To think most men are filthy losers

You aren't bursting my bubble. I erase my search history at work. Just own it, some women have had bad experiences with men and can not believe that other women have attracted good men.

You haven't caught us out or got one over us.

Easy 😂 All you have to do is say "I think men are/do ..." followed by anything less than uncritically admiring, and you will be swamped by frothing & fuming replies:

• Pretending you said "all men"
• Diagnosing various deep character flaws in you
• Trying (and failing) to turn it back on "all women"
• Refuting any evidence that you may have a point
• Denying that men make obnoxious generalisations about women
• Accusing you of bigotry 🙄

More rules of misogyny:

8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.
10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.
11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men.
12. Women’s ability to recognize male behaviour patterns is misandry.

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but there are ways to automatically erase the search history. My ex used Google in Incognito mode to hide his vile porn searches. Only a moron even stupider than him would do that in the regular browser mode where you could find it. So because you found nothing doesn't mean there's nothing to find.
Stats show almost all men use porn or have used porn at some point, so that means so-called "good" men do/have in the past as well.
What my moronic pornsick ex didn't know (even though he works in tech😆) was that sometimes the cache makes a record of sites used in Incognito mode.
Anyway, the point is to not take it for granted that you have a good man. I thought I did too. He was using sick porn the whole 30+ years and cheating for at least five of them that I know of. Maybe some of you do have a genuinely good one, and if so, I'm happy for you.

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but there are ways to automatically erase the search history. My ex used Google in Incognito mode to hide his vile porn searches. Only a moron even stupider than him would do that in the regular browser mode where you could find it. So because you found nothing doesn't mean there's nothing to find.
Stats show almost all men use porn or have used porn at some point, so that means so-called "good" men do/have in the past as well.
What my moronic pornsick ex didn't know (even though he works in tech😆) was that sometimes the cache makes a record of sites used in Incognito mode.
Anyway, the point is to not take it for granted that you have a good man. I thought I did too. He was using sick porn the whole 30+ years and cheating for at least five of them that I know of. Maybe some of you do have a genuinely good one, and if so, I'm happy for you.

I could not disagree with this more.

Sadly, because of how men work, if you are objectively 'less attractive' than the OP, you will receive far less smut.

Telling the OP that she needs therapy because of how men interact with her is victim blaming deluxe.

Seriously, OP, you should consider therapy. At the very least to learn how to be assertive not passive.

You can't control other people, but you can control how you react and who you mix with.

The experiences you talk about here (if some are true- I don't believe the one about your neighbour saying he heard you masturbating) are not the norm.

I mean, truly, what kind of 'relationship' do you have with a neighbour that makes them think they can say that? Or send comments about pussies (not sure if you mean cats, literally, or not.)

Mine just talk about the weather, pot holes and which bin goes out today!

Either you're living in some parallel universe or there is something else going on which makes men think you're ok with those kind of behaviour.

You rant away here but in real life you clearly don't give out the same signals or men wouldn't behave like this with you.

Mines just shown me his. It contains searches on motorbikes, campervan pitch ups and the weather.

Bloody weirdos these good men 😂

I’ve just looked at DH’s. Disused railway stations, land rovers, English manual for a car satnav, DIY fuel injection, aeroplanes, building materials, Greek food recipes…

What? Lol. My grandfather was a true gentleman and wonderful person as were my lovely uncles. No other man has ever lived up to them. They have all been filthy losers.I don't think they make men like that any more.

Mines just shown me his. It contains searches on motorbikes, campervan pitch ups and the weather.

When people profess to have good men in their lives, I always think that you haven’t seen their Internet search history.

When people profess to have good men in their lives, I always think that you haven’t seen their Internet search history.

When people profess to have good men in their lives, I always think that you haven’t seen their Internet search history.

I'm partly playing devil's advocate to show you the inconsistencies in your argument, but I also probably have a different view to you, therefore (by definition) probably different moral values. Ergo, my assertion that moral values are entirely subjective and therefore to some extent pointless.

I don't doubt that the morals you espouse are sincerely held, just as much as any others' morals. I merely point out that they are yours alone (whether in common with others, or not).

So, to your assertion:
Come on. Can't you see the difference between a woman raising a child alone as a result of consensual sex, or 2 men having consensual sex, and a man being turned on by underage teens or incest?

1. Single mothers - you agree that the child's life is sub-optimal compared to a life with two loving parents. So, there is evidently, actual harm there. That harm could absolutely have been avoided by her not getting pregnant, or terminating the pregnancy. So, is there a moral argument that she's done something she shouldn't have?
2. Gay men - on these pages men are considered predatory, and sex obsessed. Indeed, this very thread is about that. Many of my gay (male) friends admit to being very promiscuous and rather lazy with precautions when they were younger. These things resulted in actual harm, such as AIDS, to others Is there not a moral argument that says all these things are bad?
3. Men viewing images. Squicky for sure. But if they're not paying for the images, and they're not doing anything with real people, and the participants in the images never know they've been viewed - then where is the actual harm to anyone (except themselves). And if there is no actual harm, then the moral judgement you're intent on applying is purely a "I don't like it" reaction. It's ok to have that reaction but is it any more moral than the first two cases from, say, the perspective of a religious person?

I just want you to see that your moral certitudes are purely a personal view. They are not justified by some logical reasoning such as actual harm.
And therefore your morals are no more, and no less, valid than anybody else's.

And that's why I say it's a circular argument to assert that someone's behaviour is wrong because it is immoral, when your morality is merely a selection of what you perceive to be right or wrong.

I'm a single mother. Things are tight financially sometimes. But, you know what? There's never any agro. Never. We're just happy. We just love each other. And I refuse to believe she'll be any worse off for it. Full-on, up-for-each-other-all-the-time-love. X

When people profess to have good men in their lives, I always think that you haven’t seen their Internet search history.

@ThatWasJustANoise 🤗

Yes I have good men in my life, my son, husband, father, uncles, late grandfather, my daughters partner. These men are truly lovely, however I and many many women and girls I know have had awful things done to them from men and boys. I would say that most of my female friends from all walks of life have all been the subject of abuse in one form or another by men.

A direct quote from Laura Bates book 'Men who hate women' pages 181 to 182

"Men hurt women. It is a fact. It is an epidemic. It is a public health catastrophe. It is normal."

"Over a third of all women worldwide have experienced physical and/or sexual violence (not including sexual harassment) at some point in their lives. One hundred and thirty-seven women across the world are killed by a member of their own family every day."

"We cannot discuss violent misogynistic extremism and male supremacy without contextualising it in a world in which violence against women is at stratospheric levels. The manosphere is both a symptom of that inequality and a furious backlash against attempts to reduce it."

"Everything we have seen so far from the rhetoric of incels, PUAs and MRAs suggests that the primary goal of these reactionary groups, like much of the alt-right and other online supremacist groups, is to regress to an idealised state of white, heteronormative male control and power. They want to see women subjugated as vassals, objects to be used primarily for men’s sexual pleasure and reproduction: pliant, obedient and servile. The end – achieving this extreme, patriarchal utopia – is considered infinitely more important than the means, which may include everything from trickery to harassment to assault to mass violence."

If it doesn't make 'you' angry, then 'you' have a problem with seeing the truth.