The hatred towards cyclists/horse riders etc

Don’t be so bloody patronising! Having witness a head on collision due to the irresponsible actions of a damn cyclist who didn’t even fucking stop. You won’t get far telling me to calm down

I am a pedestrian/user of pubic transport. Don't drive, ride horses or cycle. Car re by far the biggest menace. The bigger the car the worse it gets. The fewer cars on the road the better.

I honestly think there should be a lot more enforceable rules for cyclists.
Wearing a helmet
wearing hi visibility clothing
wearing lights
No cycling in groups larger than 6
no racing on the road
no illegally closing roads to host said races
pulling over if your holding up traffic for more than 5 minutes
wearing something identifying like a registration number so issues can be quickly resolved
being insured min 3rd party liability
no carrying young children on bikes or in those trailer things on national speed limit roads.
all kids to also be wearing helmets and hi vis
for what it’s worth I think the same for horse riders and for pedestrians walking in the road
no waving on other road users

This.

These are the only cyclists l despise. They dominate the roads in rural areas.

Commuter bikes and horses l don’t care about or even notice,

Why do you think a car has priority over other road users?

Walking/riding/cycling/driving - all just a human being trying to get from A to B. Just because I’m in my car doesn’t mean my time and life is any more superior to someone walking/riding/cycling.

You come across as an obnoxious, self centred 🐓 womble when you make comments like that.

I’m a competitive triathlete who has represented my country - should I only train (often doing 25mph) on cycle tracks then?

Oh how we riders wish we could avoid roads and just road in “woods” and fields. We aren’t allowed to just trespass on private property. We wish we could avoid roads, but we have to use roads to access the bridleways.

It’s also better for cyclists to unambiguously take up the lane. One sight I never enjoy is cyclists who ride very close to the gutter. Unless there is no traffic coming the other way / next lane is free, I’m just not going to chance overtaking so it doesn’t help. However, it does increase the chance drivers behind me are going to get annoyed and impatient.

YABVU to wave cars on!! Totally and utterly irresponsible. Any cyclist who waves a car on should be fined as should any car that overtakes a cyclist without being able to see to make their own assessment of the risk of overtaking.
I bet you wouldn’t be quick to accept liability if there was an accident!
If you waved me on damn well would you get a mouthful about how bloody dangerous it is!

Oh this again "I'm one of the good ones why dont you like me" because loads of you are shit ok? I live near a bypass its an accident blackspot 60mph cars that go faster than that it's like fucking bumper cars some weeks "accident on the bypass avoid at all costs" is a regular local announcement there is a cycle path well maintained a meter and a half away from the roads upu dont get pedestrians on 99% of the route because there is nowhere to go it's a bypass there is probably an 8ft strip of land from a car park to a crossing where you will encounter pedestrians where do the cyclists go? On the road with a bunch of dickhead drivers who regularly speed and crash and they whine and they moan and they complain what they dont do is USE THE CYCLE PATH AND STAY SAFE (and yes we know the road is an issue they have recently cut the speed limit and are thinking of cameras but this has been going on for years)

And dont get me started on the roads labeled unsuitable for cyclists that they insist on using steep narrow winding road no path huge buses coming around blind corners in the middle of the road seems perfectly safe for a cyclist right?

Fucking deserve the Darwin award some people

'Your car may dent if you hit a horse, but that horse could easily be killed'

Exactly it's just not a compatible mix is it. Sometimes in life we can't do as we'd like to. When we were kids we used to ride go karts down the road, you rightly don't see that nowadays as it isn't safe.

Cycle in parks or paths, ride horses in fields or woods. All stables have fields they don't tend to be in the centre of built up areas.

No problem with cyclists. Horses however, or their owners do annoy me.
Yes I will slow down to 10mph and give a very wide berth.

Lots of road signs and warnings but never anything about animals that are unsafe on public roads. I stopped in a narrow road because the horse ahead had shied. Probably a butterfly flew past. It danced around the road for 15 minutes while I waited 50 meters back with two children in the car. The rider yelled at me to go past. I didn't want a ton of horse to connect with my car and children and she was offended when I said that horse shouldn't be on a public road.
Ever since then I've been nervous passing horses.

At least cyclists aren't actually going to leap into your car.

Don't lump horse riders in the se bucket as cyclists @RH1234

As a rider of both bikes and horses, as well as driver, I wouldn't dream of taking a horse on some of the roads I cycle or see cyclists on. A horse is its own beast and I have to risk assess the situation every single time I head out. E.g. time of day, busy-ness of roads, potential hazards, sunlight etc. I have also put hours of training in to ride a horse and to get a horse that is safe on the roads. I do not ride a horse on a road through choice and steer clear where I can.

In comparison, cycling is a free for all for a lot of people. Huge groups out on the roads from clubs, little adherence to the highway code and more. Plus when I sue a bike I expect to be able to ride my bike on most roads and use it as a form of transport, which means cycling through towns and on busy roads.

Two totally different issues.

As a horse rider, there are no longer ways of getting into the woods, onto a track or into a field without some form of roadwork. The roads are busy and dangerous places for us, but our only option is to get where we are going as quickly, safely and politely as we can. Our bridleways are being taken over by dog walkers, green spaces are a hazard with off lead dogs (although most dog walkers are courteous and thoughtful), there is often "that one". We have been banned from riding on green spaces so have to travel further. We are insured and wear the correct safety gear and hi-viz. Surely we can all take a moment to ensure we are ALL safe to use the roads?

I fucking despise cyclists on rural roads flying round blind corners often in the middle of the road. I am terrified of running them over. Round here they are a menace in the roads, and there are so many!!! I hoped it was a fad, but sadly the MAMILs have taken over.

What fields and woods? You realise that fields and woods are privately owned?! And if they aren’t, a lot don’t allow horses as they don’t have the infrastructure for horseboxes to park because if they did, there would be people camping there and they don’t want.
We can’t just go where we please. We are limited to the very few bridleways that are available and public byways including the roads. Believe me, I would much rather ride off road than on road but I have no option but to.

I have no problem at all with horses, there are very few of them and where I am they are only ever on small back roads. Plus we've built over so much countryside riders often have to ride on roads to reach bridleways, many stables won't have direct access. And I of course want horses to be able to hack out, it's not at all fair on them if they have to spend their entire lives going round in circles in an arena. They will almost certainly only be riding from their home to the closest path, not blocking roads for miles and miles - and they will pull over and wave people past at the first opportunity. And say thank you.

Cyclists on the other hand ride on busy main roads, even at rush hour when they know full well they're going to cause delays. They never pull over to let people past even when there's an almighty traffic jam crawling along behind them. There are also so many of them, at least where I am. So once you finally get past one, you find another. Then another - in the summer, a 10-15 minute journey can take well over twice that. There is also absolutely no need to do it. You can get as fit on a stationary bike, without breathing in fumes. If you want to be outside in nature, a walk or run would obviously give a far more pleasant view than tarmac and bumpers. I can understand why people cycle to commute, and I think there should be far more done to encourage bikes, electric bikes and scooters in cities, and to firmly discourage cars. But in the countryside it's pure selfishness. You know full well you're inconveniencing people, but carry on regardless. You can hardly be surprised if people think badly of you for it.

Do you think the congestion would be reduced if those WHO ARE ABLE TO were empowered to make the decision to cycle instead?

Cycling is NOT the only answer to congestion but it is AN answer and should be part of a sensible, integrated transport policy.

Get the bus or the train

While that's perfectly feasible if you live in a city or a big town, down here in Smalltown we don't get any buses before 9am or after 5pm, they're only 2 an hour at the best of times, there's a 1-hour gap while the driver has his lunch break, then hourly intervals between 2.30 and 5pm, when the bus is busy being a school bus.

And the bus only goes to the town centre, if you want to go to a different town or the city, you need to get another bus or train from town.

I once considered getting the bus from town to vist my SIL. It's only 20 miles, but it takes over 2 hours, because the bus stops at all the little villages along the way. It's half an hour by car, so I quickly gave up on that idea.

And how do you think the horse gets to the woods? (What woods, no woods and very few bridleways round here). Levitate? Teleport?

Do you really think we want you ride on roads? I've actually stopped riding because of the attitude of so many drivers. Your car may dent if you hit a horse, but that horse could easily be killed.

Everyone I ride out with does too. Like you say, it takes nothing but goes a long way

It’s nice to see that some do it. It would change my view of horse riders if they did this.

I agree, and I've never once encountered a rider who didn't do that.