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To think most men are filthy losers

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fightbackorriseabove · 07/09/2025 18:05

I'm going through the menopause, so have a low libido at the moment, which might explain my disgust. I don't know. I didn't use to be a prude, but I'm feeling more and more annoyed these days by men and their general behaviour.

I have a few male friends who, to varying degrees, always manage to slip in an innuendo or even an outright sexual remark. And out of politeness, or not wanting to cause a scene, I smile or roll my eyes in jest. I can only think of one occasion when I told a bloke to stop, and he REALLY took the hump. This was a married man who pursued me, but then said he was just joking and that I took myself too seriously. In fact, he got very angry.

I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

Well, the filth I found was disturbing. Men, thousands of them, masturbating online. I can only think they're doing it in front of each other. Becsuse there can't be many women wanting to sit and watch them. Surely? My ex was one of them.

I'm not talking about Only Fans where people pay. I'm talking about sex webcam stuff where men seem to just be filming themselves wanking. And watching each other. I don't even think it's gay. These are heterosexual men doing it for free. All ages.

Maybe I'm naïve.

But it's been a real eye opener for me.

I always knew men watched porn. But sitting there filming themselves and watching each other. It's madness.

I really do think that we, as women, spend our time worrying, working, caring, thinking, planning... and men just do the stuff thry have to do and then go back to messing with themselves or pestering women. Including their wives. And they keep having to up the limit because they can't get excited uness it's something really vile.

How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.

It's not a human right, is it? They need to calm the fuck down.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and grumpy, but I just think most of them ming.

OP posts:
Petitchat · 03/11/2025 05:13

Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:28

@TrishM80 · 07/09/2025 22:01
Why don't you just form a women's only island, OP?

We had a massive fight to try to keep men out of women’s sport. Men feel entitled to our spaces - if we had a women’s only island the men would be donning offensive wigs and makeup and demanding they be allowed entry.

Yeah. Funny but sadly true...

Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:28

The13thFairy · 01/11/2025 11:14

Well, the men would want in, wouldn't they? And they'd be shits about it.

@TrishM80 · 07/09/2025 22:01
Why don't you just form a women's only island, OP?

We had a massive fight to try to keep men out of women’s sport. Men feel entitled to our spaces - if we had a women’s only island the men would be donning offensive wigs and makeup and demanding they be allowed entry.

ThatJadeMaker · 03/11/2025 00:55

Negroany · 07/09/2025 23:17

Hmm....almost like men aren't an oppressed group, isn't it?

Well they are on here aren't they. On a male forum if there were threads saying women should be sterilised ( comparing parallels with the men should be castrated comment from one poster) and most are vile, it would be called out for misogyny yet men are fair game on here. The excuses are just a tirade of nonsense about incels etc but what it amounts to are bitter enraged feminists who think all men are bastards bar the DH, DS and all the other dears who happen to be male.

The OP is quite amusing though who masquerades as a well educated intellectual yet seems to have chosen perverted degenerates as partners. Talk about delusions of grandeur - probably angry at her own shit life choices. It's not surprising male suicides particularly young males are through the roof with the toxic threads like this. This forum may cater predominantly for women but it's supposedly a parents forum yet gets away with abuse off the scale for a human being based purely on what chromosomes they have. As others have said, replace male with anything else and it would be deemed bigotry but these vile threads thrive on here.

Robogob · 02/11/2025 19:01

I am in a fudge of cognitive dissonance. I’m in my early 50s and I haven’t had a boyfriend or sex since 2017. I absolutely loathe being around men. Even without all the perverts and rapists and nonces, I just cannot bear the constant thrumming of their loudness, the laughing at their own basic level jokes, the posturing. BUT I have a 16 year old son who I love fiercely with all that is in me.

How do I hold all this at once? Why do I hold all this at once? I don’t really know how to answer it.

JHound · 02/11/2025 18:39

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 02/11/2025 18:37

@JHound life is too short for this back and forth. I don't think I blamed women for a man's choice to be a terrible person. I have pointed out that women do most child rearing . These are not the same.

I won't reply to your next post. I get little satisfaction from arguing with random internet dudes. Feel free to say what you will. Once again, I do not hold with the OP's claim.

That is blaming women for a man’s choice to be a terrible person. Children have two parents that model behaviour - mothers AND fathers. But as adults who they are is a choice to make. Blaming mothers for how they rear them is tired misogyny.

And I’m not a man.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 02/11/2025 18:37

@JHound life is too short for this back and forth. I don't think I blamed women for a man's choice to be a terrible person. I have pointed out that women do most child rearing . These are not the same.

I won't reply to your next post. I get little satisfaction from arguing with random internet dudes. Feel free to say what you will. Once again, I do not hold with the OP's claim.

JHound · 02/11/2025 18:32

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 02/11/2025 18:29

@JHound you may call it drudge work. Others call it the rearing of children, including boys. But if women are carrying out shitty parenting and the men should be intervening, then naturally women should be intervening with men's shitty parenting. This is really just trying to shift responsibility but as I have said, I don't hold with the OP's claim in any case..

Yes an attempt to “shift the blame” by the person who tried to blame women (in this case mothers) for a man’s choice to be a terrible person.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 02/11/2025 18:29

@JHound you may call it drudge work. Others call it the rearing of children, including boys. But if women are carrying out shitty parenting and the men should be intervening, then naturally women should be intervening with men's shitty parenting. This is really just trying to shift responsibility but as I have said, I don't hold with the OP's claim in any case..

swimlyn · 02/11/2025 18:22

The modelling of behaviours is coming from the internet. Truly the devil’s work…

JHound · 02/11/2025 18:19

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 02/11/2025 17:49

@JHound I wasn't saying I thought most men were raised in single parent families, but that women still do most of the child rearing. I believe that's true. Mothers do more in terms of raising children in general than men do.

If anyone is involved in shaping future men we need to consider the role that we mothers play. I'm not attributing blame to women because I don't hold with the OP's claim.

Women do most of the drudge work. It’s not correct to say women do most of the modelling of behaviours. And if they are then fathers are even more to blame for how their sons turn out by not intervening with their wife’s shitty parenting.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 02/11/2025 17:49

@JHound I wasn't saying I thought most men were raised in single parent families, but that women still do most of the child rearing. I believe that's true. Mothers do more in terms of raising children in general than men do.

If anyone is involved in shaping future men we need to consider the role that we mothers play. I'm not attributing blame to women because I don't hold with the OP's claim.

Gowlett · 02/11/2025 17:30

I was just thinking this today, if women were in charge, everything would just get done. No drama. World peace, the lot… Men could just sit in a room, happy. And wanking, it seems.

JHound · 02/11/2025 17:25

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 01/11/2025 12:44

If most men are filthy losers they've all been born to women and mostly have been raised by women. I don't know how women can believe their fellow women are all producing filthy losers. I know the men in my life aren't filthy losers.

It's the same as men on another forum saying women are all bone-idle, lazy schmucks. Silly generalisation.

I don’t think most men are from single parent families. They are equally raised by their fathers too.

Petitchat · 02/11/2025 17:21

AInightingale · 02/11/2025 14:58

If I was a young woman today, I would look at the numbers of men demanding to engage in all kinds of sexual practices that were once unthinkable or considered borderline abusive, I would look at the stats for hardcore porn use, at the numbers of seemingly nice respectable men caught with child rape images, and I'd probably think 'swerve', too. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible for individuals to live alone and independently now due to housing costs, or I'd imagine there would be a lot more single and separated women.

Absolutely right.
I fear young women are becoming trapped again as I was in the 70's.

AInightingale · 02/11/2025 14:58

If I was a young woman today, I would look at the numbers of men demanding to engage in all kinds of sexual practices that were once unthinkable or considered borderline abusive, I would look at the stats for hardcore porn use, at the numbers of seemingly nice respectable men caught with child rape images, and I'd probably think 'swerve', too. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible for individuals to live alone and independently now due to housing costs, or I'd imagine there would be a lot more single and separated women.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 02/11/2025 14:11

The13thFairy · 02/11/2025 13:50

I don't hate men, but I want little to do with them. I don't trust them, I fear them sometimes. Generally speaking, I don't like them very much. I am happier when they aren't around. There are scads of women like me. And how do we demonstrate this distaste? We swerve them. We remove ourselves from their presence when we can. We get on with our lives. But plenty of men hate women, actually loathe us. And how do they demonstrate this? They rape us, assault us, stalk us, murder us, skinwalk us. Let's suppose there are women who actually have the energy to hate men. I really don't think anyone would notice!

This. Absolutely this.

I am sure my mil thought she was raising a decent man. She didn’t. I don’t blame her. He is just an utter cunt of a person.

I swerve men too. But I am now in my fifties and they are all interested in women 20 years my junior so it’s easy to avoid them. All the best to them all.

But I bet more and more women just wise up to men and younger and younger women too.

The13thFairy · 02/11/2025 13:50

florizel13 · 08/09/2025 12:10

It's deeply insulting to all those of us with sons, who we're raising to be decent men. And also to the genuine male posters on here. I'm someone who will always call out misogyny when I see it on social media and I agree there are horrendous incel types there, but posts like this make me almost see why some men hate women so much.

I don't hate men, but I want little to do with them. I don't trust them, I fear them sometimes. Generally speaking, I don't like them very much. I am happier when they aren't around. There are scads of women like me. And how do we demonstrate this distaste? We swerve them. We remove ourselves from their presence when we can. We get on with our lives. But plenty of men hate women, actually loathe us. And how do they demonstrate this? They rape us, assault us, stalk us, murder us, skinwalk us. Let's suppose there are women who actually have the energy to hate men. I really don't think anyone would notice!

ForNoisyCat · 02/11/2025 11:08

gannett · 23/09/2025 13:04

I often wonder about a world in which women openly expressing sexual desire weren't subject to social shame (at best) and physical danger from men (at worst), but instead encouraged and slapped on the back for it. And where men were routinely shamed for their sexual desire from adolescence onward, and then placed in potential physical danger for it as adults.

I've never been convinced that the male sex drive is all that alien to the female one. Men simply tend to have been encouraged to show it off and to be entitled to it.

In my experience women will open up about all sorts of "filthy" sexual desires (I say that in a positive way) if they feel they're in a safe space to do so. And on the flipside I've known men who've had weird religious upbringings that seem to have shamed all the sexuality out of them, in a way I recognise as more common in women.

I also think the very vocal MN demographic of women who clearly dislike and disapprove of sex and sexual desire generally is a very peculiar minority. It's striking that these threads about sex never really touch on what women DO want - just what they don't want.

Before reliable birth control -the pill - women had to be so careful as you can’t hide a pregnancy for king. Men in the other hand could remain anonymous and unfettered by the burden of out of marriage baby. Women had a stronger need to suppress their desires. It has always been loaded against us imo

Crazyworldmum · 02/11/2025 10:46

The13thFairy · 01/11/2025 11:06

Oh, you know many that aren't. But how well do you know them? You could be married to a man like Dominique Pelicot - when would you find out? Would you find out? And he found all those men to rape his wife just in one small town. They walk among us. They always did, but we didn't know. We know now, and we can't go back to when we didn't.

I think lots of men are not like you claim they are . Do you truly believe ALL men are that way ? Because I’m married to a wonderful man ,, by no means perfect but by no means anywhere near what people describe here .

fightbackorriseabove · 02/11/2025 10:25

The13thFairy · 02/11/2025 10:17

Decades ago, I was aware of a section in porn magazines called Readers' Wives. It never so much as crossed my mind that these women might not have given permission for their pictures - which included their smiling faces - to be shared.

Have people noticed how awful men can be commenting about women online, as well? Feeling the need to say when they find someone unattractive? Women are naming and shaming them now.

OP posts:
The13thFairy · 02/11/2025 10:17

Decades ago, I was aware of a section in porn magazines called Readers' Wives. It never so much as crossed my mind that these women might not have given permission for their pictures - which included their smiling faces - to be shared.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 01/11/2025 12:59

@MaryMungoMidgley who does menial drudge work to raise their children? That's pretty condescending to mothers everywhere. I know that's not how I raised my son..

And you have no evidence about the cause of bad men being predominantly anything. I'm sure the presence of other bad men won't help but even this is too simplistic. It can't be summed up as predominantly anything.

MaryMungoMidgley · 01/11/2025 12:53

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 01/11/2025 12:44

If most men are filthy losers they've all been born to women and mostly have been raised by women. I don't know how women can believe their fellow women are all producing filthy losers. I know the men in my life aren't filthy losers.

It's the same as men on another forum saying women are all bone-idle, lazy schmucks. Silly generalisation.

Raised by women in the sense that the women did the menial unpaid drudge work to look after them, but they don't model themselves on the women they look up to and take notice of the men in their lives.
The cause of bad men is predominantly bad fathers, i.e other bad men.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 01/11/2025 12:44

If most men are filthy losers they've all been born to women and mostly have been raised by women. I don't know how women can believe their fellow women are all producing filthy losers. I know the men in my life aren't filthy losers.

It's the same as men on another forum saying women are all bone-idle, lazy schmucks. Silly generalisation.

The13thFairy · 01/11/2025 11:14

TrishM80 · 07/09/2025 22:01

Why don't you just form a women's only island, OP?

Well, the men would want in, wouldn't they? And they'd be shits about it.

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