To think most men are filthy losers

Wow, you have issues.

Nope. I said there may be more to find in some cases, not that there definitely is more, and I said this was a general statement of fact, not about any individual man. Do you not understand that a general statement of fact doesn't mean it's true about everyone? You really don't know statistics work, that they reflect general trends, not individual truths?

Posing a strawman is arguing a point the other person didn't make, which is exactly what you are doing. You're just resentful that it was called out, so now you're being hostile to @OutsideLookingOut. You seem to have a hostility problem with other women.

Jealous? You sound like a Real Housewife. Women who are competitive with other women like to fling that accusation around without cause. It's based on a projection. It sounds like you assume other women are competitive about men because you are. I'm happy for other women who have good men and I have no interest in having a man, good or otherwise, so I'm not in the ring fighting it out for the small supply of good men as you apparently imagine I am. You could throw your allegedly good man on top of me with a dozen roses in his hand and a giant erection in his pants with the full assurance that I would be unimpressed. Now, let's have enough of this nonsense and go about our business, because this has become tiresome.

@Maltipoo You do sound a bit dogmatic! I've had some terrible DPs and as far as I know all the man I've been with have watched porn, but not one of them has made me do anything degrading based on porn preferences, nor were they obsessed with porn. The sexual urge can be very strong in (especially younger) men, but it doens't turn them all into monsters. It's like saying all women would kill for an ice cream. I mean I love ice cream, but it doesn't drive my life.

Bollocks, I know my Husband loves me.

I have a DS and I have spoke to him when it was appropriate that if he saw porn then that was not how sex should be.

So get off your high horse thinking I dont understand the problem with porn.

To tell women that they don't know their Husbands when they have a healthy relationship with them is out of order.

I think your DH left you for an affair partner. It doesn't mean all men don't love their wives.

Indeed. Thank you.
When people get defensive and go on the attack because of it, it says they fear something.

You are clearly wrong in your assumptions and completely off base, but why let that stop you. You're free to post whatever self-serving nonsense comes into your head and I'm free to ignore it. Have fun with it.

That is actually a good point about young men. It is higher when they are younger, but people don't change completely just because of age, so it would be expected to be a smaller majority up until the point where men lose most if their interest in sex in old age, when it would be expected to be a minority. So my point stands. Odds are high that any individual man is using it or at least has at some point.
Why are you so determined to deny that reality?
It's probably not at all reassuring for young women to know that their porn obsessed partners may be less obsessed when they are older. Don't their concerns count? They're being coerced into doing things men see in porn. I can offer stats on that too, and UK ones at that. They are shocking and revolting, so you might not want to know.

But back to the core issue. How's this for facts;

Three-quarters of British men (76%) say they have ever watched porn, compared to around half of women (53%). Around a third of men (36%) say they watch pornography at least once a week, including 13% who watch porn every day or most days, while just 4% of women say they watch porn at least once a week.

https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/42945-how-often-do-britons-watch-porn

I wouldn't have posted about it if the Danish study was the only data I had. It's just the most well known study.
Remember also that these studies are based on self reporting, meaning it's almost certain that some percentage of men are ashamed and are therefore are not admitting the truth about their porn use, so we can almost certainly count on the percentage being higher. Self reporting based studies about embarassing subjects which require shameful admissions are all limited by this.

The poster was saying that no matter that we see our partners search history that they are probably hiding another search history. I know my DH better than anyone. I know what he likes regarding sex. We have a good sex life and do what we are comfortable with.

Also, is STRAWMAN the new word after MISOGYNY. Some of you just repeat the same words over and over again like you think you are so clever.

Yes, I know some men are dangerous. I'm not thick. To preach to women that we don't know our Husbands is disrespectful and can come across as jealous that we have picked a good one.

Why are you creating strawmen arguments about this poster? Giving a statistic or generalizing about the behaviour of men does not mean an individual hates all men. Loving the men in your life does not undo or allow us to ignore the systematic oppression of women through the ages and in multiple countries even now about the globe.

You don't have to find it, you just have to believe it. If you believe it then any attempt on his part to deny it can be bypassed. In order for it to be true for you it doesn't need to have happened it merely needs to be believed.

I hope in a land or galaxy or universe, be it near or far-far away, there is a man or men sincerely defending women on whatever chosen method of communication they use.

Well you clearly haven't got any men in your life that you like.

Hmmmm… it does unfortunately have to be pointed out that serious car crashes are more likely to have been caused by a man also, the nutter kicking in the door is most likely male and so is the terrorist, so in most of these cases these men who are “saving” women are having to do so because of situations caused by men! The fire is the only likely exception. And there are many excellent female firefighters. Sadly many women are deterred from working in the fire service by the misogynistic culture…

Perhaps they are no different, but you don’t know that. What you are presenting as fact is mere supposition.

And you are still glossing over the fact that the study sample was young Danish men, not all Danish men.

I don't know how you got that idea. The answer is an unqualified no. I'm saying some women have been brainwashed by porn into doing men's bidding sexually, allowing painful and degrading acts. They do so because of a pick me mentality resulting from internalized misogyny. They are trying to get men to choose them and stay with them by being sexually compliant. It's nothing to do with enjoying men's company.

That is a well known study, so I cited it. I could cite more studies which show it being lower, but they still show a large majority. Why do you care about the country the research was done in?

I'm not answering personal questions from people who falsely accuse me of any kind of bigotry. Be civil and rational if you want that kind of information.

Why would Danish men be so different from other men? It's a left leaning society which supports women's rights. If anything, men there should be expected to be less sexist than men in more conservative societies, not more.

That was 98% of young Danish men.

A very specific sample. Not 98% of the world’s male population.

Are you accusing women who enjoy men's company of internal misogyny and are pick me girls? You must really hate men. Why have you used Denmark as an example?

Can I ask if you have any Sons?

Denmark is a disturbing country though in some ways. They used to have really lax CSAM laws, for one. Was the study only of Danish men?

There may be nothing to find, but a Danish study found 98% of men use porn, so the probability for any individual man is extremely high. Other studies have had it lower, but still a large majority. Sadly, a smaller majority of women use it as well, which explains "pick me" culture and internalized misogyny as an extension of the rape culture which porn is instrumental in. It has led to women engaging in anal sex, choking, and other acts popularized by porn, just to insure a man chooses them and sticks around. It's so depressing.

What is vile is subjective, and anyone who doesn't think, for example, that underage and other rape porn (or any porn involving violence) is vile is not a person I want anything to do with. I would consider such a man a ticking time bomb for domestic abuse and/or sexual assault.

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but there are ways to automatically erase the search history. My ex used Google in Incognito mode to hide his vile porn searches. Only a moron even stupider than him would do that in the regular browser mode where you could find it. So because you found nothing doesn't mean there's nothing to find.

Conversely, it doesn’t mean there is anything to find.

What constitutes vile porn is also subjective. To some, any porn is vile. Others may have a much higher threshold.

I was not saying anyone is stupid for trusting. Without trust, there is no relationship, so of course you must trust him. I'm glad you have a good relationship.
I was just warning women who may not be aware of the tricks some men use to hide who they really are that looking at the history on the regular browser is not going to prove anything. There was no need to take that personally.
When I spoke of putting one's head in the sand, it was about women not facing the fact that most men are sexist/misogynist. It was not about any particular man, yours or anyone else's.

I dont stick my head in the sand. My first ever boyfriend was awful. I have met my best friend and married him. We have been each others rock in the last 20 something years. He makes me laugh, is loving, let me be a SAHM for the first 3 years of our child's life, earns more than me but we share the money but I do have a good job, has never been abusive and the person I turn to when I'm stressed. We also have a good sex life. I'm not being defensive. He's a good person. I can't be bothered to argue that I'm stupid for trusting him.

I'm glad you do. It doesn't change the reality that most men are indeed sexist/misogynist. This isn't personal about your particular husbands, sons or whoever, it's about a general trend. In general, men do not genuinely respect women as equals. It's a fact proven over and over by research.