The hatred towards cyclists/horse riders etc

I think if you cannot access appropriate places to ride a horse via bridleways or trailers you shouldn't ride a horse. Roads are not safe for horses, they are so easily spooked and once they start leaping around then everyone is at risk.

Are you this intolerant in real life?

Horses aren't allowed on public footpaths. Bridleways and byways only. Bridleways are rapidly disappearing due to land bring sold off to developers.

No, yards are frequently not built on bridleways 🙄

Roads are safe, it's thoughtless drivers who make them unsafe.

You literally have no clue!

Get the bus or the train and cycle on your days off for leisure and exercise.

No they don’t 🤣

I definitely don't hate either and cycle a fair bit myself around our city. However, some cyclists are very unaware of the need to cycle safely and considerately - never slowing down, skipping red lights, cycling too close to other cyclists etc etc which isn't helpful.

Your point (6) is a particular bugbear of mine. I am not trusting any other road user's judgement on when to overtake - if I can't see ahead then I'm not going as I will be held responsible if there's an accident. Maybe consider whether to stop this? Some cyclists (probably not you) get very angry if you don't follow their advice to overtake and start shouting at the car driver, when actually we're just trying to drive carefully.

I think all road users need to be more considerate of each other. Hatred in any direction is not constructive or helpful to.improve road safety.

This is absolutely not my experience as a driver. I see awful driving all the time and no consequences for it unless you're stupid enough to speed past a camera.

Even if they kill someone they get off.

lol, do you really think the whole country is just filled with fields and woods where horses can go as they please?

Farms and stables tend to be near woods or accessoble via bridleways? We have footpaths that horse riders use, bit annoying but better than the road. If not use a horse trailer. Don't go on roads it is not safe for horse, rider or motorist in most people's views <except horse riders>.

I cycle to work. I use cycle paths as much as possible but they don't exist for part of the route so what would you suggest I do?

And as a horse rider, we thank you for that 😊

I agree that cyclists should use cycle lanes when available and safe (they aren't always). I do so myself and I don't feel any more responsible for the cyclists who don't than I feel responsible for other people's bad driving as a fellow motorist.

I could commute by bus but it is less convenient, takes longer, costs money and means I don't get the exercise I do from cycling, so I'll stick to that, thanks.

I regularly drive 6 miles along a road that used to be a B-road but was downgraded to a C-road. It's windy, and there are only two properly safe overtaking places, one near each end.

There are a few places where it's possible to overtake a single bike safely, but it's a nightmare when you encounter a group of club cyclists out riding en masse. There isn't enough visibility to overtake a group spread out along the carriageway.

It's very frustrating to have to drive the best part of 5 miles at cycling pace in a 60 limit. I suck it up, but I can understand why drivers get frustrated by them.

Horse riders are generally in much smaller groups, and they will often move over onto the grass verge or into a field entrance to let cars pass. And they never go along this particular road more than one abreast, and they invariably give a wave of thanks when I pass them wide and slow (which I always do).

How do you think we reach woods etc? Teleporting ourselves and our horses?

I don't know where you live, but where I am -

The woods and surrounding countryside are almost all footpaths, no cycling allowed

The cycle paths on the road require you cycle 90% on the road for 10% of cycle lanes if you're lucky. Though cars are usually parked in the cycle lanes, and the ones separated from the road are usually in too poor a condition to ride safely unless you've got something like a mountain bike.

There is no such thing as a 'cycle track'. Unless you count the velodrome, but I don't think they'd let me take my little commuter hybrid in there.

It's easier to get away with poor behaviour as a cyclist. not much gets done about it, unless you actually end up killing someone.

Car driving, well if you drive like an idiot sooner or later you will get got.

Do you honestly think all cyclists are like this? Every single one?

It's past. But yes, I thought exactly that when I read the OP.

'As for horse riders, it depends what they're doing, but other than going from the stables to a bridleways I'm not sure why you'd want to be on the road. I grew up in a horsey area and we didn't ride on roads'

Yes I don't get this. Where are they going on their horses? Surelt if they've started from stables there are fields and woods nearby to exercise. Horses are massive and easily spooked. I don't want to see them on roads. If I was a horse owner I think I'd realise they don't like loud noises such as cars, buses and lorries etc.

Generally, I find cyclists quite arrogant mostly.

Horse riders I go extremely slow past.

I don't hate you or any other cyclist. I DO think they are hazards, and not due to any erratic behaviour or anything.

I'm in Cornwall, and they are often found cycling down really windy but fairly well-used 60-mph country roads with nowhere safe to overtake for several miles. I appreciate they are entitled to cycle there, and I DO ensure I'm travelling at a speed where I can stop safely if I find one around the next bend, but not everyone does.

Doesn't that make the other car driver the hazard? Yes, but unexpectedly slow/stationary objects in the road are quite hazardous because noone is a perfect driver. I don't want to hit you, and I don't want to hit another car trying to overtake you where they shouldn't. I don't want anyone to run into the back of me while I'm behind you.

I don’t hate either but I do think, at least where we are, there are far more bad/dangerous cyclists on the road than good hence why nobody is ever particularly overjoyed to see one.

Ok well what about when there are those lovely or orange dedicated paths and cyclists still use the road as paths can have pedestrians on apparently? That is annoying.

Can't you use a bus or train to commute? Much safer and probably nicer not to get to work all sweaty etc.