The hatred towards cyclists/horse riders etc

I am saying that emergency services workers should take priority and they can’t always use public transport finishing at 3 am etc.
Tradespeople physically can’t cycle. If they are refitting a kitchen for example they need a van. Both of these categories of people are likely to need equipment that cannot go on a bike. Therefore if bikes take priority how could you get things fixed such as a plumbing problem or get a new boiler? People who need to drive vans to work etc do need to use the roads.

If it is safe to do so then cycling is a good idea. In the town where I live there are cycle tracks that link it to the next city so I think bikes should go on that. It’s what it is designed for. I don’t understand why they would need to go on the roads when there is an alternative. I think it is selfish because they could cycle on the cycle tracks. The cars/ vans can’t go on the cycle track.
I am aware this isn’t the case throughout the UK but it is where I live. In places such as Majorca the roads are safely set up for cyclists with a separate, clearly marked lane and so it’s safe but where I live it really isn’t due to how narrow the roads are in the city centre.

'Luckily, the horse I ride is of epic proportions and most drivers think twice before getting up the arse of a horse his size. He also more likely to kick back in irritation than panic if they did.'

Your horse of epic proportions is likely to kick back if irritated? I mean there you go, says it all.

It's not just for cars either

Because of shit inconsiderate drivers? Yes? Do you know how many riders and horses are killed on the roads due to shit drivers?

FYI many of us do sit our Ride Safe/Road Rider test. Sadly it doesn't protect us from shit drivers

Or you could stop, get off and let the cars past? Who made you guardian of the traffic? Such an entitled attitude!

Ah shame there is no solidarity between 2 vulnerable road user groups

Its been brought up many a time with our council. It wouldn't surprise me if one day if not banning horses from public roads then maybe some basic competency assessment for riders may be introduced.

Surely that would be a good thing, have you ever seen a clearly inexperienced rider try to cajole a scared horse down a street?

Velo cycling is not remotely the same thing.

You’re showing your ignorance now.

@Gloriiado you have any experience of horses at all? I’m guessing not!
How would you propose you get horses used to being on the roads without going on them?
You do realise that horses were quite literally the reason roads exist don’t you?
There is absolutely no reason all road users can’t have safe journeys on the road whatever form of transport they use. All that is asked is a little consideration by all users. And more often than not sadly cyclists don’t consider other road users or indeed their own safety. Horse riders on the other hand are on the whole far more aware of their vulnerability on the roads and act accordingly.

I ride and believe me, we'd love to stick to bridleways but unfortunately they're few and far between and you have to use the roads to get to them.

Luckily, the horse I ride is of epic proportions and most drivers think twice before getting up the arse of a horse his size. He also more likely to kick back in irritation than panic if they did.

Someone who may have passed a driving test 30 years ago has in no way demonstrated they can handle a car today, and a car can cause significantly more damage than a horse or a bike.

So that doesn't really work as an argument either.

There is no intention to change the law so you can stop with the "at the moment"

I've been rising for 40+ years so yes I have.

That's why they are classed as vulnerable road users and it is very clearly stated how you should pass them ie 10mph maximum speed and at least 2m gap of going over the white line to do so.

Most people of average intelligence can understand that.

All those horses, cyclists and pedestrians are massive problem

You do have the right, at the moment. But motorists need to demonstrate some competence before being let loose on public roads imo horse riders should too.
Have you ever seen a horse bolt in a public place? It is quite scary for all involved .

Who's allowed to use a public road, just car drivers?

Exactly, horse riders are the public too!! We have the right.
It is responsibility of drivers, by law, to drive safely and responsibly around vulnerable road users.

Well no but it ensures they have some competence and can handle the vehicle that they're in charge of. Unlike horse riders who can be absolutely inexperienced yet have a huge unpredictable animal jumping about on public roads.

Public roads are for the public, you don't need a car to use them

And drivers aren't?

Because the driving licence ensures that nobody ever breaks the law or causes harm in a car, does it.

Oh.

How is it goady? It is a safety issue.

I think with both horse riders and cyclists some kind of assessment should be needed before they're allowed out on public roads. Never going to happen so all motorists cans do is protect themselves with dash cams.

You are now just being goady!