To think most men are filthy losers

Well, it's not an 'article' in the newspaper sense but I'm not sure what you mean by 'a paper written by someone who believes' - sounds like Agent Mulder lol.

It's an undergraduate research paper published by the Grand Valley State University and it links all the sources, some of which are from the WHO. Generally, you can't just make up a load of cobblers for an academic paper.

That said, I didn't read it properly myself tbh because every single study I've read has said the same thing - it's always the mother. I've admittedly only read studies from the UK/US but I can't imagine it being much different in the rest of the world as generally most countries are even more patriarchal than us so it's even more likely that women will be the primary carers.

There was another thread where somebody linked gov data from the US broken down into mother/father/mother + stepdad/etc. Over five consecutive years it was the mother that committed the most abuse every time.

Have reported this thread. It’s vile I am a woman if you’re interested

YANBU!
Happy to be married (for 20 years) to a very decent man who never behaved like this.
They are very rare.
And my husband is three decades older (yes, almost thirty years).

I think you need counselling and possibly HRT.
I've never encountered men like the ones you describe. There's good and bad in both sexes. Maybe start a thread about controlling women to even things out.

Currently I'm avoiding a friends husband
He's worked out where I go on different days at different times ,and he turns up regularly,and comes and sits next to me ..day after day after day ,he's there ..in 4 different places ..I'm busy switching the days and times ..
At first I thought I was imagining it ,but then friends noticed, I was with at the time .
Definitely not a coincidence, because I can't get away from him ,without being rude ...so now I'm on alert all the time scanning for him..ugh
He even turned up at a hobby I do and was joining in ..
I did bump in to him with his wife in a supermarket and what a surprise he tried to ignore me and pretend he hadn't seen me,such a contrast to following me round the shop..
Any way ,I said to my friend.".hello ,I've not seen you in ages ..but everywhere I go I seem to see (his name ..her husband)..we constantly bump in to each other don't we .."
I've not seen him since, hopefully she got the message

"No men allowed" apart from tradesmen any time something needed to be built or fixed. Lasted for a few years until she sold it to some bloke.

Why don't you try resurrect it, since you hate men so much?! 😂

My experiences
Age 11 ..looking like I was 11 with pigtales and wearing school uniform on the bus home from primary school alone ...a man sits next to me , trapping me by the window and proceeded to get his penis out to wank..I was utterly terrified and missed my stop because I couldn't get past him.
Age 6 my mother moved us in with her new boyfriend,who they both thought it appropriate for him to walk around naked and put me to bed naked
Age 10 I had to walk the family dog and down a canel a man out jogging says hello as he joggs past ,at the last minute I noticed he has his penis out as he runs ..I ran in the opposite direction
Age 14 walking to school ,a man is wanking in a bush ..this time I report it to the school ,and I'm driven round in a police car to see we can spot him.
Each of these times I was a child ,looking like a child ..no makeup,no trying to make myself look older ..sick that a child is what clearly did it for these men
I've never worn makeup in my life ,never dressed sexily,..never wanted their attention

For those posters who don't agree with OP, I am of the opinion a fair few are men.

You might be a good guy, I don't deny that there are some.

But when your male friend, sibling, relative acts inappropriately towards a woman, do you call them out on it? Because if you are just turning a blind eye, then you too are part of the problem.

Three things spring to mind.

Dr Omar Minwalla - The secret sexual basement.

Giselle Pelicot.

Rape Gangs in the U.K.

No it won’t be all men but after the Rape Gangs, where relatives were involved in such hideous crimes. How does a family or friend progress from saying cousin/brother/best friend/employer pass me the salt at dinner to lets gang rape a child tonight. So many men involved in so many areas of the U.K. Did some men decline to join in? Did they report it?

Pelicot - finding so many local men prepared to do that. Did other men find out? Did they report it?

Then reading Minwalla.

There are clearly men hiding their behaviour from their spouses.

The link to minwallas work.

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I don’t hate men. I wouldn’t want to be one. I think their lives can feel much harder to them because they can’t get what they constantly crave.

Imagine feeling horny and frustrated and like a loser all the time. Seeking status. Competing. Needing a woman and wanting children and being incapable of managing it.
So I am sort of agreeing but think it’s not helpful to just hate them and try and avoid them. They are our people - our sons.

I am very interested in how human societies have evolved to manage men’s needs and feel very fortunate to live in a place and an age where I have rights and protections. The battle to keep those rights is constant though.

I have daughters and a son, (young adults) and my lovely daughters seem to have already given up on the idea of taking on a man. Son is a good man and has already been snapped up!

There are so few good ones. Less than there were when women didn’t have rights? Because men can’t cope with that?

If you start googling filthy stuff that's what you will get and why are you googling your ex??I have a son who am raising to be a decent individual and I don't agree with you

Quite honestly I'd like to have a partner but nearly all men disgust me. They are so selfish and sex obsessed.
I've been married three times and they all took the piss constantly. The violent husband, the liar and cheater and the stupid, selfish sex pest one.
It looks like I'll be spending my retirement alone. Im a member of a lot of groups and have many hobbies and all the men I meet are substandard, the women are lovely.

OMG, a 'granny'.

It's a massive worry if you have young children particularly boys how to prevent them getting into it. I remember when my son was just 11 another child was showing other kids porn on his phone in the playground. So I started warning him from a young age it would affect his relationship & performance with women, brain pathways & all that. He's now an adult & has since thanked me knowing how many of his peers are addicted.

I think OP was talking about mass, maturation.

It doesn't sound great.

Some women (with low libido, on online dating sites looking for a man), find men (on dating sites) to be disgusting.

That's a small base and a particularly nasty social media application to extrapolate from.

I do find it curious that women more recently expect special treatment or dispensation for the hormone related times of their lives, but are reluctant to accept that men are driven by hormones as well.

The (possibly reasonable) argument that we should be able to override our hormones because we're not animals is legitimate, but not when applied to only one group of people.

Personally I find this kind of thread as depressing and bigoted as those of the 1960/70's about Blacks and Asians.

I've read enough on MN to see the disconnect in thinking about sex in marriage.

• Strand A is husbands feeling they have a right to sex (they don't) and women quite content not to have sex with their husband
• Strand B is husbands that have cheated and how vile they are.

And now I see this OP upset at men masturbating (not something I want to watch btw).

Perhaps men just want to be wanted sexually. Is that so bad?

I hear you. I dated a guy from work on and off for a couple of years (largely off). He is a massive porn user, and I reckon he just lives his life immersed in porn. All his moves are so porn linked! He isn’t a bad person, he has his kids 100% and does a lot for them, but he is definitely obsessed with porn. He could he one of those men on the websites you came across! Anyway i’ve ended it for good with him, good sex yes (but again, the porn moves gave me the ick). I’m just reverting back to celibacy for a year as i’m relocating soon and then I might start to try and find a good one. But probably won’t bother!

Yes totally agree with all you say op
I'm with my DH for the family ,I'd never split it up ,but would I still be with him ,or any man if I wasn't trying to give my kids a family ..like fuck I would ..would I be with him ,if I'd never had kids ,like fuck I would .
I even took him back after an affair..for the family ..some of the things I've done against myself,to hold the family together makes me feel sick ..and I worry I will end up bitter and resentful and full of anger .
I absolutely hate living with a man ..I absolutely hate sharing a bed with one

Lol.

Single middle-aged women with an axe to grind.

It would be laughable if it wasn't true.

Another thing that incels and misogynists would say about women and we’d be angry but apparently it’s fine to say this about men - that they look horrific and fat etc

It would be considered misogyny if a bloke started banging on about how 'horrific' women look after 50. It doesn't surprise me that this thread is full of single middle aged women with an axe to grind!

Surely not hard to guess why you might get negative reactions from men if this is how you view them. The contempt will be absolutely dripping from you.

There is a reason why we in SA have a 16 Days of Activism awareness campaign in November every year.

'To end violence against women'

It is so bad that that a campaign needed to be started.
Need I say anymore?

I totally agree with you OP, and you just have to look at the responses from women agreeing with you. As I will bet my bottom dollar every one of these female posters have also personally been affected.

And it is not just me at a ripe age looking back at years and years of being subject to this. My 20 year old daughter just yesterday received a comment about what she was wearing. No she was not walking around bearing all, she was wearing a long hoodie which came to just above her knees with DM boots. Shorts under the hoodie. This came from a man of around 55-60 years of age.

Who the fuck do they think they are.

That's not an article.

It's a paper written by someone who believes.

Oh it absolutely is, I used to have links to studies showing exactly this, the dopamine hit gets less and less and the porn sites are set up to deliberately pull you into degenerate shit. I did an experiment about a year ago and typed in something like "women with big breasts enjoying normal sex" on one of the major porn sites, and the first two were sort of showing that but third thumbnail down had a granny with a young man in a shower, below that it just got worse and worse. Even if you wanted to find standard normal sex you were steered towards gross shit within about five thumbnails down.

It's deliberate.

I haven’t read it but I’ve read similar things before. But do bear in mind that women do most childcare so it’s not surprising that they are the ones physically chastising children.

Ok

I'm going to read the article