Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

Or maybe it's actually changed people's lives???
Because it can be both. It can be marketed heavily AND people aren't just naive brain washed trend followers when they tell you how they feel in their own bodies?

Fat people dont get to have valid opinions

Im not saying it doesnt work for anyone.

Im saying that the fawning over the top language like "its a wonder drug oh my god i cant ever live without it again"

has definitely been influenced by the huge marketing push by the pharma company in the UK

I started HRT at 39.

It saved my life. I wouldn’t be here without it.

The reaction I get to being on HRT, is just as bad as saying I’m on Mounjaro. I am very much judged by my peers who are ‘getting through the menopause without it’ and ‘managing fine on supplements’. Supplements have no supporting evidence of positive effects on menopause.

I do like to ask how their bone density, heart disease and dementia risks are when they are snotty about it.

In my opinion it is a wonder drug. Mounjaro regulated my insulin levels to the point that within 6 weeks I was able to stop insulin and metformin. Unlike Insulin and metformin it got my blood sugar levels to be consistently in the normal range.

It has enabled me to stick to a low carb, high protein high fibre, moderate fat diet of 1400-1600 calories a day consistently for nearly a year without any binges and without feeling so hungry I just want to cry which is how I have felt on every diet I have been on in the past.

i have lost 5 stone, I am a healthy BMI for the first time since I was an infant in primary school. I weigh less now than I did when I was 11 years old,

I can jog 5k, I do exercise every day. A year ago I was in constant pain because of inflamed tendons and ligaments in my knees.

If that isn’t wondrous then how would you describe it? I have been to every weight loss support group, tried every diet. I have lost weight in the past but eventually the daily battle through 24/7 constant gnawing hunger would cause me to overeat.

I eat well now, I am healthy and have the blood tests to prove it.

Yes

That's HUGE IMO

Being able to wait, on WLIs, means I'm able to avoid those ingredients more

E.g. on a drive, I would be ravenous and unable to focus, and need to stop. 1st service stop only has a burger king. I don't even like burger king but I would HAVE to eat it anyway, just to need feel too consumed by hunger to go on

On WLI, I feel hunger, yes. Will pull in, look around, say nah, go on to the next stop, see an M&S food, get a fruit bowl, eat it and feel like that's enough of a snack to keep me going, and get on with my life

It's a terrible loop where the urgency prevents you from making the more filling choices..

What's horrific is that the food industry is trying to get on front of this and targeting the healthier food choices that people are making on WLIs

It's rigged

So just to check:
If people say it works for them, that must be proof that it's just pharmaceutical company propaganda getting to them
If people say it didn't work for them, that is proof they do nothing for anyone

Do you maybe see the gap in your logic here?

True. I also wouldn't be surprised if these food companies make deals with these pharmaceutical companies.

Right?

And the same people will then flip on a dime and say "you're taking supply that diabetics need"

Oh so, it works and it's safe for THEM?

We have to wait until we are actually diabetic to try to reverse it, and can't use WLIs to prevent it?

Demand doesn't have a positive effect on supply and funding and cost and availability?

I just want to reply to a post that another poster wrote.

She wrote that the food companies are making food addictive

I also think this. That they are putting stuff into food to make people overly addicted to food. People eat something, and then becone absolutely ravenous with hunger for more food

Because it has the same level of positive impact on my health and life that HRT has.

You sound like people who shamed HRT in the 90s.

Those poor diabetics - no-one gave a fuck (sorry, 'had concerns') about any side effects they might be having for the past two decades!
There's something of the Brass Eye good AIDS/ bad AIDS ep about it all.

Then she didn't need it. GLP-1 wasn't her problem

Don't take iron if your not anaemic

We KNOW WLIs are NOT for everyone

All the people who feel naturally, how we feel ON WLIs, who tell us we don't need em, remind us all the time that not everybody needs WLIs

It is, for many.

The 22 million pounds that the pharma company spent on promoting the drug in the UK, definitely worked anyway.

People go on about it here like its a wonder drug.

They may have during that time wanted to lose weight but as it wasn't happening for whatever reason they just loved the body they had. No point living life hating yourself. But then the 'magic' injection came along and there was a way to lose weight so they did.

Of course they don't

They treat abnormal food (and other addictive consumables) feedback loops

If that isn't your problem, they won't fix you, and will just give you problems

Like if you treat any deficiency that you don't in fact have

They're not for everyone, but they work for a lot of people

I come back to this all the time. People only show 'concern' for the side effects of medication they aren't taking when it relates to obesity.

Im not talking about HRT.

There haven't been any reports of disastrous long term side effects in the people who've been using them for 20 years and counting. Which is great news, isn't it?
Obviously, like any medication, there are potential side effects, some of which are more serious than others. That rightly didn't stop the roll out of the pill (risk of pulmonary embolism or DVT) or ibuprofen ( risk of kidney failure, black tarry stools) or the gazillion other life enhancing medications with long lists of side effects.

I think it'll be the exact opposite and go the way of HRT

Think of the generation that was scared into taking it and told to suffer and suck it up instead?

It was horrific, women lost jobs, relationships, their mobility, even their lives, when there was a safe drug available all along!

They were told it was lazy and dangerous to use HRT.

If we are quoting history repeating itself, I raise you HRT!

we all know that there are people out there who’d rather see really fat people suffer as their punishment for daring to be fat

This is the truth of it. And if they haven’t had to suffer to get thin, then people are just desperately waiting for some moment in the future when they suffer as a result of the medication used to get thin.

Like every other drug ever! The percentage of people who find them effective is much higher for WLI than for many other drugs that no one would ever question the wisdom of taking.

It’s well documented that they don’t work for everyone.

My friend took WLIs and she said that she didnt feel any appetite suppressant effect whatsoever.

She stayed on it for a year as she was advised to let the drug build up in her system.

She said that she didn't feel any effect, and she didn't lose any weight.