Katie Price and the rift with her kids?

Can we stop this nonsense of calling men "creeps" who date very much adult women (which a 20yr old Is) he was a good looking older man- you can see why she found him attractive. He's caused her no obvious harm has he ? They're long term married with 3 children of their own. She's a doctor - hardly some vulnerable waif and stray.

And whilst we're at it : her father was a surgeon. Peter was going in for some kind of orthopedic surgery. Surgeons daughter (Emily ) had a crush on him and asked her father to introduce them. Which he happily did. The rest is history.

Don't make innocent men out to be perverts where they are not. It minimises vulnerable teens etc that are groomed for nefarious reasons by much older men.

I hope this girl gets off to university, well done to her friends for supporting her.

It can be both.

Narcissistic behaviours can develop or increase

Victims can create their own victims

I feel like there was a big big change in her during/after her PA marraige

I think it's wishful thinking to believe there must be an innocent answer that makes her the victim.

Personally I still think she's a narcissist.

I remember when P and J were young PA used to say a lot on interviews and things how doing Cypriot style BBQs with the kids was his thing, like it was their version of Sunday roast kinda thing, and he was talking about at one point doing a kids book I think about BBQing at home...
Really painting this picture of dad who did cook outs a lot, the kids these days would call it "making core memories"

Then a wee while later he was filmed attempting to use the BBQ equipment at one of his houses and it was very clear that he NEVER cooked, he was getting increasingly angry and agitated as his rellies and staff hovered about trying to help him to appear to know what he was doing. Giving the cameras toothy grins and trying to be jokey about it but everyone was obviously on eggshells. And the last shot was them all obediently at least pretending to eat badly undercooked on the inside charred on the outside meat with no sides.

I think he pulled back from the FT cameras NOT so much to give his kids more privacy, but because his mask sometimes slipped and he wasn't always in control of that

She cheated on him with her dressage instructor, got pregnant, tried to claim it was Peters but they hadnt had sex in weeks and then had an abortion.

Also I remember Peter constantly saying no one knows the real reason we broke up too it’ll come out one day.. it was something along them lines I can’t remember how he worded it now but it made u think wow what did she do?? To portray her as the scumbag but without publicly saying what the actual meaning was.
He got famous because of her but wanted to continue that fame, play the victim, make the public dislike her n side with him n leave her in the gutter. Vile man.

Also I remember Peter constantly saying no one knows the real reason we broke up too it’ll come out one day.. it was something along them lines I can’t remember how he worded it now but it made u think wow what did she do?? To portray her as the scumbag but without publicly saying what the actual meaning was.
He got famous because of her but wanted to continue that fame, play the victim, make the public dislike her n side with him n leave her in the gutter. Vile man.

I actually really like Katie.
You can tell she’s been through a massive amount of trauma and hasn’t healed from it which has spiralled into other areas of her life.
Im a mother of a SEN daughter who has extreme meltdowns and violent outbursts and I can imagine how hard it was for her as Harvey grew bigger and stronger especially as she had younger children around her.

Peter Andre was definitely a narcissist I remember watching that show n he was rude af and did the silent treatment on her loads! Even at the time I remember thinking he’s not all he seems!
I’ve been in an emotionally abusive relationship and KP was likely in defence/reactive mode to his emotional putdowns/withholding affection and manipulation til it wore her down.

i saw Peter performing at a club in Ibiza years ago n afterwards fans tried to greet him n he just looked at everyone like they were shit and wouldn’t acknowledge anyone.

Emily seems nice but she seems massively under his control.

My opinion is KP has unresolved trauma which has let to C-PTSD .
She wasn’t able to cope with her children, no excuses there but she was probably living in survival mode just trying to get through day to day n numb her pain.
Constantly trying to better herself by having more surgery through not feeling good enough in past relationships.

Hopefully she’ll heal one day.

Why? What did he do that was nasty? I am puzzled.

Jesus, that man has done well out of one song (and marriage) 🙄
It must be hard for the kids because their parents are not only famous, but a laughing stock as well.

KP seems to be the kind of person who thinks any attention (positive or negative) is better than none. She seems a very messed up person and I do think it's going to end badly for her.

Oddly enough I've just been watching the KP/PA clips on til tok. He is utterly vile but very sneaky with it. He had another programme after and there was a few times the mask slipped in that too. Totally played the role of the victim and got all the good publicity from the split. Likes to play father of the year. No-one loves their kids more then PA does.

I haven't seen the clips of the two kids but it seems like they are decent people. Thank god they haven't taken after their parents.

But KP is an adult, with a lot of resources available to her, B&J are young children.

He's a creep who not only dated a 20 year old student as a middle aged man, but knocked her up ASAP too (yes I know they say they were "just friends" for the first 2 years .. as if that isn't even creepier!

Look at princess, Emily was only TWO YEARS older than that when nearly 40year old PA pursued her, the perfect little anti-katie!

KP pre and post PA : seems like a totally different person! That might not be his FAULT exclusively but he has embraced using her bad publicity to make himself look the "good guy" because that's pretty much been his brand ever since, hasn't it? The "good guy" who endured her.

KP may have become, or been made into a monster, but that doesn't make PA "the good one"

@Snorlaxo I’m incredulous that you think being on OF is a career

But that's consistant not inconsistent with someone who has suffered a lot of SA

The brain attached the wrong names /faces/times/details sometimes because of disassociations that happened during real abuse. But the abuse did happen just not necessarily as described. And the false and changable memories feel realer than the actual real event (perhaps beause the real abusers were closer to home than their brain could cope with etc)

I think something broke in her sometimes during the PA era.

Prior to that she was more of a Gemma Collins character: she had a public persona that was performative but she was in control of it

Yes she's a bad and unfit mother since then I'm not excusing that

But her "lies" and chaos are consistent with a victim. That doesn't mean that people aren't in turn now victims OF her

But someone or several people broke her IMO

That’s horrendous 😔
So the dad is unfit also? Hope his mum is able to look after them, those poor poor kids 😢 does K see them?

Kieran's mother has them, the press weren't allowed to report but the court records were online. It took a long time before they were removed and it was sad to see B's live youtube stream at age 9? on Christmas eve around midnight trying to make herself packet noodles because she was hungry and no grown ups were conscious. P didn't mention her half-siblings from Katie in her show but she did seem to be close to her mum from what she said.

So who has the poor kids? 😔

kp is a mess-she belittled pete thats why he snapped back-why is it funny to say he has a tiny penis and no money on camera
she constantly drove without a license then got caught when she crashed her car on drugs-still no jail

multiple banckruptcies but foes on holiday every month and comes back with more surgery done

killed nnumerous pets-still gets more

loses custody of her children

pimps her disabled son out for money in nightclubs

lots of people have been abused but dont do what she has done

I just watched some of it and its slightly bizarre the way that P talks about how her mum is in a really good place now, I also don't think her mge are marketing her in the same way that other instagram/influencers are at the younger age group but how is her makeup brand going to take off.

I agree. I watched every episode and he just seemed to get increasingly exasperated with her capriciousness and petulance. Quite understandably.

He was the one who looked like his whole world had collapsed when they split. And he adores his children and family - he’s been consistent in that.

She doesn’t look like she even has any feelings for anyone. Even with Harvey she’s constantly getting the poor lad to kiss her and tell her he loves her. It’s all about her.

You've only got to look at the poor Beckham boys for that. All 3 absolutely struggle to show they're good or even capable of much. I think the parents even employed a private tutor at home who later went on to say she suspected all 3 probably had a learning difficulty of some sort. All the money and resources in the world couldn't take them away from their roots (who they would have been if their parents hadn't of gotten famous)😐

Exactly. Money talks 💰

I know someone whose daughter was at school with her. She was a mean girl and decent at sports. There are plenty of private schools that cater for the rich but thick.