The hatred towards cyclists/horse riders etc

So? We pay insurance. We don't contribute to wear and tear on the roads unlike cars. We also don't give out carbon emissions which is what road duty is based on.

Right, but the only way to get horses safe on the roads is to ride them on the roads.

It doesn't bother me per se as I don't ride a horse I just witness the problems caused by many unexperienced riders trying to calm their spooked horses and it's no wonder so many come off.

Horses seem quite jumpy animals and the size they are makes it a real hazard for anyone nearby.

To be honest I think most drivers are respectful. I see a lot of hate on social media posts but, in my experience cycling to work in a major city for the last 5 years, I have had very few issues and only one near miss when a bus driver pulled out in front of me. If I felt unsafe I wouldn't cycle.

I dont hate you.

I dislike how you are presenting yourself here I dont think you can go this specific. I also think you are coming across as very narrow minded.

I see good car drivers. Moter bikes and bicyclist regularly

I see poor car drivers moter bikes and bicyclist regularly.

I don't hate any of them. I do dislike poor road awareness from all equally.

As for horse riders I rarely see them where I live now and where I was 5 years ago most where ok.

However for both bicyclist and horse riders
Do not wave me through!
It is not your choice when I go and not your insurance that is liable if I go on your call and there is an accident. Its mine. Due to this allow me to make my choice as for when I deem it safe to pass you.

And like I tell my Mamil brother it may just be two minutes but its two minutes looking at your arse. -Not plesant.

Maybe you should spend your time campaigning for more countryside to be accessible to horses if it bothers you so much.

We've come on a bit from horse drawn carriages. Horses are now rode for leisure, which is nice and I like horses just they should be rode in fields, woods and footpaths <if wide enough>.

I don't think horse riders or cyclists pay vehicle tax for their bikes or horses?

The people I know who hate cyclists view them as poor people who can’t afford a car, and to them being poor is essentially means you’re sub human.

YANBU! I cycle, horse ride and drive. I avoid horse riding on the roads and don’t allow DD to as the standard of driving and drivers’ attitudes are so terrible. I was driving behind a cyclist recently and the car behind me used their horn because I didn’t overtake the cyclist on a blind bend. Unbelievable.

Amen.

Agree with the OP.

Replace 'car driver' with 'man' and 'cyclist' with 'woman' in any of the threads having a go at cyclists, and you would be rightly said to be misogynst.

One in four people or thereabouts are unfit to hold a licence, you would never say that about cyclists.

I used to ride myself from time to time, when I was young and not decrepit, so know how important it is. And horse riders nearly always acknowledge my consideration, and give a wave of thanks, which is nice.

I went riding while on holiday in Ireland many years ago, and the drivers over there didn't seem to give a shit. It was bloody scarey.

I was toying with this issue the other day - having just witnessed a young driver avoid a head on collision by pure luck when overtaking a massive group of about 10 cyclists in a bad place - the vast majority of people driving are doing so because they have to get somewhere - normally work or school . The cyclist and horse rider are mostly doing it for sport and their own entertainment . Their need is less - so they maybe should be obliged to give way but they get priority as they are more vulnerable .

The train isn't a viable option. There is no train station near my house or my workplace.

There is no direct bus, I would need to get two. This takes a minimum of 45 minutes but usually longer due to having to wait for the second bus. It can be over an hour.

I could drive but the nearest parking to my workplace is about a 15 minute walk away and it's not easy to find a space.

Cycling takes 25 minutes and is free.

Do you really think I should choose a less convenient, more expensive, more time consuming way to travel just to keep people like you happy?

I found one source that says about 30000 drivers a day receive fixed penalty notices.

Apparently 11 people in London per day get done for running red lights, and one every 2 days for riding on the pavement. I'd love to know how many cyclists per year get done for cycling without lights, but apparently the stats are not available.

I do suspect that a lot of policing of driving these days has been turned over to cameras.

I'm very respectful around cyclists and horse riders, I do not want to be the reason anyone gets hurt but there is no doubt that some cyclists are very selfish and barely aware of their own safety nevermind anyone else's. Like lots people I find this irritating or annoying but I do not hate them so can we please drop the language of hate that makes it seem like most car drivers are psychopaths looking for an excuse to cause cyclists injury or death. IME horse riders are much more responsible than many cyclists.

Love cycling, considering going back to bikes. Locally the council have put loads of cycle lanes in. It will make it far safer around town and commuting.

As a car driver, there's nothing more annoying than empty cycle lanes while Mike frantically pedals his way down the centre of the road on his road bike. No Mike, you are 59, you aren't in the Tour de France. You look a twat.
Anywhere else, I give room, I'll wait, for both bikes and horses.

Same here. Never had any issues with riders and as one myself, I always wave and say thank you to drivers, or stop if necessary.

@Chipotlego good answer. I’d add that I don’t see why i should have to leave for work 20 minutes earlier in case a cycling group want to hog the lanes to work, happens about once a fortnight- if you are running leisure rides, please schedule for after 9.30 am finishing by 2.30pm then after 7pm missing peak school run and work commute times. This obviously excludes commuting by bike, I’m talking about groups of 10+ Lycra clad men on the only direct road between the town I live in and the town I work in.

The roads are for everyone. There would be no problem if everyone using them treated each other with patience and respect. It’s really that simple.

This is a bit NAMALT, for cyclists

We try our best 🙂

Roads were originally for horses, so maybe car drivers should stop putting them at risk?

This is my experience too. Loads of horses where I live and they always give a cheery wave as you carefully pass them.

People like having a group of “other” people to hate as it makes them feel better about themselves.

It is also socially acceptable to have an irrational hatred of all cyclists based on the behaviour of a small number of them.