Page 5 | The council should be taking down England flags in public places?

fourfoxsakes · 2025-09-26T11:45:41+00:00

I have driven through a couple of areas in the last few days where England flags are being displayed on public lamp posts, it makes me feel very uncomfortable and unwelcome in the area and I think gosh I’m glad I don’t live here, but why are the council not taking them down?

Dogsandhens · 28/09/2025 15:41

cygnusgenie · 28/09/2025 15:39

It is crystal clear that it is exclusionary and racist in intent

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If it had a swastika on it I'd get what you mean? Or if you put up.a load of Palestinian flags round Golders Green? But English flags in England are perfectly appropriate.

cygnusgenie · 28/09/2025 15:39

FanFckingTastic · 26/09/2025 12:57

I don't think that it's clear at all. Why can't people display the flag of the country they are in? As a pp said, you would expect to see a Welsh flag in Wales, or the Saltire in Scotland.

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It is crystal clear that it is exclusionary and racist in intent

Love4both · 28/09/2025 15:35

If you do not like our flag go and live where you like the flag

MyLimeGuide · 28/09/2025 15:35

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 15:18

You are right, the lamp post ones around where I live are more quarter mast.

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😂 what does quarter mast represent?

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2025 15:21

Duplicate post.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2025 15:20

Dogsandhens · 28/09/2025 14:52

I don't understand what "catch yerself on" means". But no matter.

A defence to defamation is that your comment was justified so if you can back up the comment that he is "paedophile loving" with evidence then your comment was reasonable.

I'm no defender of TR. I don't know why he's the centre of the immigration debate because I dont think hes a positive infleunce at all. But I'd like it in this debate if for once people just stick to the facts.

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I dont know why hes at the centre of the immigration debate either. As soon as the UK voted for Brexit TR rushed out to get himself an Irish passport and fucked off to live in Spain.🙈

I can only assume that he targets the vulnerable and the gullible so he can grift off them.🤷‍♀️ That drug habit, his fancy holidays and villa in Spain dont pay for themselves you know.

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 15:18

MyLimeGuide · 28/09/2025 15:11

You are really annoyed about this half mast issue aren't you! Isn't it just that they have all slipped down maybe?!

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You are right, the lamp post ones around where I live are more quarter mast.

MyLimeGuide · 28/09/2025 15:11

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 09:20

So nothing like the ones half mast on lampposts and road signs then

Nobody has epressed any problems with what you are describing.

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You are really annoyed about this half mast issue aren't you! Isn't it just that they have all slipped down maybe?!

Dogsandhens · 28/09/2025 14:52

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2025 14:43

He is violent.
He stalks women who speak against him.
He's friends with paedophiles and campaigns to help them escape justice by jeopardising the trials of paedophiles.
He is a criminal.
He is a racist.
He takes drugs.
He lives in Spain.

I am a law-abiding, tax paying UK citizen. Unlike TR. Breaking the law with my opinion? Catch yerself on.🤣🤣🤣

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I don't understand what "catch yerself on" means". But no matter.

A defence to defamation is that your comment was justified so if you can back up the comment that he is "paedophile loving" with evidence then your comment was reasonable.

I'm no defender of TR. I don't know why he's the centre of the immigration debate because I dont think hes a positive infleunce at all. But I'd like it in this debate if for once people just stick to the facts.

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 14:48

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TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2025 14:43

Dogsandhens · 28/09/2025 14:27

Probably a bit of defamation there. He's not a great guy obviously but there's no point.breaking the law telling everyone your opinion.

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He is violent.
He stalks women who speak against him.
He's friends with paedophiles and campaigns to help them escape justice by jeopardising the trials of paedophiles.
He is a criminal.
He is a racist.
He takes drugs.
He lives in Spain.

I am a law-abiding, tax paying UK citizen. Unlike TR. Breaking the law with my opinion? Catch yerself on.🤣🤣🤣

Dogsandhens · 28/09/2025 14:27

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2025 13:07

The defence on here for the violent, woman hating, paedophile loving, criminal, racist Tommy, takes cocaine and lives in Spain, Robinson is mad.🤯

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Probably a bit of defamation there. He's not a great guy obviously but there's no point.breaking the law telling everyone your opinion.

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2025 13:59

MsJinks · 28/09/2025 13:06

Ah well that’s helpful then to the NHS. They’re also getting more customers for the NHS too by pushing folk off ladders - true and uplifting support!
So are they being patriotic and showing support for the NHS by backing Farage too? Is privatising it US style what is actually wanted?
If Farage isn’t right enough and you follow Tommy then Musk would also get it privatised if he forced Advance in somehow, as I have never heard an actual policy from Tommy, or Advance yet, I will take the educated guess on the policies Musk would insist upon.

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See you're making assumptions about the politics which is unwise imo. Obviously Farage has his fans but the flags and indeed marches represent a much broader spectrum than some people acknowledge.

There's a town fairly close to me diehard Labour for decades and there are flags everywhere.

MasterBeth · 28/09/2025 13:27

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2025 13:07

The defence on here for the violent, woman hating, paedophile loving, criminal, racist Tommy, takes cocaine and lives in Spain, Robinson is mad.🤯

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He has convictions for street fighting, football violence, threatening behaviour, drug dealing, stalking, several counts of fraud and contempt of court. He is what any reasonable person would consider scum.

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 13:12

MasterBeth · 28/09/2025 13:03

But we're told on this thread that the flags are a celebration of women's rugby or an expression of national pride, not a political statement about the cost of living.

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Maybe they mean the upside down Union flags?

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/09/2025 13:07

MasterBeth · 28/09/2025 08:39

Tommy Robinson is a racist street thug - FACT. Even the likes of Farage sees him as beyond the pale.

Your defence of the racist street thug shows you in your true colours.

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The defence on here for the violent, woman hating, paedophile loving, criminal, racist Tommy, takes cocaine and lives in Spain, Robinson is mad.🤯

MsJinks · 28/09/2025 13:06

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2025 12:45

I'd imagine its a statement of support/patriotism for some people when they perceive well loved institutions such as the NHS are under threat due to poor management by successive governments. A means of demonstrating their frustration perhaps.

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Ah well that’s helpful then to the NHS. They’re also getting more customers for the NHS too by pushing folk off ladders - true and uplifting support!
So are they being patriotic and showing support for the NHS by backing Farage too? Is privatising it US style what is actually wanted?
If Farage isn’t right enough and you follow Tommy then Musk would also get it privatised if he forced Advance in somehow, as I have never heard an actual policy from Tommy, or Advance yet, I will take the educated guess on the policies Musk would insist upon.

MasterBeth · 28/09/2025 13:03

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2025 12:45

I'd imagine its a statement of support/patriotism for some people when they perceive well loved institutions such as the NHS are under threat due to poor management by successive governments. A means of demonstrating their frustration perhaps.

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But we're told on this thread that the flags are a celebration of women's rugby or an expression of national pride, not a political statement about the cost of living.

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 12:53

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Raise_the_Colours

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2025 12:45

MasterBeth · 28/09/2025 12:33

How is protesting against the degredation of public services served by putting up an England flag?

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I'd imagine its a statement of support/patriotism for some people when they perceive well loved institutions such as the NHS are under threat due to poor management by successive governments. A means of demonstrating their frustration perhaps.

MasterBeth · 28/09/2025 12:33

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2025 10:05

The poster I replied to was. Hence my response.

A lot of it also has to do with a general unrest/dissatisfaction within the Government/cost of living/public services etc..

And bugger all to do with racism for lots of people. There are people of all colours and nationalities behind the flags.

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How is protesting against the degredation of public services served by putting up an England flag?

MasterBeth · 28/09/2025 12:30

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 09:21

Do you think name calling bothers me? It doesn't in the slightest. It also doesn't bother the people who are putting up flags or the thousands of people who took part in the recent march. Try another tactic because screaming racist doesnt work anymore. Flags will continue to rise and people will continue speaking the truth. People care about data, facts and the truth. If you haven't got any of those, then your opinion doesn't matter.

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No, I don't think it'll make a difference to you. It's very clear what you are.

But I think most patriotic English people see Tommy Robinson for what he is. A street thug. A bully. A racist. A grifter.

He's a Blackshirt. An Oswald Mosely fascist. He's what out grandfathers were fighting in WW2.

Dogsandhens · 28/09/2025 12:14

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 09:34

Resorting to name calling because you lose and argument. How sad, lol.

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I've reported her posts for hate speech so hopefully they get taken down. Some people are displaying huge bigotry, calling people racists, so hopefully MN will delete them.

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2025 10:05

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 09:49

Nobody is assuming that though

It's about those flimsy half mast flags tied to lampposts and roadsigns that have suddenly popped up everywhere, what do you think they are 'celebrating'?

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The poster I replied to was. Hence my response.

A lot of it also has to do with a general unrest/dissatisfaction within the Government/cost of living/public services etc..

And bugger all to do with racism for lots of people. There are people of all colours and nationalities behind the flags.

bemoresloth · 28/09/2025 09:49

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/09/2025 09:44

Well that was precisely my point to the earlier poster. Its ridiculous to assume all flags are about white supremacy.

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Nobody is assuming that though

It's about those flimsy half mast flags tied to lampposts and roadsigns that have suddenly popped up everywhere, what do you think they are 'celebrating'?