Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

Of course WLI leads to lifestyle changes. What a strange idea. I eat far less than I used to. I prioritise protein and hardly drink alcohol. Are these not lifestyle changes? As a disabled person my exercise options are severely restricted, so to lose weight I need to eat fewer than 1350 calories a day. I found that impossible without Mounjaro.

I don’t understand the negativity. I am 60 and haven’t had to take HRT. I got through menopause without it. Doesn’t make me a better person than anyone who needed medication does it? Same applies to WLI. I have friends on HRT or anti depressants long term. I will be on Mounjaro long term, I am pretty much ready to maintain now as my BMI is 22 and my astonishingly high cholesterol levels are massively decreased, along with my arthritis symptoms.

Why would anyone begrudge me this?

It’s love hate with me. Oddly enough, I like the aesthetic of curves and fat, and it gets me plenty of attention. But I hate the out of breath side of being fat, I’m always out of breath. The jabs, I wouldn’t entertain it, it’s not natural. And I’m classified as morbidly obese

Maybe in some cases but I think this is an over simplification of the issue. You can be very fit and active and still carry some extra weight (and that's not necessarily down to bad diet). Especially when you start going through hormone changes at middle age.

Why do they have to present themselves as anything??
SM is not compulsory for anyone....

GLP-1s quite literally work by doing the job of a natural hormone, which would logically suggest that said hormone doesn't function as it should.

No. They loved being a lazy fucker, now they like being a thin lazy fucker. I think they should all be given mandatory gym sessions, fat jabs are not a route to long term weight loss, since they do little to address underlying lifestyle issues that created the issue in the first instance.

In the nicest way - I don’t know why you believed them, it was always total bullshit 🤷♀️

I think the answer is that it's impossible to exist in society in a bigger body without having to apologize for it. As a result, many people began to react by going the other direction to overtly be proud of their body. Shame only makes being overweight worse so I think somewhere in the middle would be better i.e. being body neutral.
You also have to watch social media like you are reading a magazine. People only post the things they want you to see. "Influencers" are the new age marketers, it's just not labelled as such because it's a female dominated field and it is looked down on.
As someone who was not fully body positive but tried to be as neutral about my body as possible and who has now lost a significant amount of weight I can say that you don't know the benefits until you've lost the weight. If you looked at me now you would think I'd be at the beginning of my WL journey not half way through and yet I feel a million times better. My body doesn't hurt the same (something I blamed on sleeping wrong), my blood pressure has significantly dropped (it was in normal but on verge of high which I hadn't even realized), I can do things I haven't done since I was a teenager and the power of being able to dress in a more stylish way has had a massive impact on my overall confidence. It's possible many people did think they were happy because there was no alternative but now they've been able to loose weight they can see the benefits.

I enjoyed being fat.

"What annoys me is the new trend of saying someone 'has' obesity. As if it is a disease. (obviously I'm not including people for which it is due to a condition/disability)."

Obesity isn't a disease apart from when it's a disease, good one 😅

We live in a culture that promotes body dissatisfaction for women. For some reason fat women think they have a monopoly on this but they really don’t. The western economy is predicated on our dissatisfaction

This 100% we need to consume less. WLI are by nature addictive themselves. Weight comes off with them, weight piles on for a significant % of people without them. You need a small % where it works to fuel the dream.

Plus no real lifestyle changes! I am surprised that there are no WLI ready meals and snacks in the supermarkets to keep us hooked on certain foods.

Why do you doubt them? I'm exactly as you describe..I'm v short and peri. I will put on weight at much over 1000 a day which is pretty hard to stick to without a lot of prep, planning, and yes, willpower. MJ does do exactly as you said, readdress the hormone balance so I can eat the more limited calories my body needs without the hunger that drives over-eating.

Plenty of fat people have no interest in taking these jabs. The same way they weren't interested in bariatric surgery or the pills that make you shit orange oil.

You cant avoid them though! I love the Style and Beauty forum on here but every post I read seems to have someone who just has to mention they need new clothes because they're on Mounjaro - they cant even say 'I've lost weight', they have to mention the sodding jabs.

I’ve always hated my body. Never been quiet about it and never been quiet in my condemnation for the “body positivity” movement which really just encouraged obesity.

Surely the healthiest way to approach weight loss - and the one that's more likely to work in the long run - is from a place of self love? Appreciating that your body needs to be looked after. That you deserve to be healthy and well nourished.

I wonder if the reason so many diets fail is because it comes from an approach of self loathing; I don't deserve 'treats', I need to punish myself through starvation.

What do people really think will be achieved by fat people hating themselves?

Isn’t it more of a ‘love the skin you’re in’ message. I’m not overweight myself so can’t say for sure, but I always understood the message to be about not hating yourself and being accepting of who you are, fat or thin. Weight loss comes with health benefits so of course many would chose to take advantage of the ‘skinny jabs’, that doesn’t take away from the overall message which is to be ‘body positive’ regardless of size!

I'm overweight (slightly, nothing major).

I never claim to have loved being chunkier, but I do have the confidence to know that there is more to me than my weight, so I dont hold much emphasis on my weight as a whole.

I base things more on my health - can I still exercise regularly? Can I still go out to the shops and buy clothes that I like? Can I eat a treat guilt free? Do I have any health issues relating to my weight?

All the above are yes, so I dont worry too much about the number on the scale or the label on my clothes.

Doesn’t matter. The drugs are approved/licensed for patients with a starting bmi of 30 if you are healthy or 27 if you have certain medical conditions. if you don’t meet those criteria then no reputable pharmacy/ provider in the world will be supplying this medication to you.

It went too far to the point obesity was celebrated and justified as ok, when it’s not really, it can be dangerous.

It’s good there is help out there now and people are changing their tunes.

I think its cultural.
Every movement which historically had shame attached to it has become performatively positive.

Women are constantly shamed though arent they?
Whether theyre fat or doing something about it.
You cant really avoid the flagellation, but you can say "fuck it" which is probably the only way you're going to make peace with yourself while others are queuing up with something to say about your body.

I find that loads of people on the injections either say the injections fixed the hormonal imbalance which was preventing them from losing weight OR they can only lose weight eating like 1000 calories a day and they were putting on weight eating 1400 calories a day before the injections.

Most people won't admit they were a eating way too much before the injections. I was. I can admit this.

Good post - it's not about loving fat, it's about loving yourself and doing your best by yourself at any given time, with any given body size. People still bang on about how fat people wearing nice clothes is 'glamourising obesity' but that is body positivity.

I can still love my body as it is, fat. I don’t feel any need to be ashamed of it.

but from a health perspective, I know that it would be better to weigh less.

I'm not in the UK.