Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

In which country was this? As thats an incredibly serious allegation.

Oh so this one source that doesn't represent your view, I should disregard and focus on ones that do? Got it 👌

How will the doctor confirm with the pharma company that they've prescribed their medication then? Or are they just taking their word for it? If so, no need for the doctor to prescribe anything unnecessary surely? Just tell the pharma company they've done 1,000 scripts a day of their meds

Exactly ! I hope WLIs help alot of people. Especially those people whose support system consists mainly of people whose best advice is 'just stop eating/drinking'

That is one source. I picked one at random

There are hundreds of sources online.

It is a corrupt industry.

What you are writing doesnt make sense.

The doctor does not need to disclose the patients information to anyone else.

The doctor receives a payment from pharma companies to promote and prescribe a certain drug.

In one article online it says "the hidden payments raise questions about conflicts of interest, as many doctors prescribe medications without declaring the money that they have personally received from pharmaceutical companies:

From your own source:

Two thirds of the £340.3 million (£229.3 million) was spent on research and development activities, such as clinical trials, for which information is already disclosed through European clinical trial regulation and transparency policies.
The remaining £111.0m was paid to individual healthcare professionals and organisations for other activities, such as service and consultancy work (£46.0m), registration fees and associated travel and accommodation costs (£14.8m), contributions for events (£31.4m), donations and grants (£30.3m) and to fund joint working arrangements with the NHS (£3.3m).

I'm not naïve, nothing comes up under that search term that remotely relates to what you're saying.

A singular GP prescribing an unneeded medication to a patient in exchange for cash from a pharmaceutical company - during which they must have disclosed the patients medical records to a private company without authorisation from the patient - would not only be front page news in the UK, it would have resulted in said doctor being struck off. So why not share their name, so we can check GMC records?

Many decades ago?

I am looking through all the many many articles online about doctors accepting money from pharma companies.

There is a news articl from 2021 stating that UK GP presctiption patterns were found to be "consistent with a profit motive"

Are we talking about a totally different time and/or place Pamelanoon?

Because that did used to go on in the UK but many decades ago, before WLIs came on the market so really not applicable here.

You are so naive it is scary

It certainly did happen.

There were even news articles about it at the time. Which are still online.

Search for "Doctors receiving money from pharmaceutical industries"

And given the fact that WLIs are now recognised as being useful to treat other addictions like alcoholism, that tracks!

Also it’s too simplistic to say ‘you stop taking them, weight goes on‘ because there are different types of weight gain/obesity. Some people struggle with weight all their lives for myriad reasons (hormonal, lifestyle, upbringing, mental health, genetics) and for those people staying on WLIs might be the best course of action. For me, I’ve been a healthy weight most of my life until two pregnancies, PND, lockdown, losing a parent. I then found it very difficult to find the motivation to tackle the weight gain because it felt like such a long way to go to where I had been.

Now I’m back at a healthy weight again, I don’t feel like I need the support of WLIs as they were to get me back to a destination I’ve been at most of my life.

"Serial name changer" ..like that's a bad thing?

Of course I am a serial name chamger. Everyone is on here.

The name change function was brought in to stop people bringing up items from other threads and using old threads to abuse people.

You also are a serial name changer, I am sure.

I haven't used Mounjaro though. I am not particularly interested in it. I was talking about diet products in general on this thread.

I wasnt thinking about mounjaro when i wrote it. I was thinking about the many many diet products on the market. Teas, supplements, drinks, diet gummies etc

Another poster on this thread brought up the topic of weight loss injections

This is a bit of a small minded comment. Are you obese? Im guessing not, as you felt comfortable making that assumption. Obesity is widely considered to be similar to alcoholism or drug use. It is a disease. Alot of it is about how your brain and hormones react to the food you put in your body and the momentary 'high' it gives you to indulge. Much like drug users or alcoholics, you know its bad for you and you feel a bit guilty, but in it goes nevertheless because its like an addiction. 'Eat less and move more' is great advice, until it isn't. 'Dont drink alcohol' is great advice to give someone with an alcohol problem, does that help them to put the bottle down?

What about my post where I told you that didn't happen. It's not possible for a pharma company to know which drugs your doctor has prescribed.

What about the other part of my post, that you very conveniently left out?

I said that we found out that my mother's doctor received a payment from the pharmaceutical companies - to prescribe certain drugs.

I stopped the jabs in March and have lost 5 extra lbs since then, but I have totally changed lifestyle and diet. I work out cardio and/or strength training every day on top of 10k+ steps, I’ve heavily reduced carbs, I’m much more aware of balancing intake over the course of a day or week. But I wouldn’t have had the motivation to keep me going for 5.5 stone worth of calorie deficit without the jabs.

Not feeling hungry allowed me the time and headspace to put new habits in place and get them totally ingrained and now that’s my new norm I suppose. That’s just the way I eat now, but WLIs gave me the time and ability to make those changes.

You can have a normal reading and still have Hypertension on average. You can even have a LOW reading and still have Hypertension overall.

One normal reading does not = not having dangerous hypertension!

You're just telling us that you don't have the most basic of understanding about how these things work.

Don’t waste your time. Serial name changer who loves to wind people up. They’ve also used MJ themselves.

My HRT stops working if I stop taking that too
My partners psych meds stop working if they stop taking them too
Epilepsy meds stop working if you stop taking them.
Painkillers stop working if you stop taking them.

So why start?

It's such a stupid question how are you not embarrassed?

Why is this only ever an arguement about meds that support normal appetite regulation? (You don't need to answer, we all know why! We hear and see you!)

Because people that make things up about things they know nothing about to bolster their point, are irritating.

I'm not twisting your words - you said you don't know the ins and outs of every drug, Mounjaro clearly being one that falls into this category and yet have made multiple (wrong) statements about its use and efficacy.

Re your mums doctor prescribing pills for profit - drug reps can come to meetings to tell dr's about their medications - might bring lunch/biros along for free - but that has no relation to whether or not a doctor chooses to prescribe them or not. “Certain drugs” will be allowed according to NICE guidelines/local formularies, the individual doctor can choose according to that, but wouldn’t ever get paid by a drug company according to which one they were or were not prescribing!! Pharma companies wouldn’t even know which doctor was/wasn’t using what…

In the NHS at least…. Not sure why you’d need to go private just for your BP though!

I've been on the jabs for a long time now, and have taken weight loss breaks and not re-gained any weight by taking tiny doses spread out.

I don't love my body thin so I've stopped losing and maintained for months at a time to adjust mentally to my smaller shape, then when I've been ready I've started losing again.

One of the huge advantages of the jab is that if you use it for maintenance, it supports maintenance! Not just weight loss

In stark contrast to the likes of WW who would never support me to maintain unless I was at the very bottom of normal BMI, close to under weight!

Yeah if you lose too fast you won't sustain it but that's the same for any type of weight loss. The difference the jab makes for me, compared to traditional weight loss/maintenance plans, is that it's adjustable and flexible, Vs traditional plans where you're either on the wagon, or off it

But I'm sure someone who has never needed it will be along shortly to tell me I lie, or tell of a rare exception, and everyone they know who has used it gained it all back and then some

Well maybe that's cause the success stories wouldn't dare confidence in the likes of you, that they're doing very well on it, and have been for quite some time!

Dont twist my words.

I said i dont know the ins and outs of every drug. None of us do. It wouldnt be possible.

I said i do know what was said to me by people i know in the pharma industry about how corrupt the pharmaceutical system is. It is all profit profit profit.

Why are you so angry by the way?

You’ve lost me here. What do you mean why take it in the first place?