Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

Its your post that doesnt make sense.

I already said that they want people constantly dieting - to buy all the diet products.

I feel like every woman i know is using something to try and diet

And a lot of the diet things do not work. The woman buys more and more, keeping her in a perpetual cycle of dieting.

I was over weight and I literally loathed myself, depressed, wore the same clothes in summer that I did in winter. Started the jabs and I’m so much more happier. I honestly never understood overweight people saying theh loved their body and size I was absolutely miserable. Maybe I’m missing something

Right. So why do they apparently want everyone skinny and constantly dieting if more revenue is made from treating the obese?

There’s not a lot of critical thinking going on here - which is usually the case with conspiracy theorists!

Lots of people present things as fact. Doesn't make them so.

Also - in the case of WLI - what is the conspiracy? I've started taking them and they have rapidly altered the way my body processes and reacts to food...as Big Pharma told me it would...

Yes.

I disagree with the word "theory" as I know people who have worked in the pharmaceutical industry and they have told me it as fact

One woman i know told me that she had to leave the industry as she couldnt cope with the level of lying and corruption

Don’t you think they make a vast amount more money selling the drugs used to treat obesity related illnesses?!

By constantly making huge money from selling diet products

Erm, this response is the literal definition of a conspiracy theory.

Don’t you think pharmaceutical companies would benefit more from people being fat?!

How are pharmaceutical companies going to benefit from a slim, healthy populace?

They don't. Some loud obnoxious fatfluencers are not "everyone". Most overweight people are happy to say they hate being fat or at least dislike it and admit it is unhealthy, because it is.

But probably the average fat person won't say such things to you, a total stranger.

Its not a wild conspiracy theory in any shape or form.

Don't be naive.

I know several people who used to work in pharmaceutical industries.

They told me that everything is twisted in healthcare.

At the moment, a lot of healthcare is set up to hurt us, not help us.

They told me that so many lies are told to the public about health to get them to think a certain way, and to get them to buy things.

I tip into pre-diabetes at 11 stone and 5'7. That's how dangerous being even slightly overweight is for some people. My GP is not trying to control me by giving me the data.

I've noticed the breathlessness, for example on a radio phone in you can tell who is overweight because they are out of breath just from the effort of talking!

Who says I am not?

You didn't ask.

That’s some wild conspiracy theory! Do you feel overly paranoid about other things?

It’s a scientific fact, unfortunately, that fat isn’t healthy. And obesity does increase one’s chance of developing diabetes, high blood pressure and certain cancers, among other things.

You could just put the weight back on if you felt better and want to question the system?

I really enjoyed being "fat".

I found that I had more strength. I felt better. I felt happier. I felt more cosy and warm as I had more padding.

I lost the weight as i got scared by the media telling me that being overweight - causes weight related illnesses.

Now I feel physically worse. I feel weak , cold and I feel that i don' t have as much strength. I think that fat can actually help the body in many ways. Similiar to how an overweight baby is much healthier than an underweight baby.

I think that people can be healthy at many different weights. I dont think that we have to be thin to be healthy.

I am a bit "question" the system type of person

I think maybe the system keeps telling us to be thin, to keep people in a constant cycle of dieting.

The stress of this makes people more mentally weak And stressed. And it makes them easier to control.

Disagree. I actually like the aesthetics of being fat and the curves etc. I’ve got a big belly, not just t&a. My partner loves it also. You are not in a position to know what everyone likes. I do not however like the breathlessness being fat brings.

Yes, that's fair. For me the consideration is more social than anything, but that's another matter. My health parameters haven't crossed into a zone where I have to give them serious attention, though I know it would be ideal healthwise to weigh a bit less. My only actual issue is the number on the scale not being what says 'ideal'.

You can love your body and be happy with your appearance as an overweight person but also see the health benefits of losing weight, and love you appearance just as much as a slimmer person. Body positivity isn't about loving 'being fat' it's about seeing your body in a positive way, focusing on its positive points (aesthetically and functionally) whatever size it is.

Yeah, this. Of course noone should be shamed for their body and its noone else's business how much anyone else weighs but the glorifying and crowing about "curvy" when really it was being morbidly obese was a flat out dangerous lie.

Having worked in healthcare I have seen first hand the health issues that come with severe obesity and it's nothing to be glorified. It has made many people's lives unbearable. In my opinion, it's no different to glorifying and shouting about how wonderful smoking is. It just isnt.

My point is really that you keep saying you wouldn’t take them as you like to assess the risks/take minimal medication etc, when actually your risk vs reward calculation is very different to those of us who are (were) actually obese. It’s like me saying that I wouldn’t take the risk of taking anti depressants, when I’m not clinically depressed.

The way things stand, I also plan on being on them for life, if I'm able to. I have absolutely 0 desire to go back to a life controlled by food - whether that's restricting what I'm eating or overconsuming.

@bigyawn Do you think the people taking WLI haven't gone through the exact same thought process as you? You say you might consider them if you had weight-related ill health... that's going to be the case for a lot of people! Your BMI is close to but under 30 - when mine was that low I wouldn't have considered them either. The risk doesn't outweigh the benefit.

Of course some people take them when they shouldn't. You can't stop people if they want to and don't understand or care about the risks. But from what I've read extensively around the subject, most people are taking them for obesity and weight-related ill health, not vanity. There are many medications with side effects which people take because it's worth it overall.