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The hatred towards cyclists/horse riders etc

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RH1234 · 06/08/2025 17:53

Following on from a conversation on another thread; AIBU to think that the hatred towards all cyclists/other road users I.e. horses is completely atrocious and unjustified.

Lots of people will make comments about “I bet they were in Lycra”, “I dislike road cyclists”, “they don’t even pay road tax”.

My question is not; do you hate cyclists. My question is why do you hate me someone you have not met) as a cyclist?

For perspective:

  1. I pay VED (Road tax doesn’t exist) on 3 vehicles.
  2. I have insurance for my bikes - which includes public liability etc. My cycle insurance is genuinely more expensive than my car, I also have free insurance through British Cycling.
  3. I don’t run red lights (for transparency, I have been through one red light, floor sensors don’t pick up carbon fibre, it was 5am, after waiting a few minutes, with no cars I went through)
  4. I cycle an average of 19-23mph, I can overtake tractors near me, I’m smaller than a tractor surely you can pass me.
  5. I do ride two abreast if in a group, but if passing is difficult, as per the Highway Code we ensure you can pass when safe.
  6. When riding on my own, I wave cars past so they can often go before they can see.
  7. Yes I wear Lycra - but you try cycling 100 miles without decent chamois in place. I won’t mention leg hair as that’s a whole different subject for you.
  8. My wife use to love cycling, but won’t ride on the road now due to the drivers attitudes.

AIBU to be annoyed that I don’t do any of the things people moan about, yet people will hate me, some people will hurl abuse, some people will literally try and drive me off the road (luckily not that often for the last one)

All I want is, to enjoy the sport I’m love, get fit and then spend the time with my family. Yet my wife has said to me, she is anxious when I’m out and follows me on find my iPhone, because she’s terrified someone will one day leave me for dead in a ditch.

Surely a two minute delay is not unreasonable? I don’t judge based on hobbies or backgrounds, why am I judged?

AIBU in thinking that those who state they hate cyclists clearly are either media influenced or just plain horrible people.

Apologies, this has turned into more of a rant than a AIBU, but I’m sure you get the gist.

OP posts:
Pinkissmart · 27/06/2026 18:59

I wish there were more cycle lanes.
But, since you asked…

I work in a small city, which has quite narrow roads leading into the town centre. Only one lane in each direction, and always delays due to lights or roadworks.
Often I’ll be waiting in traffic, and a cyclist will squeeze past on my left.
When traffic gets moving, it’s really difficult to pass them because the road is so narrow and there’s oncoming traffic . There ends up being longer lines of traffic with a cyclist at the front, holding everyone up.

I hate that they can do this. OP, wouldn’t that irritate you?

Sharptonguedwoman · 27/06/2026 18:44

Gloriia · 06/08/2025 18:21

'As for horse riders, it depends what they're doing, but other than going from the stables to a bridleways I'm not sure why you'd want to be on the road. I grew up in a horsey area and we didn't ride on roads'

Yes I don't get this. Where are they going on their horses? Surelt if they've started from stables there are fields and woods nearby to exercise. Horses are massive and easily spooked. I don't want to see them on roads. If I was a horse owner I think I'd realise they don't like loud noises such as cars, buses and lorries etc.

Edited

They can't be airlifted to the bridleway?

Sharptonguedwoman · 27/06/2026 18:40

RH1234 · 09/08/2025 10:24

I live rural, you don’t make any sense.

Not sure what you don't understand. Cyclist slow the traffic on the only available road.

Sharptonguedwoman · 27/06/2026 18:38

RH1234 · 06/08/2025 17:59

So, back to the original question, I am not a hazard. A car is a bigger hazard. So why do i have to come off the roads?

I'll bite. I live in an area beloved by cyclists. 20 mph on winding roads with few passing places is a pain. Cyclists travelling 2 abreast are legal but again, slow the traffic from 40 to 20 mph. We can't get past you, the roads are winding.
Don't wave me on, I know the roads better than visiting cyclists and it's rarely safe.
Cyclists going to work or school, fair enough, out for your Sunday jolly? Don't expect to be popular. Cars stuck behind a peloton of cyclists won't be fans.
Horses? No problem at all.
I'm sure you're lovely in real life.

exhaustDAD · 27/06/2026 17:40

Anyone hating on anyone for something someone else did is just purely moronic, I have zero respect for people who make huge generalisations based on bad experiences with individuals.

I live in an area full of woodlands, farms, narrow roads... Busy, working full-time, juggling school drop-offs and pick-ups with the car, every day. So, do I get annoyed when I see that I will be stuck behind a cyclist for a few minutes? I will definitely sigh, I usually have somewhere to be, but will not switch to reckless mode or start swearing at the cyclist for just existing. He/she would have nothing to do with my trip, just like I don't have anything to do with theirs.
Do I hate cyclists - and you, purely for being one? Of course not. Do I hate the cyclists who are inconsiderate and go side-by-side on these narrow roads so going past them becomes impossible? You bet. I hate inconsiderate people. I am sorry, just like how I don't own the road, neither do they, and knowingly holding people up, while you have the option to make the situation different is just being self-entitled. I could not with good conscience cycle away next to my buddy, chatting about the weather while people behind us are queuing up, when and all it would take is for us to form a single file to let others go...

RH1234 · 09/08/2025 10:24

Eatally · 08/08/2025 23:50

You clearly don’t understand living rurally and having no shop, school, doctors etc in our village. The only way to access any services is to drive. The single road through our village truly is a lifeline to the outside World, much more than to people who can walk to a shop or have multiple routes to choose from.

As for the delay caused by cyclists - I do cope, I have to. Doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated. The OP asked why people might dislike them as a cyclist, and I explained why.

I live rural, you don’t make any sense.

OP posts:
Satisfiedwithanapple · 09/08/2025 09:03

Eatally · 08/08/2025 23:50

You clearly don’t understand living rurally and having no shop, school, doctors etc in our village. The only way to access any services is to drive. The single road through our village truly is a lifeline to the outside World, much more than to people who can walk to a shop or have multiple routes to choose from.

As for the delay caused by cyclists - I do cope, I have to. Doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated. The OP asked why people might dislike them as a cyclist, and I explained why.

Why do you think you’re more important than them because you’re driving?

They find having to think about cars all the time inconvenient. You are just equal road users.

Eatally · 08/08/2025 23:50

MsTamborineMan · 06/08/2025 20:15

Gosh not 12 hrs a year, however will you cope.

If its 2 miles everytime that's just how long the journey takes. The same as traffic. Sometimes there are other road users on the road that make our journeys slower, that's the nature of public services. The road is no more a "lifeline" to you than any other road is.

You clearly don’t understand living rurally and having no shop, school, doctors etc in our village. The only way to access any services is to drive. The single road through our village truly is a lifeline to the outside World, much more than to people who can walk to a shop or have multiple routes to choose from.

As for the delay caused by cyclists - I do cope, I have to. Doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated. The OP asked why people might dislike them as a cyclist, and I explained why.

RH1234 · 08/08/2025 19:58

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 19:47

What utter nonsense

@mintydoggyv
I’m sure will come back with all their made up statistics to suit their agenda….

OP posts:
Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 19:47

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:39

But cyclists cost far more

What utter nonsense

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 19:42

RedPony1 · 08/08/2025 11:13

If you cant tell the difference between a car and a tiny bike, i think you're being the arrogant cyclist you claim not to be...

I'm a vulnerable road user, i wouldn't dream of not going above and beyond to be seen.

If you aren’t looking out for cyclists and pedestrians you are a dangerous driver and shouldn’t be on the road .

Mischance · 08/08/2025 19:31

OakAshRowan · 08/08/2025 09:13

"Cyclists in particular"... Really? So you don't think many drivers also behave dangerously? Even pedestrians can be reckless, crossing roads without looking for example (although they pose much more risk to themselves than anyone else). Lack of consideration is not unique to cyclists.

The "cyclists in particular" in my post referenced the original title of this thread. I have found that horse riders are generally more considerate of other road users than cyclists.

Inconsiderate (not to say crap) drivers are of course two a penny......

Chompingatthebeat · 08/08/2025 15:57

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

Do you have a link to those stats

Chompingatthebeat · 08/08/2025 15:51

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 12:10

"If you really care about making the roads safer, what you do is get people out of cars and onto bikes and public transport etc. You don't get people onto bikes by putting pointless barriers in the way." 😂

I guess you either live in a city or a town where the topography is very flat?

So how many trades people, delivery people, a majority of the work force that need equipment, large families going shopping, tip runs, ect are you going to get on bikes?

Supermarkets deliver, some tradespeople use cargo bikes, car share schemes can be used for trips to tips etc, humans can adapt

Chompingatthebeat · 08/08/2025 15:46

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

The fatalities are mainly due to motor vehicles, shall we not allow women out to lower the rape numbers?

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 15:39

Collflower and cheese

TheSwarm · 08/08/2025 14:55

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

" 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacements"

No they don't. That's patently made-up nonsense.

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:39

RH1234 · 08/08/2025 14:35

You’ve got to be trolling with that response…. Obesity cost the NHS over 6billion in 2019.
obesity also increase risk of knee and hip surgery

But cyclists cost far more

RH1234 · 08/08/2025 14:35

mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

You’ve got to be trolling with that response…. Obesity cost the NHS over 6billion in 2019.
obesity also increase risk of knee and hip surgery

OP posts:
RH1234 · 08/08/2025 14:32

OakAshRowan · 08/08/2025 12:28

You already have explained your points e.g. why you think it's ok to wave cars past, why you don't bother with high vis, how your idea of riding safely is not hitting anyone... I'm not really interested in hearing further explanations. I'm sure no one expects you to be a saint but at least consider some of the points made by other posters instead of rushing to explain them all away.

This whole thread makes me chuckled it’s fine, I’ll aim to cycle on one of my routes in-front of you, single track, no passing points. I can’t stop off road due to grass verges.

So ill ride in the middle of the lane in my high viz for 3 miles, so you can’t pass me, I won’t move to side and wave to say “I know you’ll pass me safely if I’m at the side”

Joke! We will never win with people like you in the world.

OP posts:
mintydoggyv · 08/08/2025 14:30

TheSwarm · 08/08/2025 13:01

No, I just don't think in such an obviously ridiculous literal manner. Obviously, not everyone can give up their cars, but you cannot argue that a lot of people couldn't, and indeed many already have swapped.

The average commute in the uk is 7 miles. That is easily coverable on a bike, and for people doing so in urban areas will likely be quicker than by car. However, it needs to be easy. If you make it a completely unnecessary pain in the arse to jump on a bike to go to work or go to the shops or whatever, people are less likely to do it.

The benefits of people on bikes are huge - less congestion, less wear and tear on the roads, less pollution, healthier, happier individuals. Lets make it as easy as possible to realise those benefits.

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Least we forget , 80 per cent of all cyclists by the age of 50 need hip and knee replacement s and cost our NHS billions , then there are around 2000 fatality s of cyclists a year on our roads , thus l am pleased l only one knee and one replacement, then not everyone can ride a bike ,due to old age and disabilities, what we do need is more accountability from cyclist by having a mandatory insurance for all bikes and a cycling license so cyclist eyes and health can be checked

TheSwarm · 08/08/2025 13:01

DysgraphiaQueen · 08/08/2025 12:10

"If you really care about making the roads safer, what you do is get people out of cars and onto bikes and public transport etc. You don't get people onto bikes by putting pointless barriers in the way." 😂

I guess you either live in a city or a town where the topography is very flat?

So how many trades people, delivery people, a majority of the work force that need equipment, large families going shopping, tip runs, ect are you going to get on bikes?

No, I just don't think in such an obviously ridiculous literal manner. Obviously, not everyone can give up their cars, but you cannot argue that a lot of people couldn't, and indeed many already have swapped.

The average commute in the uk is 7 miles. That is easily coverable on a bike, and for people doing so in urban areas will likely be quicker than by car. However, it needs to be easy. If you make it a completely unnecessary pain in the arse to jump on a bike to go to work or go to the shops or whatever, people are less likely to do it.

The benefits of people on bikes are huge - less congestion, less wear and tear on the roads, less pollution, healthier, happier individuals. Lets make it as easy as possible to realise those benefits.

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 12:59

OakAshRowan · 08/08/2025 12:17

I think there is evidence that dark cars are more likely to be in accidents so it's not really fine. Given the choice I would always opt for a light coloured car.

You don’t get people on mumsnet, in the daily Mail etc berating people for having black cars though.

OakAshRowan · 08/08/2025 12:28

RH1234 · 08/08/2025 10:59

Please quote me with your wisdom, I’m sure I can explain each point.

Ive never said I’m a saint by the way.

You already have explained your points e.g. why you think it's ok to wave cars past, why you don't bother with high vis, how your idea of riding safely is not hitting anyone... I'm not really interested in hearing further explanations. I'm sure no one expects you to be a saint but at least consider some of the points made by other posters instead of rushing to explain them all away.

OakAshRowan · 08/08/2025 12:17

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/08/2025 11:56

Lots of people drive dark coloured cars but that’s apparently fine?

I think there is evidence that dark cars are more likely to be in accidents so it's not really fine. Given the choice I would always opt for a light coloured car.