Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

I went out for dinner with a friend who told me she was using the jabs, but ate a burger and chips. The rest of us had realtively healthy choices (salad bowls and pasta w tomato sauce). It does seem to be a bit of 'well I'm using mounjaro so I can eat what I want' type situation.
I don't know anyone who is happy being larger - one of my other friends is obese but doesn't do much about it (she does some exercise but not cardio so it makes no difference to her weight and she eats a terrible diet imho). I also hate it when I'm bigger and much prefer my body when I can easily slide in to a size 12.

I can't imagine anyone loves being fat really

The majority of people in that position - whether they admitted to it or not - almost certainly weren't 'happy' with how they looked/the impact their weight was having on their life/health. Saying that they were, was absolutely a coping mechanism (just like when they claimed they 'couldn't' lose weight for whatever reason) - it was an effort to convince others, and themselves.

I genuinely believe that the majority of those people were in that position because they weren't willing to regulate their food intake or do the requisite exercise to improve their situation.

So now that those people have found a cheat code - the ability to lose the weight without putting in the effort to exercise, or having the willpower to control their eating - of course they're going to be happy. They got their desired result, and can claim it was only possible via medical intervention, while maintaining their fantasy that it was nothing to do with them not moving enough and eating too much.

But it's still not making a healthy choice is it and I'm sure you are supposed to rethink your way of eating otherwise you come off and put the weight back on.
Also, it's not just about cals, it's about nutrition too.

I went out for dinner with a friend who told me she was using the jabs, but ate a burger and chips. The rest of us had realtively healthy choices (salad bowls and pasta w tomato sauce). It does seem to be a bit of 'well I'm using mounjaro so I can eat what I want' type situation.
I don't know anyone who is happy being larger - one of my other friends is obese but doesn't do much about it (she does some exercise but not cardio so it makes no difference to her weight and she eats a terrible diet imho). I also hate it when I'm bigger and much prefer my body when I can easily slide in to a size 12.

0.6ml is 600mg. 100mg per day (700mg per week) is an effective oral dose of thalidomide for some indications. (Thalidomide is still very much around and it's a pretty good drug apart from the effects in pregnant women.)

There are no studies demonstrating the safety of semaglutide in pregnancy. Some animal studies suggest an association with birth defects.

These things are complicated. I'm a believer in science, and obesity is a crippling problem for many. But I don't think you have to be a swivel-eyed antivaxxer to question whether an expensive course of injections of appetite suppressants that also have a number of immediately noticeable side-effects is right for you until we have learned more about the longer-term effects.

What's the success rate of having counselling to lose significant amounts of weight?

Everyone’? Really?

love being fat? No. Willing to inject myself with stuff that we don’t know the long term side effects for? No.

give it 30 years and the NHS could be dealing with the effects of these jabs. Just like the smoking ads of the 50s…

Or maybe she’d accounted for the burger and chips in her daily calorie allowance, because she was going out for a meal and it was a treat?

0.6ml is 600mg. 100mg per day (700mg per week) is an effective oral dose of thalidomide for some indications. (Thalidomide is still very much around and it's a pretty good drug apart from the effects in pregnant women.)

There are no studies demonstrating the safety of semaglutide in pregnancy. Some animal studies suggest an association with birth defects.

These things are complicated. I'm a believer in science, and obesity is a crippling problem for many. But I don't think you have to be a swivel-eyed antivaxxer to question whether an expensive course of injections of appetite suppressants that also have a number of immediately noticeable side-effects is right for you until we have learned more about the longer-term effects.

I went out for dinner with a friend who told me she was using the jabs, but ate a burger and chips. The rest of us had realtively healthy choices (salad bowls and pasta w tomato sauce). It does seem to be a bit of 'well I'm using mounjaro so I can eat what I want' type situation.
I don't know anyone who is happy being larger - one of my other friends is obese but doesn't do much about it (she does some exercise but not cardio so it makes no difference to her weight and she eats a terrible diet imho). I also hate it when I'm bigger and much prefer my body when I can easily slide in to a size 12.

I'm sick of hearing about these injections - the people who take them never seem to shut up about it. I think that's the bigger issue - attention seeking (usually on SM) from both 'body positive' people and the jab users.

I thought the singer Lizzo did, but now she’s a shadow of her former self…

I went out for dinner with a friend who told me she was using the jabs, but ate a burger and chips. The rest of us had realtively healthy choices (salad bowls and pasta w tomato sauce). It does seem to be a bit of 'well I'm using mounjaro so I can eat what I want' type situation.
I don't know anyone who is happy being larger - one of my other friends is obese but doesn't do much about it (she does some exercise but not cardio so it makes no difference to her weight and she eats a terrible diet imho). I also hate it when I'm bigger and much prefer my body when I can easily slide in to a size 12.

I'm sick of hearing about these injections - the people who take them never seem to shut up about it. I think that's the bigger issue - attention seeking (usually on SM) from both 'body positive' people and the jab users.

0.6ml is 600mg. 100mg per day (700mg per week) is an effective oral dose of thalidomide for some indications. (Thalidomide is still very much around and it's a pretty good drug apart from the effects in pregnant women.)

There are no studies demonstrating the safety of semaglutide in pregnancy. Some animal studies suggest an association with birth defects.

These things are complicated. I'm a believer in science, and obesity is a crippling problem for many. But I don't think you have to be a swivel-eyed antivaxxer to question whether an expensive course of injections of appetite suppressants that also have a number of immediately noticeable side-effects is right for you until we have learned more about the longer-term effects.

If you read what I wrote, you’d realise I am a fat person still (and used to very fat in fact, 23 stone so morbidly obese before counselling helped me to just be “overweight”). I didn’t say for ALL fat people - if you noticed I said the word “personally” , based on my own experiences and to be honest talking to the many, many others I met at weight loss groups over the years who felt the same way. It might not be for you, but I and others found it very helpful and I think counselling can be a reasonable thing for some people to consider before trying weight loss jabs first that could have significant side effects.

It’s so bloody tiresome hearing that fat people need counselling, or they’ll put all the weight back on. I definitely don’t need counselling. I ate massive portions of dinner because I gradually started eating the same size dinners as my much taller husband. I didn’t know what my tdee was and didn’t have a good grasp of how many calories were in the foods I ate. There’s no mental health issue here and I now know exactly how many calories I need to lose and maintain. I keep a tight check on my weight - something I’ve never done before.
Please stop assuming all fat people need mental health intervention, it’s simply not true.

A 0.6ml subcutaneous dose, once a week, is hardly “pumping yourself full of drugs”. Do you meticulously research everything you eat? Do you abstain from alcohol? Do you take the contraceptive pill?