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The hatred towards cyclists/horse riders etc

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RH1234 · 06/08/2025 17:53

Following on from a conversation on another thread; AIBU to think that the hatred towards all cyclists/other road users I.e. horses is completely atrocious and unjustified.

Lots of people will make comments about “I bet they were in Lycra”, “I dislike road cyclists”, “they don’t even pay road tax”.

My question is not; do you hate cyclists. My question is why do you hate me someone you have not met) as a cyclist?

For perspective:

  1. I pay VED (Road tax doesn’t exist) on 3 vehicles.
  2. I have insurance for my bikes - which includes public liability etc. My cycle insurance is genuinely more expensive than my car, I also have free insurance through British Cycling.
  3. I don’t run red lights (for transparency, I have been through one red light, floor sensors don’t pick up carbon fibre, it was 5am, after waiting a few minutes, with no cars I went through)
  4. I cycle an average of 19-23mph, I can overtake tractors near me, I’m smaller than a tractor surely you can pass me.
  5. I do ride two abreast if in a group, but if passing is difficult, as per the Highway Code we ensure you can pass when safe.
  6. When riding on my own, I wave cars past so they can often go before they can see.
  7. Yes I wear Lycra - but you try cycling 100 miles without decent chamois in place. I won’t mention leg hair as that’s a whole different subject for you.
  8. My wife use to love cycling, but won’t ride on the road now due to the drivers attitudes.

AIBU to be annoyed that I don’t do any of the things people moan about, yet people will hate me, some people will hurl abuse, some people will literally try and drive me off the road (luckily not that often for the last one)

All I want is, to enjoy the sport I’m love, get fit and then spend the time with my family. Yet my wife has said to me, she is anxious when I’m out and follows me on find my iPhone, because she’s terrified someone will one day leave me for dead in a ditch.

Surely a two minute delay is not unreasonable? I don’t judge based on hobbies or backgrounds, why am I judged?

AIBU in thinking that those who state they hate cyclists clearly are either media influenced or just plain horrible people.

Apologies, this has turned into more of a rant than a AIBU, but I’m sure you get the gist.

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twistyizzy · 06/08/2025 18:18

QuarkQuarkPoshDuck · 06/08/2025 18:00

Gold star for you.

You are a minority though. So many cyclists seem to think the road laws dont apply to them, or cycle with headphones, or ride on pavements to avoid lights, or just jump the lights. And that is why they are disliked.

As for horse riders, it depends what they're doing, but other than going from the stables to a bridleways I'm not sure why you'd want to be on the road. I grew up in a horsey area and we didn't ride on roads.

What fucking bridleways? They are all being sold off and built on!

WaltzingWaters · 06/08/2025 18:17

Most cyclists and horse riders are fine. But some are dangerous or just inconsiderate. I was once stuck behind two horse riders for 20 minutes who just kept going despite so many places they could have easily and safely stopped for me to pass. Instead I had to idle behind them for 20 mins.

And last winter I came across a ridiculous amount of cyclists riding in darkness or near darkness without any lights or reflective gear, even on dark country lanes. So extremely dangerous for everyone!

JustPinkFinch · 06/08/2025 18:16

IMO, many car/van/lorry drivers today are aggressive, unhappy and impatient. People get filled with rage on here (and out on the roads) about someone driving below the speed limit...and even at the speed limit. If they nearly have an aneurysm over a car doing 40 in a 50 zone, then I can only imagine how upset they get when you are in their way pootling along on your bike.

TLDR: most motorists are wankers and that's why they hate you.

MrsLizzieDarcy · 06/08/2025 18:16

We live in a small village that has a cycle route going through it, and it's the middle aged chain gangs of men that annoy me. If you're walking the dog, you can suddenly find 20 men aiming towards you screaming at you to get out of the way. I've got a deaf dog who needs coaxing into the side of the road, and I've had a few episodes recently where I've told them to slow the fuck down.
The Parish council have put signs up for 20mph around the bends but it's not really stopped any of it.

Everyone needs to share the roads with consideration for the other road users, simply.

TeenLifeMum · 06/08/2025 18:16

I don’t want to hate cyclists but when I’m driving home from work on country roads I hate the stress of coming up behind them and having to crawl incredibly slowly for ages when it’s a 60mph road and I just want to get home to my kids. Horses seem to pull in regularly to let cars through, cyclists do not.

twistyizzy · 06/08/2025 18:16

Gloriia · 06/08/2025 17:56

Both are justa hazard aren't they. Ride a horse in the woods and ride a bike on a cycle track. Neither should be on roads imo.

I don't hate either but they irritate me a lot.

And how do you get to the woods? Bridleways are being sold off and built on, some of us only have the roads to ride on.
Entitled car drivers are the hazard

YodasHairyButt · 06/08/2025 18:16

Gloriia · 06/08/2025 17:56

Both are justa hazard aren't they. Ride a horse in the woods and ride a bike on a cycle track. Neither should be on roads imo.

I don't hate either but they irritate me a lot.

And how do you think we should get our horses to the woods? Sprout wings and fly perhaps?

taxidriver · 06/08/2025 18:16

the worst cyclists though are on the sustrans route, think they own it and do not use a bell, go past me without warning

taxidriver · 06/08/2025 18:14

this time of year there are masses of cyclists on my commute, they are not commuters, they are enjoying their bicycles, but oh god they make my journey home difficult.

beAsensible1 · 06/08/2025 18:13

T2teasydney · 06/08/2025 18:01

After moving to London, yes you are being unreasonable!! Every week my dog and I nearly get hit by a cyclist while crossing the road, at the traffic light when we have a green man! Every day I see a cyclist go through a red light, one even weaved between us all crossing at high speed. Major high street aswell! Why do cyclists not think they have to stop at red lights???

They all seem to have some belief they should never have to stop or slow down.

waitingforjumperseason · 06/08/2025 18:13

I’ll be honest, I agree and I do hate cyclists. They simply do not look out for themselves and expects drivers to be the ones responsible for their safety.

Yes, drivers do need to be cautious of everyone including cyclists, but why are cyclist not capable of equally watching out for their own safety? Why expects others to do this for them?

BlueMum16 · 06/08/2025 18:13

RH1234 · 06/08/2025 18:06

Just to reiterate, I am asking why you hate me, not cyclists.

I am aware of all the points your making, and lots refer to your just eat bikes etc..

But I want to know why you hate me for cycling, someone that obeys all the things you want.

I don't know you so cannot possibly hate you

You sound a reasonable person and appear to be doing all the right things to share the road.

I was annoyed (not hate) at a local cyclist today. I went for a walk at lunchtime. Relatively narrow pavement, wide residential road (30mph) but relatively quiet at that time. Cyclist (e bike too I think as fast) came up behind me on the pavement and shouted Excuse Me. I had no choice but to step into the road to let them pass!!

Gettingonwithgettingon · 06/08/2025 18:11

RH1234 · 06/08/2025 18:07

I know about all the points you are making, I don’t do them. Why do I get the same hate?

I'm reasonably certain that the actual reason is that people think cyclists are 'smug' and 'think they're better', which seems to be the thing that makes people angriest (presumably because on some level they are very insecure).

sleepwouldbenice · 06/08/2025 18:11

Of course YANBU you are considerate. But unfortunately many arent. Don't even get me started on delivery cyclists!

Hibernatingtilspring · 06/08/2025 18:11

The scary thing about 'no helmets' is that research has proven drivers are more likely to pass too close to cyclists who wear them, and give more room to those who don't. So it can mean balancing the risk of being protected but also putting up with dangerously close overtakes.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 06/08/2025 18:11

RH1234 · 06/08/2025 18:07

I know about all the points you are making, I don’t do them. Why do I get the same hate?

Because people are lazy and lump all cyclists in together. Just like they moan about horse drivers, or tractors, or BMW drivers.

beAsensible1 · 06/08/2025 18:11

I don’t hate cyclists I cycle. But the sheer arrogance unwillingness to ever brake and the seeming determination to get into a Barney with every car is madness

why are you guys always trying to overtake cars on single lane roads or roadworks.

as a vulnerable road users we need to be just as cautious as drivers. Just because the burden is with drivers doesn’t mean it’s worth the your life and health to prove that point.

it’s pigheaded

RH1234 · 06/08/2025 18:10

TheSeventh · 06/08/2025 18:02

I once had someone wave me past them. When I didn't go he shouted, 'just go past you silly woman'. There was a bus coming the other way.

Stupidity on that cyclists front.

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Theolittle · 06/08/2025 18:09

The trouble with the hatred is that some drivers get in the mindset of not taking enough care round cyclists, through impatience. My friend was in a bike accident - without NHS it would’ve been loss of life it was so serious. Cyclists are vulnerable and whatever you think of them, drivers need to be really aware and careful. And cyclists need to take care too!

AgnesX · 06/08/2025 18:09

It's the arrogance and entitlement - from both sides - that gets people's back up. The " why should I" etc etc.

There's bad behaviour on both sides so let's not kid ourselves that anyone is unilaterally right or wrong.

PS I'm not including horses.

RH1234 · 06/08/2025 18:09

slightlydistrac · 06/08/2025 18:02

I don't think that cyclists and horse riders are viewed the same at all. Horse riders are concerned for one thing only and that is the safety of their animals. They will not ride into your path on purpose. Cyclists on the other hand, very often go out of their way to be a deliberate nuisance. We get a lot of both in the villages and lanes round here, particularly on Sunday mornings. The local cyclists also appear to be incapable of obeying traffic lights.

And don't get me started on the ones with no helmet, wearing black clothing from head to toe, riding a matte black bike and have no lights on at night. They are completely invisible.

I also ride with lights day and night, forgot to mention that, although I do wear black and my bikes black - maybe that’s the reason I’m hated even though lit like a Christmas tree.

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Ponderingwindow · 06/08/2025 18:09

I’m biased against bmw drivers because I used to live near multiple car dealerships and the bmw drivers almost always were speeding down our quiet little street. It made me watch those cars out in other places and notice that the drivers tend to break other rules as well. Not all drivers, but many, and often.

Once you have a few bad encounters, you start watching for more. Soon, the entire group seems awful.

such are cyclists. I used to ride myself. You can’t deny that there are a subset of cyclists who don’t obey the rules and thus tarnish the perception of cyclists everywhere.

Hibernatingtilspring · 06/08/2025 18:08

To answer the original question though OP, I do find that for some reason people see a handful of bad cyclists - eg the teens in black with no lights, or the commuter going through reds - and assume that all cyclists are law breakers who are selfish and put others at risk. Yet when they see a couple of bad drivers they don't assume that all drivers are law breakers who are selfish and put others at risk.

There does seem to be a real misunderstanding as well eg the assumption that lycra is an ego thing, whereas it's just bloody practical. You wouldn't think someone going running whilst wearing lycra running shorts was trying to show off, but cyclists get accused of it all the time.

slightlydistrac · 06/08/2025 18:08

DeafLeppard · 06/08/2025 18:04

If the roads are so narrow and congested, why do we put up with driving ever larger cars down them?

I am a committed utility cyclist and I despair at our motorcentric society that is so, so damaging.

The answer to congestion and ill health is not more cars…

And if it weren't for the endless housing developments and bypasses, horse riders would still have miles of uninterrupted bridleways to ride on (where they want to be) instead of having to use the roads to get from one short section of bridleway to another.

RH1234 · 06/08/2025 18:07

QuarkQuarkPoshDuck · 06/08/2025 18:00

Gold star for you.

You are a minority though. So many cyclists seem to think the road laws dont apply to them, or cycle with headphones, or ride on pavements to avoid lights, or just jump the lights. And that is why they are disliked.

As for horse riders, it depends what they're doing, but other than going from the stables to a bridleways I'm not sure why you'd want to be on the road. I grew up in a horsey area and we didn't ride on roads.

I know about all the points you are making, I don’t do them. Why do I get the same hate?

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