Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

Have you read the literature?

What a well-put post.

Only thing to add is that "body positivity" is a good thing if it means that people with slow metabolisms, little time or money to cook healthily and weight issues as a result, don't hate themselves and do realize that society and genes are as much, and probably much more to blame than some sort of personal moral failing.

We should try to be body positive in terms of not allowing our weight to depress us, but we should not lie to ourselves that it is in any way aspirational or ideal.

It’s really common to have to embrace a particular state of affairs where there isn’t really a viable alternative, it doesn’t mean you wouldn’t change it given the option, just that you choose contentment to avoid being stuck in a negative thought cycle. Weird that you’re acting like they have sold out by choosing to become healthier when the option became available.

I'm not sure why people find it hard to understand. Once you are obese, losing weight naturally and keeping it off is incredibly hard and often more or less impossible. So if you can't change it, why not embrace it and try to love yourself? Now there's a way of losing the weight without the extreme difficulties that you'd otherwise have so of course lots of people will opt for that - it's not good for you to be fat.
It's like saying that you don't get why a body-positive amputee wouldn't choose to have their leg back if they can.

This will 'go down' well...

You can love your body as it is and also be willing to change it.

I'm in the early stages of a migraine right now. I've just taken some medicine for that. But I still love my brain, and am happy to live my life with occasional migraines, and value some of the experiences that I've had as a result of those migraines, and am glad that sometimes at stressful moments by body forces me into resting, and I don't want to be treated badly, or discriminated against, or have people make assumptions about me based on my migraines.

If people kept on talking about people who got migraines were feeble, lazy , ugly, miserable, skivers, then I would probably spend quite a lot of time and effort on loving myself with my migraines.

The laziest thing around here seems to be your brain.

I don’t think anyone loves being fat really.
the only scenario I can imagine this maybe being somewhat true is that if they’ve always been bigger, they wouldn’t know necessarily how ‘bad’ they actually feel day to day. I put on huge amounts of weight during pregnancy and after baby was born I honestly felt absolutely horrendous. Everything was a huge effort and my body was just struggling so much! I was desperately uncomfortable moving around and doing anything much at all. It made me feel ill daily. Even losing a few kilos from then I felt so so so much better.

I think the body positivity has gone too far and the truth is it’s a way for us to all
continue eating rubbish, the food industry must be laughing as they can continue with terrible quality, unnatural ingredients etc. And now the pharma industry can make money from it aswell! I think the whole things a shambles and really we should be eating better food, moving more and taking responsibility for our own health.

Surely it’s pretty obvious. They were struggling to do anything about their weight so they were celebrating what they were, now they can do something about it they are. It’s not that they were lying, they were feeling good about themselves and celebrating what they had, but given the option being thinner is probably better for overall quality of life throughout life, if it’s an option.

I think both things can be true. I'm one of those people who've lost 5 stone on Mounjaro - and who genuinely liked my body beforehand. It wasn't about how it looked for me, but the health issues being overweight was causing me.

Losing weight has crashed my sex drive into nothingness because I don't particularly like how my body looks now - I don't feel like me, I don't feel sexy, I feel skinny and angular looking (although I'm not yet anywhere near 'thin' - it's my perception of myself rather than an objective truth!). Things I liked about my body - my boobs, my bum, a general softness - aren't there any more and it's a big adjustment. I preferred, in how it made me feel about myself, my body before. But equally, I'm making a compromise, because I've reversed my T2 diabetes and back pain.

I imagine I'm in the minority: we're pretty constantly told that fat bodies aren't sexy, so a lot of people who may well have liked their bodies before will feel better and more valued in bodies that weigh less. But there will be people who feel the same as me, I'm sure.

Who, though? You haven’t said a single name on who has done this.

For me it may be a personality matter. I don't like to take any medication without good cause. All medications have risks and side effects, so the use of them has to be justified for me. I would rather work on losing weight the 'hard way' but, if the doctor suddenly told me I was borderline for diabetes and my blood pressure was way too high, I might consider the jabs short term to get myself sorted.

So what? I’ve lost weight using the jabs and I’m proud of myself. Why shouldn’t I mention it?

This is just another fat bashing thread really. All the haters of those awful scary injections just hate seeing women getting slimmer. I hope those who would never put that filth in their bodies didn’t have any Covid vaccines 😱 probably pumping their bodies full of Botox and fillers though.

Have you asked anyone who’s suddenly lost the weight why they did it, if they were so happy being larger? Health reasons alone would be good enough I think; plus setting a healthy example to DC perhaps. I am live and let live, but it’s not ‘sizeist’ to recognise that being slimmer is healthier and will likely give you a better quality of life for longer. It is understandable and desirable for people to have a positive self image at whatever size they are, but it’s also understandable that given the choice, people might choose the jab which equals better health.

no one loves being fat (even the probably 50 people above who I imagine have said they love it).
Everyone who looks slim and with it societally acceptable prefers that every day of the week.

In general, people are masters of the art at engaging in self-deception and changing the narrative to justify their today and lack of change / effort / success etc. It's really simple psychology

People on social media are not necessarily representative of people generally.

By what calculation? I’m getting just shy of 1800 cals to maintain on a tdee calculator. Which is reasonable. Have attached a photo for when it is approved after review.

OP - I am large and I don’t hate my body or feel shame. It is what it is. It carries me through the sport I love and I have a lot of muscle, and I am very strong. I am also overweight and on the injections to help me lose weight as I do need to lose a bit, but exercising for on average 8 hours a week makes me starving all the time. It’s helping me and I’ve lost 15kg this year. You can still love/not hate your body and want to lose weight. For me it’s about being able to compete faster but also maintaining my strength - I’m on a mid dose, as I want to keep my muscle tone. If you’re on a high dose you often lose muscle too.

ETA - I have also been the other end, having suffered with anorexia and bulimia for years, then binge eating disorder. The last 5-7 years have been my fattest but my most healthy by comparison, as I no longer struggle with an eating disorder. I eat healthy, I continue to work out a lot. I wouldn’t change my fatness for that again. I am now losing in a healthy way without feeling the ED pressure - I also believe this is down to how the jabs make me feel.

Body positivity covers a wide range really doesn’t it. From people who say they love being fat to people who refuse to be defined by their body size and just accept it. I think the former are more prevalent on social media so just appear more common than they are in real life.

Just a goady troll IMO.

Surely, SURELY, you can work this one out for yourself?!

This is a prime example of why the body positivity movement took hold so voraciously and ultimately became OTT.
It was designed to challenge lazy thinking and loud stupidity.

You sound thick as shit.

I went to the gym 3 times a week when I was fat, and I still do now that I’m thin.

There’s a difference in accepting your size and loving it. Even the body positivity people come across as so bitter I can’t believe they do love their bodies, but they are the bodies they have and it’s awfully wearing going around hating yourself.
I mean if the option was there who would stay fat? Despite their rhetoric being very overweight is unhealthy, it does affect their mobility, and they are stigmatised. WLDs are a fantastic tool and it’s great so many people are now healthier after taking them. We should rejoice in it, not point fingers.