Katie Price and the rift with her kids?

Where do you get this allegation from?

Why has KH not got custody of Jet and Bunny?

I didn’t say that was what had actually happened.

I think we’ll have to agree to disagree.

You’re really clutching at straws now. Putting holes in condoms?

I think you e been watching too much TV.

If a man doesn’t want to have a child then he should use a condom, and he could always provide these himself to make sure that all the crazy women don’t put holes in them.

If you’re man enough to make a child then you should be man enough to be a part of its life.

He could have yes. We don’t know that he didn’t.

She could have lied and said she was on the pill or stuck holes in condoms. She is scheming enough and was desperate to get a commitment from him.

Equally, they could have been completely reckless, but no-one knows so can’t judge him for not being there.

Ultimately, there is an unfair balance in the decision making when casual relationships result in pregnancy and I don’t agree that a man can’t have a choice when a woman does.

Wow.

You do know that men can use condoms if they don’t want to be fathers.

Or if it’s too much effort to wear a condom a stain from shagging women that they don’t want anything to do with.

That’s quite an allegation to make if you don’t have any proof.

I don’t believe she was raped at 7 - she’s said in interviews that she was flashed. I have been raped and the victim of CSA - people do lie about these things. KP says whatever furthers her agenda at the time.

She wasn’t allowed custody of the kids - so is it any wonder she’s not welcome at her 18th. She also has problems with addiction and alcohol, not an ideal party guest.

I watched an episode of the Princess Diaries. I’m not a huge fan of the content, but think Princess comes across really well. She sounds balanced and sensible. PA might be no angel but he had held down a marriage, supported and brought his kids up which is more than can be said for KP. Clearly KP is not good for Princess’ brand - she is a liability. Given Princess doesn’t live with her and the filming started before she was 18 it’s highly unlikely she’d have had any reason to include KP in filming. It’s clear she isn’t a part of the furniture of Princess’ life.

He did try to see Harvey, but she made it impossible because he wouldn’t be with her. He gave up and walked away - which is shit considering he had enough funds to have forced access to through court if he really wanted to step up.

He has paid a decent chunk of maintenance for Harvey over the years though and made sure it went to her mum as she clearly couldn’t be trusted to not spunk it on holidays and surgery for herself. I hope Amy actually made sure it was spent on Harvey.

I don’t really have a negative opinion about Dwight if he did choose to not be involved. If she’d decided to abort, he wouldn’t have had a say and I don’t think men should be forced to be a parent just on the say so of a woman who they’ve shagged a few times. It certainly doesn’t justify them using a kid to exert control and force the man into a relationship. It’s not an equal decision so I find it hard to judge men too harshly in those situations. He contributed financially, which I think is an acceptable amount of responsibility.

Like he's the only father in the world that would do that....

He’s put his fist through walls, and smashed windows in his violent rages. He’s unpredictable one minute, having massive tantrums the next. No wonder they’re scared of him.

Princess said on her show that Kp was in Dubai, so she wouldn’t be at the party. Why is she always there

It’s horrendous
Was she always like this? What happened

There's also unpredictable behaviour from Harvey.

Even in one of the recent programmes with him in a residential home, they had an aside, just from him staying overnight at her home, where he'd managed to wrench an oak panelled door off both its hinges. They swiftly moved on

There's a whole thread on that for you!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5389304-to-wonder-why-theres-no-media-reportings-that-describe-dwight-yorke-as-the-scumbag-that-he-is?page=5&reply=146390109

Probably the same things Jett and Bunny did : drugs,chaos, failure to prioritise parenting, sex in front of them... I expect a lot of it though was general neglect.

It is alleged these KP had sex whilst young Jett and Bunny were in the same room and showed them her vagina/vulva afterwards.

Nice whatabouttery.

There's been masses of outcry about DY.

But on this thread we're talking about KP and her motherhood.

Or does DY being a shit dad automatically mean that we can't talk about the particular subject of KP and her shoddy motherhood ?

I think he would have had a similar (though smaller) boost to fame just by going into the jungle. Probably still have got offered stuff like small role in Greece or hosting slots on good morning /this morning and as he is pretty inoffensive and probably turns up on time and is polite probably gets more work from that.

I wouldn't have Skeletor on my show, either, so I agree with Princess.

No one mentioned Dwight York yet then? If KP is such a dreadful mother what is he?

I note a press item on how Peter André saved one of his children from being TRAPPED in a TOILET that is being spun to burnish his Nice Guy (TM) Credentials.

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/peter-andre-hero-son-locked-toilet-cyprus-b1243035.html

I remember the good ol' days when positive pointless PR revolved around "Holly Willoughby wears nice dress"

I wonder what Princess and Junior saw/went through 😔

Ah yes I see that they have now split up.

Look, as I’ve said repeatedly. I’m not going to try to excuse KP behaviour. There’s absolutely no doubt that she went completely off the rails. She was always troubled, but she just got worse. I do hope that she could one day sort herself out so to speak. Because I don’t take pleasure in her or anyone’s downfall.

What always baffles me though is why so many people are determined to paint Peter Andre, Kieran Hayler and all the others as saints.

The whole lot of them are just not very good people.

She already tried to find the next one when in ibiza by sleeping with the rapist boxer and Wayne Linekar. As well as dolling out blow jobs to random guys. Just horrific and people say she is a great mother!

Its ex girlfriend now. And she 100% threw a bowl at Bunny and Jett said "look what you have done now" to Bunny. I saw the video.

Maybe he's not a great guy, and the courts have seen that, but he is 100% better than KP has been with those kids. This is the "mother" who got banned from the school for screaming abuse at another mum and calling her a cunt in front of all the kids. This is the "mother" who got so wasted on drink and drugs on christmas day that bunny was on a live YouTube trying to eat dried raw noodles and saying she hadnt had anything to eat all day. It was heart breaking. This was also the "mother" who let her very young daughter start a YouTube channel of her putting on make up with no safeguarding at all for the child. Those kids have seen far too much and will be so damaged by what KP has done to them for the rest of their lives. I am glad the courts have put a ban on them being on or mentioned on social media.