Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

I haven’t seen this at all. Everyone I know who is/was fat absolutely hates it.

Impressive ignorance there. How about you up read up on GLP1levels and insulin resistance and how MJ ACTUALLY works and then come back.

Have never heard anyone say they love being fat. I’m fat and I would rather not be. Not fat enough to be able to use injections and not sure that I would do it if I could, but that’s because you don’t know what the long term effects might be, not because I want to stay fat.

I’ve been on the jabs and lost over 4 stone. I didn’t love being fat, but I didn't hate my body either. My face definitely looked better with the weight on it, but my body looks better without it. Health was my main motivator though.

No reputable pharmacy is going to supply WLI to a patient with a starting BMI of less than 30 (or 28 for people of a certain ethnicity and existing medical conditions).

And if it’s not a reputable pharmacy then why on earth would you take the risk when they could be giving you any old knock offs?

I just found Secret Eaters on YouTube, it was an eye-opener!
People thinking they needed 3 big meals per day plus snacks plus another meal plus multiple shots of spirits/pints of beer or cider/glasses of wine and having no awareness at all of what they were consuming in total calories.
Oh and eating mostly beige food with very little fibre.
I won't say they were eating a lot of UPFs, but there was also no awareness that substances the human body cannot process are stored as "fat" because the body tries to protect itself from "poison".
I am certain that all of the people on the programme would have jumped at the chance of injections purely because they were completely unaware of why they were in that situation.
I strongly suspect this is the case for the vast majority.
People need to eat "proper" food for fuel (and enjoyment) not stuff that comes in packages. People also need to realise that modern living is not the same as doing 12 hours' heavy physical work and adjust their intake accordingly.
To give an example:
Female, aged 66, 165cm tall weighs 62kg, which is in the healthy BMI range, moderately active. According to TDEE she needs about 1300 calories per day to maintain. Recommended intake for females is 2000 calories, so 700 more than required per day. If the guidance is followed in just over 5 days with an intake of 2000 this female would gain a pound of fat.
It makes you think!

Yes, this. I have a friend who bitches about her husband every time I see her, he sounds like an absolute loser... yet her social media regularly posts how loved up they are, perfect family, so grateful she met him etc. It's bizarre but I can only assume it's to make herself feel better about staying with him.

For what it's worth I don't think people do love being really fat. But some have made lots of money from it on social media in the last 10-15 years, and if you were so inclined you may as well make it for work you. Why not? Most people who are obese have struggled with their weight their whole lives, so there's a freedom in embracing it rather than hating yourself and hiding away.

The first couple of years I was fat, I believed there was no point wearing nice clothes, getting my hair done or making any effort with my appearance. I avoided being in photos, and even going to places I might see people I knew but hadn’t seen me fat yet. I was convinced the world could only see me when I lost weight. It was seeing people like me online that really helped me find my confidence and enjoy the things I’d restricted myself from again. That and realising I was wasting my life hating myself. It’s taken a lot to love and appreciate my body, more now than I ever have, and yet I am about to start WLIs because I know I’d be even happier and healthier slimmer. Influencers are just people, they can love themselves fat and still prefer to be thin.

They're making assumptions because my diet couldn't be further from what they have described.

Perhaps you should look at some of the research on the scary long term effects 🙄

I think I know where I could get them, if I wanted them. I have a family member on the injections, which is where I learned about all the serious risks. Yes, you do have to weigh up relative risk but it scared me hearing them list them. I don't judge them for using them at all. it works for them and helps them succeed in their goals, so good for them. I just don't want to do it.

It’s the same with all those women who wang on about how beautiful Lizzo was at her heaviest. If their boyfriends turned around and told them they looked like Lizzo all hell would break loose. It’s performative.

Exactly what I was thinking, @stickygotstuck - beautifully put.

I don’t obsess about other people and their body choices or challenges.

We live in a culture that promotes body dissatisfaction for women. For some reason fat women think they have a monopoly on this but they really don’t. The western economy is predicated on our dissatisfaction. Imagine the impact in the stock markets if for just one day, no woman bought a product or paid for a service in any way related to improving her appearance.

Body positivity was a push back, and a really important one. But realistically if you have a meaningful option for losing weight, you’d have to be a bit insane to choose an unhealthier body that will potentially cost you decades of life.

But fat women carry an added burden - the hatred directed at them is unreal and unacceptable. And sending a loud “screw you” to people who think it’s ok to hate on other people was important. That continues to be important but not necessarily on the level of the individual.

I’m not surprised that you’re feeling a bit let down. But if you look at those deeper trends that body positivity was trying to counteract - it was never really just about being fat for the sake of it.

You are absolutely entitled to enjoy your body, love what it can do, love its curves, and its cravings, and never feel you have to apologise for not meeting anyone else’s arbitrary standards of attractiveness. I’m

The word 'could' is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

Because the principle of body positivity was never about loving being fat, it was supposed to be about being able to live your life without being ashamed of it. Maybe some people took it to the extreme but who can blame them when the shame was still pouring in? Why wouldn't they want to stop the endless criticism and judgement? They can't do anything right, as your post demonstrates.

Not everyone. I hated being fat and completely owned that at the time.

You still wouldn’t qualify then. You have to be clinically obese (a BMI of 30) to qualify.

OK, a good bit overweight. But not obese.

It’s nobody’s business what size anyone is and whether they have injections or not. People bang on about body positivity etc because people are constantly judging others.

Maybe they did love their bodies when they were fat, but they know that obesity comes with huge health risks so they took an option available to them to lose the weight for the sake of their health and not their looks.

If you’re only a ‘bit overweight’ you wouldn’t be eligible anyway.

Actually, I have very few processed foods in my diet, no very highly processed foods at all. I grow a lot of my own food, organically, buy organic, humanely raised meat, make pretty much everything from scratch. I'm not putting processed food stuff in my body either.

I am someone who doesn't take any medications unless it's a really good idea to do so. If I were morbidly obese with all the risks that brings, then it's probably a good idea.

Don't deny that these injections can cause some very serious side effects. I don't care if someone else choose to use them, for me I'm not willing to take the risk in my circumstances.

Madness that you assume you know my diet.

I have never been happy with my fat body and I'm looking forward to injections.

But it seems to me that a lot of the body positivity people are inspiring becuase they're doign the work to make themselves feel better by looking as good as they can. I am not convinced they are that weight by choice, but losing weight is very very difficult for a lot of people (thin people think it's all just poor self control but it's a lot more complicated than that) and so they have to embrace their bodies as they are and aim to be as happy and healthy as they can within that.

I am not wild about the ones who suggest that being overweight is better and totally fine. But I feel those are the minority.