Mini pride....Is it going too far?

Nothing wrong with pride. I am sad that people would think there was in 2025.

As always, it is open to everyone. Allies are welcome.

You do realise gay people have kids right? And may wish to take their children to family friendly events?

You'll find a lot of people don't want to voice those views but will vote them

It often comes up about things like representation in adverts, films etc. Very few people will come out and own the view or hold it up to scrutiny (mostly imo because they know it doesn't hold much water)

Which to be honest is representative of my experiences of homophobia. Most people aren't vocally disagreeing or heckling us on the streets but hold quiet beliefs and aren't quite willing to meet half way and have a low tolerance. You'll find there's a lot of attitude of "what more could they want?"

I can think of 2 recent examples where the vote has shown this. One was about the ridiculousness of an abroad resort being advertised as lgbt friendly, the comments were initially full of how ridiculous. Multiple people with experience came on to say actually it can be quite important as international travel can be a mine field for same sex families, the country Its in is particularly known for being difficult (despite being an eu country) etc. A few posters stuck out to argue it but mostly people just stopped commenting but continued to vote that it was silly to have that on the website

Equally the votes are always like that about representation in films. That its too much. Most people can't actually substantiate it or explain it but vote with their gut

There was even some damming votes about if it was okay to have same sex couples on strictly.

Its the same on immigration threads. People don't own the views, or want them fact checked.

That sounds brilliant and I'd fully support these pride events if that's what they were, but they aren't, they're all about the T which as I said, is actually homophobic.

My (gay and married) DB takes his son to an LGB families camp every summer. My DBIL works in an industry that bans summer leave, so he doesn't get to go with them.

As much as anything else, it's an opportunity for the parents to share their experiences with other LGB parents and for the kids to meet other kids with similar family set ups in a non-judgemental group.

It's not all rainbow flags and terribly camp dancing, it's forest school, cook outs, silent discos and more.

Homophobia is very much a thing of the present Gender ideology is the new form of it.
Imagine saying that men can be lesbians and women can be gay men and being called progressive for it, and even celebrated by your local historic house.
I wouldn't touch it especially with kids.

Leave. Them. Alone. FFS.

It’s for families.

Great post. Wish more people were as sensible.

Are you ok?

Little kids come with parents though

I know same sex couples who haven't been part of school social circles, who's kids friends haven't been allowed to sleep over etc.

The reality is we aren't in a space where two men could hold hands on a park bench without a visceral sense of threat while watching their kids play in the same way a hetro couple can.

We've moved on from the 90s but not so much where it's a complete non issue. Look at the comments above about fads, people going too far, or indoctrination

There's a headline literally today about a lesbian teacher who killed herself over homophobic bullying by teachers at the school.

Films are still being publicly complained and campaigned about for even referencing the idea that a child might have two mums. Look at the backlash against lightyear, where a character going to space literally just referenced her wife, in a catalogue of disney films of married couples, hundreds of kisses, and depictions of hetro families. Even ignoring the outright boycotts, campaigns , mumsnet is full of people complaining that a single depiction is too much, diversity for the sake of diversity, ramming it down people's throats or unnecessary

I had a friend at school in the 90s, both of whose parents were gay, and I think something like this might possibly have meant something to her, as her situation was still odd enough to raise eyebrows back then.

I don't think it's at all necessary for little kids, who generally either want to marry their dad or their dog, and don't need to be taught to accept. They just do.

We've gone to events like this.
Its nice for our kids to spend some time with other families that look like ours and see different family make ups.

Our kids spend 99% of their time surrounded by hetro families so it's a good balance out, that they aren't the only ones with our set up.

Equally my adopted nephew has gone to days out geared towards families made that way.

If you spend your life as a minority it's helpful to see others in your position. In many areas a kid with two dads will still stick out like a sore thumb, and the dads would be hesitant of say walking around holding hands.

Its just nice to have a day where it's the norm

People like to pretend that homophobia it's a thing of the past but it very much isn't. There's still a long way to go (as above that people assuming that it's a fade, or that high profile queer presence could only be to indoctrinate children) Its a part of considerations for us on most days in small ways

I'm afraid I have to agree with this. The truth isn't very palatable, but I do think this nails it.

A lot of people were homophobic twats 25 years ago and think they can atone for it by constantly going on about how gay people are the best thing ever nowadays.

Some people just like trends. It used to be it was cool to be anti-gay. Now it's cool to be pro-gay. So the people who want to be cool do the cool thing.

This.

You seriously believe that’s the policy of a local historic house? Don’t be daft.

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When the stigma associated with same sex families disappears, there will be no need for these events. Until then, good for them. Everyone deserves a support group and a place where they can be themselves without judgement.

A lot of these events now seem to be for more of an adult audience shall we say, bondage, pup play (grown men wearing very little and a full head leather dog mask being 'walked' on a lead), oversexualised drag queens, basically a lot of fetishes and kinks played out in public.

As it's a historic house though one would hope there would be less whips and chains and more just a family friendly day. As long as they aren't going around selling kids the idea you can change your sex (because you can't!), and no kink stuff, then there isn't really an issue.