Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

I'm staying right here.

Yes that's exactly it. You can go and rest now. Your mission is complete. We thank you, so long.

Like I said, I was much more jolly when I was fat before the fat phobes started coming at me for using WLIs to lose weight and maintain my health!

I provided multiple links and facts,

you couldn't cope that you had your arse handed to you,
so you started throwing insults.

Were you always that rude and ignorant, or is it a new -ish thing?

Look nobody cares about your education, you brought it up to prove you were making logical and sensible arguements on here, despite all evidence to the contrary

And failed.

Yes.

There obviously are people who are taking WLIs in order to starve themselves and lose weight in a way that goes against prescribing guidelines, just like there are people abusing painkillers, and ADHD medications and any other kind of drug.

I can tell you exactly what I have eaten every single day for the last year, I track my calories and make sure I eat a good balance of macros, the only thing I heavily restrict is carbs because I need to keep my blood sugars under control and my body can’t handle them.

i eat a realistic and healthy amount of calories and have lost weight at an average weight of 1.6 lbs per week, with that slowing as I have entered the healthy BMI range because in order to continue losing at that rate I would need to cut my calories too low for my comfort and health.

It has taken work and dedication, I have to exercise self control and remain consistent, the weight hasn’t just fallen off without any effort. The crucial difference this time is that the work has paid off, if I follow the rules of calories in vs calories out then I actually lose weight and feel satiated. That didn’t happen before.

And I was not flexing my bachelors.

I personally think, that Qualifications, while an achievement in themselves, are just one thing that a person does.

Qualifications don't make one person worth more than another. Especially as education often depends on financial circumstances.

So a person from a rich family who achieved a Master's degree is not worth more than Sarah from a poor family who couldnt get to University because she couldnt get the grades needed, as she was spending a lot of time looking after her younger siblings, trying to survive, and had no energy to study.

I was just replying to a poster who called me dim, that I know that I am not dim, because in test conditions that were set for me, i achieved the highest mark possible

The huge lie that people want to perpetuate about people who take WLIs is this:

That we are tryna give ourselves a head start, to skip the effort, jump straight to finish etc.

All we are really doing is levelling the playing field for ourselves.

It seems to bother people that fat people had the same will power and information as them all along, they just genuinely did have it easier as their GLP-1 wasn't outta whack!

Similar to that I had a GP in my 20s who was ex endocrine specialist who said that he suspected that my hormonal normal was different to the clinical range. I.e. that I presented with symptoms that indicate hormonal causes yet my bloods looked fine, he suspected that the optimal normal ranges for me were a different range and planned to keep an eye on that.

But unfortunately he retired and I've had crap GPs since

But I've always felt hormonally off balance (I'm not talking about sex hormones)

And WLIs give me a normality that I never had, which I think only people who have found themselves on the right meds after years of things being wrong, will understand

The really interesting thing to me and something that I truly hope is considered in a wider context and explored in more depth is how much of an impact insulin regulation has had on so many people and why it’s taken buying GLP1 medications privately for people to receive treatment.

i have known with medical proof that I do not produce enough insulin since I was 23. That’s when the Dr’s ran blood test, did ultrasounds and confirmed that I had insulin resistant PCOS. That was also when they handed it off to me as my problem and refused to offer any treatment beyond a patronising look and the words ‘you need to lose weight’.

When I was pregnant at 30, I developed Gestational diabetes, I was treated for the duration of my pregnancy then all treatment was stopped, I was never offered ongoing testing and I was told I needed to lose weight.

I tried, it didn’t work.

i then was diagnosed with T2 diabetes at 41 and given medication and low and behold I have been able to lose weight.

How many people out there are struggling everyday with symptoms that could be resolved with adequate testing, diagnoses and then crucially treatment for their medical conditions, rather than being left to get more and more ill and made to feel like a useless waste of time and resources at the same time?

It's a much more adult conversation between people who qualify and don't choose WLIs Vs the extreme investment people who wouldn't qualify for them take in the subject.

I've never heard an obese people who either doesn't want to try them, or who tried and didn't like them, refer to users as you would tweens trying vapes!

It's extremely strange, and a source of the aforementioned rage that weight loss gives me.

So @Arraminta you are even more wrong then.

You said that you have never heard the phrase "Bachelor's degree' ever said in your 10 years of working in academia.

Strange that!

Bachelor degree (or Batchelor) is a thing in UK I have a BA (Bachelor of art) amongst other qualifications btw!

Then don't be so fucking rude.

You said to me that I couldn't have a Bachelors degree as they don't call it that in the UK.

Which was an absolutely stupid thing to write.

When i pointed out to you reasonably that many people go to Uni outside of the UK, you have nothing to say for yourself.

I have lost the will to live. I no longer care about WLI, this thread and the state of the world in general [sits in the corner and rocks back & forth]

"A heads up"

Lol. Im not flexing my Bachelors (you spelled it wrong) at anyone.

I am replying to the posters who rudely and stupidly said that I couldn't possibly have a Bachelors degree AT ALL, as they don't call it that in the U.K.

I then had to gently explain to them that the world does not revolve around the U.K, and many people go to University outside of the U.K.

I’m not going to engage with you any further @pamelanoon as it’s clear it’s entirely pointless, but I’d just like to say it may be useful for you to look at why you’re so unwilling to believe that this medication works for many people?

WLIs have challenged some of the foundations that fat phobes sat very comfortably on

BTW, in the community I come from, JUST having a batchelors is very much not a flex.

Now I don't necessarily subscribe to that mindset, but a lot of MNers come from similar mindsets / upbringings so... You're probably flexing you batchelors at a lot of people here who may well have masters and beyond. Especially given the age ranges on here spanning when FE was more affordable.

Just a heads up.

What a funny response.
Could you show me where you think I went 'crazy' in this post? You wrote something rather inflammatory and I have replied with accurate information about how this medication has improved my own health.
I've rarely seen any WLI users 'go crazy'. What I do find rather crazy though is people who haven't used them, who have no intention of using them, who often aren't obese themselves, posting obsessively on threads about them. I can't imagine threads about wearing contact lenses, using painkillers or quitting smoking attract the same level of fervour from non smokers with 2020 vision.

Yes. Yes. You are absolutely right. I totally concur.

Now, can you please, please for the love of God Just. Stop. Droning. On. And. Derailing. The. Thread.

Please.

Just to add to the above, I didn't just take it, I stayed in it. I've been on it for quite a while now.

Still doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable medication that works for many people. Why are you so reluctant to believe that it works? There is much, much research and data to show that it works, and has health benefits beyond weight loss.
(Ozempic has never been available to purchase for weight loss in the U.K.)