all my money goes in to them. I’m the bread winner so I book, plan and pay for all the holidays, birthday parties,clubs, gifts etc. Not that we spoil them but the long hours I work and worries I have are for these kids.

Is it too much to ask that they don’t behave like this on my birthday? I’m pretty sure that at 8 I was self aware enough to know this isn’t right.

We cancelled the trip to the pub, they were sent to their rooms except for a short break for a quick dinner and then sent to bed. The screaming and wailing and even shouts of “this is my worst day ever!” lasted over 2 hours. They feel so sorry for themselves and had to be told off multiple times by my partner.

I’ve had nothing for dinner and have taken myself to bed.

I don’t need advice about my parenting- they’re usually pretty well behaved and their behaviour tonight was exceptionally bad, but am I right to feel a bit sorry for myself and unappreciated?

For context they acted similarly on Mother’s Day 🤦🏻‍♀️

OP posts:
Coffeeishot · 27/09/2025 09:31

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 27/09/2025 09:29

Exactly. I have a 10 year old. We make a big deal
if special occasions in our house (birthdays, mothers/fathers day, job promotions, sporting achievements etc) so DS gets excited to celebrate occasions which are not about him.

This is what we did, I mean my children were not perfect but not making everything about them helped.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 27/09/2025 09:29

Coffeeishot · 27/09/2025 09:20

If children think everything is for their entertainment then they will act out if things are not for their entertainment.

Exactly. I have a 10 year old. We make a big deal
if special occasions in our house (birthdays, mothers/fathers day, job promotions, sporting achievements etc) so DS gets excited to celebrate occasions which are not about him.

Lotsofsnacks · 27/09/2025 09:29

Fluffalumpper · 27/09/2025 08:53

@Lotsofsnacks both are very aware of what they did. The youngest is currently making an apology card without prompting from DP.

This is great they are doing this, but, at the time they behaved selfishly and didnt think of the consequences their behaviour had on your bday plans

Coffeeishot · 27/09/2025 09:27

Fluffalumpper · 27/09/2025 09:23

@lurchersforever you’ve inserted your own narrative there. DP does work but earns considerably less than me. I pay ~80% of everything but don’t expect to pay for my own presents. If that means I get less the that’s by the by, I don’t make a fuss of my birthday, but what I do get (such as a quick drink at the pub after a stressful week at work) I expect my very much of an age to understand kids not to shit on.

I think you need to put yourself out there a bit. I am not saying you have to act like some sort of Diva, but saying it is mums birthday on "saturday" what shall we do, i think we need to teach consideration for others rather than expecting it to come naturally.

the7Vabo · 27/09/2025 09:23

Dannydevitoiloveyourart · 27/09/2025 09:19

OP said they don’t behave like this all the time.

Children are allowed to have an off day, while still learning how to regulate those emotions. I’m not sure how we would expect children to behave perfectly at that age without sometimes getting it wrong. The consequences should therefore be proportionate to the act, with the aim of helping them get those emotions back in control/ understanding how to better regulate themselves next time.

Twice they have had a “day off” on days which are about their mother.

Fluffalumpper · 27/09/2025 09:23

@lurchersforever you’ve inserted your own narrative there. DP does work but earns considerably less than me. I pay ~80% of everything but don’t expect to pay for my own presents. If that means I get less the that’s by the by, I don’t make a fuss of my birthday, but what I do get (such as a quick drink at the pub after a stressful week at work) I expect my very much of an age to understand kids not to shit on.

OP posts:
the7Vabo · 27/09/2025 09:21

Coffeeishot · 27/09/2025 09:06

I think you need to start doing more "you" things , and when they start there nonsense before you are ready to leave, honestly ignore them, just get ready and stand at the door waiting on them, you might need to pre empt the nonsense and add extra time . They are doing it for a reaction.

The bit that stuck me I saying “your whole life” is around them. It shouldn’t be. Start putting some of that energy into enriching your own life.

Children of 8 & 10 can be looked after by a local teenager.

Next celebration go it for dinner with your DH.

And they should be told firmly at the start of someone’s else’s birthday etc that taking anything away from that day isn’t acceptable

Coffeeishot · 27/09/2025 09:20

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 27/09/2025 09:17

Completely agree. At this age children should be able to understand that not everything is about them.

If children think everything is for their entertainment then they will act out if things are not for their entertainment.

Dannydevitoiloveyourart · 27/09/2025 09:19

GagMeWithASpoon · 27/09/2025 09:01

Putting clothes on to leave the house WITHOUT a big argument and screaming and shouting is now perfect behaviour?

OP said they don’t behave like this all the time.

Children are allowed to have an off day, while still learning how to regulate those emotions. I’m not sure how we would expect children to behave perfectly at that age without sometimes getting it wrong. The consequences should therefore be proportionate to the act, with the aim of helping them get those emotions back in control/ understanding how to better regulate themselves next time.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 27/09/2025 09:17

Coffeeishot · 27/09/2025 09:06

I think you need to start doing more "you" things , and when they start there nonsense before you are ready to leave, honestly ignore them, just get ready and stand at the door waiting on them, you might need to pre empt the nonsense and add extra time . They are doing it for a reaction.

Completely agree. At this age children should be able to understand that not everything is about them.

user15643 · 27/09/2025 09:13

hi OP, belated happy birthday. I totally get it.
problem is we expect kids to behave in a way and put us first on special days but sadly, their brains are not fully wired to do it all the time. there will be meltdowns and bickering and sometimes, it is just their hormones taking over.
as you said, they are usually well behaved so you will have to have a loving talk with them when things are calm and move on. sorry but even though you feel resentful at times, it is ok for things to be messy. please give yourself and them a break.
you are trying your best to raise good little people - it is what matters really.

Howwilliknow122 · 27/09/2025 09:07

FiatLuxAdAstra · 26/09/2025 21:56

I seconded a later post as well as saying “ instead of defusing” and other bits that are constructive advice in my post. It’s not my fault you can’t see them.

I am not going to cheer on what is so obviously terrible parenting that is only going to push kids off the rails by the time they are 13,

I am not going to cheer on what is so obviously terrible parenting that is only going to push kids off the rails by the time they are 13,

Parenting that will push the kids off the rails?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes loving parents who give them time outs and space to calm down instesd of going out for drinks when they've behaved so badly is really what's pushing them off the 'rails'. Stop being silly lol.

lurchersforever · 27/09/2025 09:06

I think it's really sad that some people equate good parenting with harsh punishments that don't work anyway. Then they congratulate themselves on it. I agree with @Dannydevitoiloveyourart and also think it's a weird dynamic with the partner about being the breadwinner. OP said it wouldn't be fair to put financial pressure on him for her birthday, but if he doesn't work outside the home then surely all the money OP brings in is family money and is to be used for all birthdays/treats etc of all members of the family? This is the same for all families where only one person does paid employment. That's how it worked for me before I got divorced and I was the breadwinner. Ex had no access to other money so obviously used our joint account for presents. We set budgets and it was more about the time and effort spent by him as strictly speaking I was paying, but obviously him being home was saving us money in other ways, though we split long before my dc were 8 and 10 - does your partner bring in anything, OP?

I also think all the stuff in the OP about spending time on the thinking of activities that will 'enrich' the kids, planning holidays, planning and paying for birthdays very odd. That is just basic parenting and what pretty much everyone does. Under the heading of 'children ruined my birthday,' it's odd and wrong. Children should be able to take for granted that parents want them to be happy and sort holidays and birthdays for them, ffs. Yes, throughout their childhood they should be increasingly empathetic and appreciative, but expecting them to never act out as kids and shutting them in their rooms all evening if they do, leaving you to be resentful about what you do for them is wrong.

And I don't have low standards or awful kids. Mine are 16 and 18 and (mainly!) lovely and hardworking. They forgot to get me anything for mother's day this year (first time it's happened) but came up with their own solution of cooking for me and watching a film of my choice, for example. One thing I have never done is allowed a row to go on overnight. I didn't do sending to rooms really, but once everything had calmed down I don't know why you wouldn't talk to them/have a hug and bit of a debrief and try and salvage the evening.

Coffeeishot · 27/09/2025 09:06

Fluffalumpper · 26/09/2025 20:59

@Whereismyfleeceblanket i agree, I think it’s a mix of it not being about them and them just not having any consideration for me.

I think you need to start doing more "you" things , and when they start there nonsense before you are ready to leave, honestly ignore them, just get ready and stand at the door waiting on them, you might need to pre empt the nonsense and add extra time . They are doing it for a reaction.

Dannydevitoiloveyourart · 27/09/2025 09:02

Fluffalumpper · 27/09/2025 08:51

Honestly, that sounds very transactional to me. They’re nice so they can earn something? I want my kids to be nice because they’re nice people.

They’re “nice” most of the time because they’re expected to be (politeness, explaining themselves calmly, speaking positively, doing basic chores). Making me a cup of tea and croissant on a random Saturday morning is going above and beyond at their age in our household. And mirrors life- when we do more than than the expected it can mean a promotion at work, going up a set at school etc.

When they’re older, cooking for the family will become an expectation and will no longer be going above and beyond. It may sound transactional but works for us.

GagMeWithASpoon · 27/09/2025 09:01

Givemethereins · 27/09/2025 08:38

Parenting small people is not about tolerating or not tolerating behavior. They aren't adults yet for God's sake.its your job to teach them how to communicate better with each other. How to deal with big emotions. Maybe the 10 yr old is hitting pre teen hormones. But this whole " my only job has a parent is shut them in their room and punish them"'' is doing nothing but building resentment. And not parenting.
When this women's entire happiness is based on the dynamics between siblings and if they are behaving perfectly or not. Then yes thats far too big a burden on them. And the giant elephant in the room is the partner who needs to take some load off the op so she's not so burnt out. Shes in burn out and so won't be able to parent in a meaningful way

Putting clothes on to leave the house WITHOUT a big argument and screaming and shouting is now perfect behaviour?

Personperson · 27/09/2025 09:00

Givemethereins · 27/09/2025 08:38

Parenting small people is not about tolerating or not tolerating behavior. They aren't adults yet for God's sake.its your job to teach them how to communicate better with each other. How to deal with big emotions. Maybe the 10 yr old is hitting pre teen hormones. But this whole " my only job has a parent is shut them in their room and punish them"'' is doing nothing but building resentment. And not parenting.
When this women's entire happiness is based on the dynamics between siblings and if they are behaving perfectly or not. Then yes thats far too big a burden on them. And the giant elephant in the room is the partner who needs to take some load off the op so she's not so burnt out. Shes in burn out and so won't be able to parent in a meaningful way

My god you sound like a wet wipe.

BusyMum47 · 27/09/2025 08:59

Lucy5678 · 26/09/2025 21:02

Why have you had no dinner and gone to bed? The kids are out of order (and by sounds of it spoilt) but you don’t need to make everything worse for yourself by not eating anything.

Exactly! ⬆️ Ignore their wailing, get a takeaway, open a bottle & bollock them tomorrow. 🤷‍♀️

GagMeWithASpoon · 27/09/2025 08:58

Lotsofsnacks · 27/09/2025 08:51

When I first started reading the op I thought you were going to say your kids were late teens and had forgot to buy you a present. 8 and 10 yo kids can be brats at the best of times, their brains are still v selfish and like all the attention on them, you think they are aware they have ruined your bday? No. Won’t have a clue. You should have just gone out as planned, sat them at the other side of the table, and ignored them, and got your Dp to buy you a big glass of wine and something lovely to eat. And then dealt with punishing your kids the day after. Get your dp to take you all out today instead and have a lovely belated birthday

That kind of behaviour is unacceptable any day tbh.

Personperson · 27/09/2025 08:56

Lavender14 · 27/09/2025 07:55

It absolutely sucks that this happened on your birthday, however I do think this is par for the course with kids of that age - it will happen from time to time especially as you've one moving into puberty with all the changes and hormones that brings.

I actually think the reaction to cancel everything and send both to their rooms with only a break for dinner and then expect them to go to bed for the night was a bit harsh and I think it's possibly escalated things as opposed to defusing it and trying to focus on helping them build empathy. To my mind your dh should have been stepping in there, taking it off you completely and giving them a reality check that they needed to set it aside for your benefit and then continued with your plans as they were and had a different consequence. By punishing them in this way you've essentially punished everyone and also given them control over events. It seems strong especially if this is not normal behaviour for them and they are usually good, well behaved kids as you say. Punishment isn't enough at this age, they do still need help to self regulate and empathise even though in a basic way they know its not good behaviour.

I think your dh needs to step up and get them to now plan how they are going to make it right for you and you do a redo of your birthday.

There's no reason why you both couldn't have ordered a takeaway and watched a movie or something nice like that when the kids were in bed rather than taking yourself off to bed before 9 and deciding they'd categorically ruined your birthday.

This is why children behave the way they do now. They got consequences because of how they behaved.

Do you think the op should have gone there there?

How is being sent to your room harsh? Jesus are you one of these gentle parenters?

It is a lesson to be learned. How do you expect children to turn into reasonable and not selfish adults, if they aren't taught that life isn't all about them and sometimes that means the attention will be on others. And that is a good thing to teach.

The op said that one of them threw a glass ffs. Hundred percent warranted a punishment. That escalation needed time out.

They have learned bad behaviour isn't rewarded. It's not like she's done anything abusive. This is actual parenting and I commend the op for not being some wishy washy there there parent.

Op deserves to have her day and her children have hopefully realised that their actions weren't on. They should be apologising to their mum with the help of the dad.

Out of curiosity, how do you treat your children when they misbehave? How would you have reacted if one had thrown a glass?

Fluffalumpper · 27/09/2025 08:53

@Lotsofsnacks both are very aware of what they did. The youngest is currently making an apology card without prompting from DP.

OP posts:
Lotsofsnacks · 27/09/2025 08:51

When I first started reading the op I thought you were going to say your kids were late teens and had forgot to buy you a present. 8 and 10 yo kids can be brats at the best of times, their brains are still v selfish and like all the attention on them, you think they are aware they have ruined your bday? No. Won’t have a clue. You should have just gone out as planned, sat them at the other side of the table, and ignored them, and got your Dp to buy you a big glass of wine and something lovely to eat. And then dealt with punishing your kids the day after. Get your dp to take you all out today instead and have a lovely belated birthday

Fluffalumpper · 27/09/2025 08:51

Dannydevitoiloveyourart · 27/09/2025 08:42

No I have very naturally defiant kids- and had to adjust my methods for this. I also realised that traditional punishments resulted in me punishing myself without changing their behaviour.

The point of “punishment” is to change the unwanted behaviour- OPs methods didn’t do that. It’s a Friday night, the kids were tired and had arguments. As it happens, my similarly aged children had a fight with each other last night before we left the house for our evening plans. So they lost 10 minutes of their 1 hour game time privileges today (but know know they always have a chance to earn it back by going above and beyond), which sorted the arguments and made sure they behaved well while we were out to avoid further punishment.

As it happens, my 9 year old has brought me a cup of tea and croissant in bed this morning - because they’re trying to earn back the lost 10 minutes of game time for today 😂 I’m over punishing for punishments sake. I only impose consequences that actually improve their behaviour, while also teaching them values that are important to me. So no, we don’t cancel events. Yet my children don’t have 2 hour tantrums. To be fair, they lose privileges for slamming the door too hard/ stomping up the stairs so they wouldn’t dream of screaming and throwing things around the room.

Honestly, that sounds very transactional to me. They’re nice so they can earn something? I want my kids to be nice because they’re nice people.

OP posts:
EdithBond · 27/09/2025 08:49

Happy Birthday! You should certainly celebrate. Did you DP not help the kids make you cards and give them a few pounds each to choose you a little gift to wrap?

You sound burned out and under-appreciated, as all parents do at times.

I hope you all have a lovely day today. I wouldn’t cancel the planned day out, as it’ll prolong the punishment. Better to allow them to start afresh and be positive and happy today.

I know you don’t want parenting advice, but IME kids that age do have squabbles and you need to chivvy them along with firmness and humour, rather than big tellings off, cancelling happy family time they may have looked forward to and prolonged negativity and punishments.

With kids, it’s a storm in a teacup and it’s best not to dwell in the negative but instead move back to love, fun and happiness. Then, if necessary chat it through when they’re calmer.

CrispieCake · 27/09/2025 08:45

Fluffalumpper · 27/09/2025 07:42

Just to clear up this narrative of upsetting their routine, we weren’t going for a meal, it was one drink at 5.30 which they were both told about beforehand. Both were keen. We’ve done it before.

No, I didn’t plan days in advance, I plan every bloody event in this house and don’t feel I should have to for my birthday. Yeah, maybe DP should have put more effort in and planned something nice beforehand but that’s what I’m dealing with. But the girls are old enough and intelligent enough to handle one drink in the pub without this being a deeply disturbing even. This isn’t the first time we’ve done it on a Friday and it’s usually very last minute without WW3 breaking out.

Your children aren't 7 and 10 months old. Unless there's some massive drip feed about additional needs, they ought to be able to cope with going out for a bit on a Friday night! I think some people are confusing them with toddlers.

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