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Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

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Holmints · 06/08/2025 09:46

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

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PinkArt · 06/08/2025 15:48

SwingTheMonkey · 06/08/2025 15:32

I’m proud that I’ve lost weight 🤷🏻‍♀️

Presumably you aren't meant to feel proud because you're a lazy, dirty cheater for using WLI! 🤦🏻‍♀️ Despite the fact you've still made all of the dietary changes you would have without them, made all of the food choices, likely upped your exercise or general activity, dropped your calorie intake...
It's like saying someone with dyslexia shouldn't get to feel proud of their results because they were granted extra exam time.

SecretNameAsImShy · 06/08/2025 15:40

plinkityplink · 06/08/2025 09:58

Everyone’? Really?

love being fat? No. Willing to inject myself with stuff that we don’t know the long term side effects for? No.

give it 30 years and the NHS could be dealing with the effects of these jabs. Just like the smoking ads of the 50s…

Yawn! Another one knocking WLI. The drugs have been used for years to treat diabetics. The drugs are safe for long term use as long as a medical professional, ie GP, are overseeing it.

SecretNameAsImShy · 06/08/2025 15:38

doodleschnoodle · 06/08/2025 10:00

Because it’s a way to deal with. Outside of very niche cases I think almost every fat (as in clinically obese) person would rather not be fat. No one would choose to be fat v a healthy weight, but it’s about making the best of it I suppose or trying to exert some control over something you feel you don’t have control of.

Personally I find some of the ‘body positive’ advertising with very obese models (Snag I’m looking at you) just as inappropriate as very thin models, but that is apparently not an acceptable thing to say.

Disclaimer: I was fat. I was not happy being fat. I was not body positive. I am slim now and am happy being slim.

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Totally agree with you regarding the snag adverts, also the adverts for bras which seem to be constantly on my social media feeds, very large girls with teeny tiny bras on! M&S, Next and now Zara coming under fire, quite rightly, for stick thin models. Both polar opposites and both showing unhealthy people.

I was and had been for many years, clinically obese. I managed to lose a stone last year and a stone the year before with dieting. Two stone in two years. I’ve been on WLI for 7 months and have lost a further 3 stone. I am still in the overweight category and need to lose another 2 stone to get to a healthy BMI. For me WLI have been life changing.

I can honestly say that I was bloody miserable when I was fat, I am so much happier now.

The celebs who were saying they were happy fat but have now lost loads of weight were trying to convince themselves they were happy when the reality was that they weren’t.

SwingTheMonkey · 06/08/2025 15:32

Brownbearwhitebear · 06/08/2025 15:29

What are you proud of though? I honestly dont get it

I’m proud that I’ve lost weight 🤷🏻‍♀️

spoonbillstretford · 06/08/2025 15:32

plinkityplink · 06/08/2025 09:58

Everyone’? Really?

love being fat? No. Willing to inject myself with stuff that we don’t know the long term side effects for? No.

give it 30 years and the NHS could be dealing with the effects of these jabs. Just like the smoking ads of the 50s…

It's already dealing with the effects of obesity.

AngelinaFibres · 06/08/2025 15:31

DancefloorAcrobatics · 06/08/2025 10:01

Marketing is working very hard to make being fat unacceptable.

But it is unacceptable.

AlvinBrioche · 06/08/2025 15:30

There is nothing wrong with loving your body, I think you are far more likely to succeed with weight loss if you aren't feeling hideous about yourself, although for some these negative feelings will be the thing that motivates them to lose weight.

That said, there are so many risks with being overweight, losing the weight is a positive for everyone. We live in a time where our hospital services are so poorly funded and overstretched, this could make an amazing amount of difference in years to come with cancer rates, heart disease/attacks, joint replacements and other weight related illnesses.

I have come across a plethora of slim people who seem petrified at the fatties becoming thin! I think if you need the jabs to help you lose weight, then go for it. Its not cheating because people losing weight is a win for everyone!

Brownbearwhitebear · 06/08/2025 15:29

SwingTheMonkey · 06/08/2025 11:46

So what? I’ve lost weight using the jabs and I’m proud of myself. Why shouldn’t I mention it?

What are you proud of though? I honestly dont get it

TakeMeToAnIgloo · 06/08/2025 15:26

To me, body positivity is a reaction against the idea that fat people should hate ourselves, just for being fat - that the fatness is all that defines us. And being positive, loving your body, doesn't literally mean that you love being fat, but that you feel you are worth just as much as anyone else, fat or not. The hate towards being fat is so ingrained in you that it's really hard not to hate yourself, and to agree with the messages that society gives you that fat is one of the worst things anyone can be. The constant messages that you should have fat models showing how clothes look in case anyone is inspired to try to look like that (yeah right, it's so obvious hot much fat people are hated that it's not going to happen!), that clothes - especially nice ones - in larger sizes shouldn't be available in shops in case it makes being fat seem too normal (again, who is going to choose to be fat just because nice clothes were available?!), that if you're fat you shouldn't eat in public, especially treats, but also shouldn't exercise in public, etc. All of it just gives you the constant message that you aren't worth as much as a thin person. So body positivity and loving yourself -regardless of your body - is more what I think this movement was originally about; loving yourself despite(?) or perhaps including(?) being fat, as part of the whole package of 'you'.

And none of that is counter to losing weight. I have lost a fair bit of weight recently, not via jabs, but I probably would if I had had the opportunity. I probably would have been a good candidate in many ways - I am currently managing to control calories, but it's constant hunger and obsession about food and planning and what I am going to eat when, when will I fit in a long run to make up for it, how many hours of exercise etc - and realistically, I don't know if it's sustainable. It's miserable, that's for sure. I've done it before, and never managed to maintain, though with fewer hours of exercise before. It's a constant battle, it seems. And my blood work, other conditions etc isn't getting better anyway, which makes it even more of a struggle. I can't stop thinking about it for a day or I lose the will power and gain again. I don't think I have turned into someone with the mind of a slim person at all. Yet people will say that I've done it 'properly' because I haven't used the drugs, but honestly, I don't think it's different. People using the drugs are possibly happier while doing it, but they still have to cut the calories and treats almost completely, exercise for ages etc, if they actually want to lose the weight.

Do I feel more body positive now? Not really. I still know I've been fat for most of my life, have a likelihood that I will be again, and am very very aware of how I'm judged for it and treated when fat/slim, and I know what people think. They are more likely to make comments about fat people around me now that I'm less fat, and it's astonishing the depth of fat hatred that you can find in people you wouldn't have expected. The years living with the messages from society about how awful being fat is have had a long-term effect that is as hard to get rid of as the weight. I don't think people realise how much their judgements affect people - and not in a way that spurs them to lose weight, that's for sure.

And as for burgers and chips, yes maybe once a month or two I will eat out, and then I will have something that I've been craving for ages, what might seem like a full, unhealthy meal, but only because I've prepared and planned for it, possilbly run for ten miles earlier in the day, eaten extra mini portions for the week beforehand, etc. It might be the treat I've been looking forward to as motivation to keep on with the whole business. So don't judge your friends without knowing all the details of what they're doing. Treat them as if they're worth something regardless of size instead, and then maybe they will be able to make the healthy choices - it's much easier to treat yourself well and be healthy when you think you're worth it as a person.

FairyGodDaughter · 06/08/2025 15:24

RunSlowTalkFast · 06/08/2025 15:07

I remember it mostly being about UPF and how it's everywhere and addictive so it's hard not to eat more than we should. Which is what I said.

I tried to do very low upf eating but found that I'm able to overeat on anything so went back to calorie counting!

I wish he’d write an updated post WLI version.

FairyGodDaughter · 06/08/2025 15:22

@WalterMittysPuppet many people don’t get side effects, especially if able to stay on low doses. I’ve been on for more than 6 months and honestly have had zero side effects (and lost 4 stone).

BunnyLake · 06/08/2025 15:16

LavenderBlue19 · 06/08/2025 14:45

I'm not sure it does, for some. The slimness, at least. My best mate has always been slim (known her since we were teens, now mid-40s) and says she doesn't really get hungry. She doesn't think about food other than the practicalities of needing to feed herself for energy to do things. She's only just recently started exercising regularly - running - because she says it's a nice break from the kids 😂She's just not really interested in food. I think a lot of slim people are like that, to greater or lesser extent.

I was slim all my life until I got to forty and the sudden weight gain was really triggered by some abdominal surgeries I had to have. Before that I ate whatever I wanted and was always thinking about food but stayed naturally slim (no exercise other than normal walking). I remember work colleagues would say, you’re always eating, how do you stay so slim? Aargh, those were the days. Now a sandwich will pile the weight on me. Trouble is I still think about food a lot but anything remotely carb piles the weight on me. I wish I could think so little about food and eating as your friend. I just love to eat. 🫤

RunSlowTalkFast · 06/08/2025 15:07

FairyGodDaughter · 06/08/2025 14:01

I’m surprised. The book explains very clearly the links between high calorie “canteen” food and hormones (and other factors such as genes) and how these interact together to cause obesity. Did you not agree with Dr Jenkinson’s theories?

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I remember it mostly being about UPF and how it's everywhere and addictive so it's hard not to eat more than we should. Which is what I said.

I tried to do very low upf eating but found that I'm able to overeat on anything so went back to calorie counting!

TheHandmaidsSnail · 06/08/2025 15:05

I hated it and was in denial. I am much happier and healthier now. Would recommend them to anyone.

BunnyLake · 06/08/2025 15:04

NewWin · 06/08/2025 09:54

I can't imagine anyone loves being fat really

I’ve been both (currently overweight) and no way would I choose overweight over being slim, if I could click my fingers to be one or the other.

I think it is a defence mechanism, although I have heard about people getting slim then feeling unhappier than when fat, but that might be more rooted in the eating disciplines required rather than the visuals.

WalterMittysPuppet · 06/08/2025 14:55

Self-acceptance is the defence against being vilified for being fat. Look how happy and confident I am, I don't care what you think!

But underneath, speaking for myself, I long to be slim and accepted at a superficial level by society (with the added benefit to my health). I'm embarrassed and ashamed that my family have seen me get heavier and heavier in a very stressful job.

If I were brave enough to try WLI without the risk of sulphur burps, diarrhoea and vomiting, I totally would. But I'm not brave at all, so I am calorie counting without medical assistance (and telling my brain I'm on the injections). 😂

I'm menopausal so it's sloooowwww.

BanningTheWordNaice · 06/08/2025 14:52

I don’t think anyone loved being fat but for some people, probably loved the reprieve from excessively checking all calories and food.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/08/2025 14:50

I've learned a harsh lesson that online is not real life

One body positive fashion influencer I followed was wearing clothes that were too small for her and seemed a mess. Now shes had wls and is quietly influencing 😭

I remember being surprised at the nasty treatment of me being fat, thinking 'how are these influencers doing it'. The truth was, they'd go out early in the morning and film their videos so that, imo, they wouldnt be publicly shamed

So sad really that people will say anything for a following and a the sponsorship deals

Lose the weight if you can girls, and watch your life improve 💕

goldenquestion · 06/08/2025 14:49

Goatymum · 06/08/2025 14:38

But it's still not making a healthy choice is it and I'm sure you are supposed to rethink your way of eating otherwise you come off and put the weight back on.
Also, it's not just about cals, it's about nutrition too.

I lost 7 stone a few years ago, entirely “naturally”. I developed an eating disorder. I wouldn’t allow myself to eat anything that I couldn’t strictly and confidently calculate the calories for. As such, I didn’t ever eat outside the house unless I’d brought the food with me. I had no treats, no breaks and no let up for 11 very long month, even over Xmas and my birthday. I also ran every day, multiple times a day. I put all the weight and more back on.

Since being on WLI, I eat when I’m hungry, I eat healthy balanced meals through choice (as other foods that I previously enjoyed no longer taste nice to me). I walk every day, but don’t have to spend hours running myself to exhaustion to get the same result. And when I go out to eat with friends on the odd occasion now, I can choose what I’d like to eat because my diet is perfection (in my eyes) the rest of the time, without any guilt or punishment. This is by a long way, far more sustainable for me.

it’s not as simple as looking at someone with a burger and judging it at face value (nor is it your place to do so, but that’s a separate issue).

PinkArt · 06/08/2025 14:49

goldenquestion · 06/08/2025 14:27

And for this reason, you are very clearly told to avoid WLI in pregnancy.

Semaglutide has been used to treat diabetes for almost a decade. Being honest, if the drug wasn't being used for weight loss and purely for diabetics, would you be worrying about them using the drug prescribed by their doctor?

Not only are you told to not use WLI if you are, or are trying to get, pregnant you're also warned about the effects WLI have on oral contraceptives.
Comparing WLI to thalidomide is nothing but goady nonsense though. It's because of the damage thalidomide did that the warnings are so strong for newish medications.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 06/08/2025 14:49

Holmints · 06/08/2025 09:46

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

I was, up until about 8 months ago, obese. I loved my body. I didn't go round shouting "I love my body" because I'm not a social media influencer and normal people don't really do that.

But I did love it, it enabled me to go out and do the things I loved, it felt good when DP touched it, I wasn't upset by how it looked, in fact I thought I was fairly attractive, and so did DP (I was fat when I met her, so it can't have been that much of a turn off.)

But just because I didn't hate my body, didn't mean I didn't know it was unhealthy for me to be that weight. Had there been a magic wand to instantly make me a healthy weight, I'd have weighed it in an instant, because while I loved my body, I also love not being dead. Apparently not enough to do anything about it though

Just before Christmas, I got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. Not prediabetes, proper full blown you are making permanent unreversible changes to yourself diabetes. So I promptly made massive lifestyle changes, stopped eating crap, and lost 50lb. I'm now a healthy weight, my blood sugar is in the normal range, and if I can keep it that way for the next year then I'll officially be in remission.

I still love my body, no more or less than I did before. Aside from the little black spot in my vision that's going to be there for the rest of my life, that bits a little fucker.

But I don't look back at photos of myself from last year and hate my body from back then. I hate my laziness a little bit, my willingness to eat crap for years and years with little thought to the consequences. I hate my mind a little bit, but my body, I've always loved it.

Arraminta · 06/08/2025 14:46

goldenquestion · 06/08/2025 13:44

The thing I can NEVER get my head around is why people who don't take WLI, have any interest in the topic.

I've never smoked, so never had the desire to go and tell smokers trying to quit that the medication they are using to aid this is dangerous. If Mounjaro had never been rolled out for weight loss and the very same drug was just being used to treat diabetes, would people be going out of their way to tell diabetics of the dangers?

It's utterly bizarre!

No, of course they wouldn't lecture diabetics about the possible dangers of taking Mounjaro just for their diabetes (and there can certainly be negative/dangerous side effects doing that).

No, they would (sensibly) assume that overall, the benefits of the diabetic taking Mounjaro hugely outweighed any negative side effects. After all, Mounjaro has been thoroughly and extensively researched, and successfully trialled over decades, right? And it has massively improved the health and well being of millions of diabetics, yes?

But the second it's discovered that the very same thoroughly researched, tried & tested, life saving, life enhancing Mounjaro can also <whispers> help you lose weight........then suddenly it's a risky, probably dangerous, filthy drug, that people 'are pumping into themselves'.

Hilarious.

SomeOfTheTrouble · 06/08/2025 14:45

sweetpickle2 · 06/08/2025 14:45

Your poor friend.

With friends like those, who needs enemies eh?

LavenderBlue19 · 06/08/2025 14:45

zaazaazoom · 06/08/2025 12:11

Honestly as an overweight person I do admire people who are slim ans toned at my age. It takes discipline and work to maintain a good level of fitness and not succumb to eating too much.

I'm not sure it does, for some. The slimness, at least. My best mate has always been slim (known her since we were teens, now mid-40s) and says she doesn't really get hungry. She doesn't think about food other than the practicalities of needing to feed herself for energy to do things. She's only just recently started exercising regularly - running - because she says it's a nice break from the kids 😂She's just not really interested in food. I think a lot of slim people are like that, to greater or lesser extent.

SwingTheMonkey · 06/08/2025 14:45

Goatymum · 06/08/2025 14:38

But it's still not making a healthy choice is it and I'm sure you are supposed to rethink your way of eating otherwise you come off and put the weight back on.
Also, it's not just about cals, it's about nutrition too.

No, it’s about making sustainable changes. It’s perfectly fine to go out for dinner and have whatever the bloody hell you want, if you’ve allocated the calories. Depriving one’s self of any food they find delicious, forever, isn’t going to work. Still, at least you and your other friends were able to feel superior, eating your salads. That must have cheered you up.

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