Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

i didn’t hear the other 216s responses. But even if they all agreed with the BMJs findings, I’d say it still doesn’t prove that your mums doctor lied about her diagnosis to be paid cash by a pharmaceutical company

I was looking online. I see that Novo nordisk (the maker of Ozempic and wegovy) got intotrouble AGAIN, after the time that they were suspended for bad practice

A news article from january 2025 says:

The company behind popular weight-loss drugs failed to disclose even more money it paid to healthcare groups and patient organisations , a pharmaceutical watchdog has said.
Novo Nordisk - which manufactures Wegovy, Ozempic and Saxenda - misreported, under-reported or did not disclose funding it gave to pharmacy firms, obesity charities and other professional bodies, according to the Prescription Medicines Code of Practice Authority (PMCPA).

But there's lots of us out there who get un-fat, and are more unhappy than ever.

Bariatric surgery makes some people suicidal! There can be a huge psychological toll to weight LOSS.

Thing is you have to already love yourself in order to commence deliberate weight loss (in a healthy way), you gotta start from a place of kindness to yourself. It's too hard to even start if you're not there. So why is it so hard to believe fat people who say they're feelin' themselves big, who THEN go on to lose weight.

If you like yourself you are more likely to take care of yourself. And that does mean not being obese. But the motivator isn't necessarily hating yourself and your body when big.

Wholeheartedly agree. I cannot wrap my head around anyone liking being fat. It makes life so much more difficult.

This. What’s good about it? Its heavy to carry around, wears your body down as you age, stops you doing things that are enjoyable, causes chaffing and pain and, eventually, possible disability and early death. There is literally nothing good about it.

The report says that the BMJ investigated 217 trusts, and 1 trust said that the findings were not accurate.

What are your thoughts on the other 216 trusts?

@pamelanoon are you obese or diabetic

Yes I think it’s a wonder drug because the results speak for themselves.

Being a commodity doesn’t make it less effective. Sky TV is pretty heavily advertised, it still does what they say it does.

Yes my quote came after that section, as you’ll have seen. So one source said there were payments, one said they didn’t recognise that to be accurate. Neither say those payments were directly to doctors for a per script payment.

Does anyone have any thoughts on how the pharma company paid 22 millipn pounds to healthcare professionals in the UK, to promote Ozempic in the UK?

Do you still think it is a wonder drug.

A lot of the hype came from the marketing of it

The BMJ tracked all disclosed non-research payments to NHS trusts in England from 2015 to 2022 reported in Disclosure UK, a database run by the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (ABPI), which requires participating companies to disclose cash payments and other benefits in kind to healthcare professionals and organisations.

In total, there were 58,302 payments worth £156,882,790 made to 217 NHS trusts, which make up a fifth of the value of all payments to healthcare organisations listed in the database, such as general practices, commissioning bodies, professional societies and medical schools.

God you are always leaving out parts. I didnt say that what you said about the weight management course is wrong.

This is the part that you were wrong about

You wrote

"No mention of doctors being paid per incorrect pill here".

When the article states that it found that the pharmaceutcial company paid UK healthcare professsionals 22 million to promote Ozempic.

So there WAS mention of people being paid to promote a drug. That is a serious conflict of interest

The BMJ approached trusts for more detail but few were able to explain the purpose behind these payments. Some trusts said they found mistakes in the data, but would not provide more detail. Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust in London said it did not “recognise these figures as accurate.”

Here is a link to another news article. It says

"Pharmaceutical companies have paid an unexplainrled 156 million pounds to NHS trusts between 2015 and 2022. The findings raise important questions about unrecognised conflicts of interest'.

bmjgroup.com/investigation-finds-unexplained-millions-in-drug-industry-payments-to-the-nhs/#:~:text=Investigation%20finds%20%E2%80%9Cunexplained%E2%80%9D%20millions%20in%20drug%20industry%20payments%20to%20the%20NHS,-Many%20trusts%20didn&text=Pharmaceutical%20companies%20have%20paid%20an,investigation%20by%20The%20BMJ%20today.

How can copying and pasting the section of the article that literally precedes the words “breached the code of practice” be wrong.

the part you’ve added STILL doesn’t say doctors are being paid per (incorrect) script by this company, or any other. What they did do was wrong, hence the action taken, but it ain’t what you claim your mums doctor did.

can you please give me the doctors name so I can check what date they were struck off for breaching your mums privacy.

No you are wrong.

The weight management course was the reason they were suspended from an accredited pharma organisation. (Which was also found to be corrupt)

That was just one part of the news article.

The article AlSO says that they were found to have paid 22 million to UK healthcare professionals to "promote Ozempic in the UK"

That is a serious conflict of interest.

The association noted that the company had sponsored a free weight management course for healthcare professionals, which it found was a "disguised" large-scale promotional campaign that breached the association's code of practice

the article literally tells you why. No mention of doctors being paid per (incorrect) pill here

Yes it does.

So why were they suspended for bad practice then?

Are you saying that their behaviour is okay?

I literally posted a news article that says EXACTLY what I said.

This includes payments such as consultancy fees, expenses for attending medical conferences and meetings, and donations and sponsorships paid to healthcare organisations.

This STILL doesn't say what you think it does.

There are no news articles that say what you're saying. That's why I'm aggressive, spreading misinformation and falsehoods is unfair and can be dangerous.

The news articles say that Pharma companies give money to NHS trusts (as well as individual healthcare workers) but no mention whatsoever that this is in exchange for prescribing specific drugs.

And as you've now been told repeatedly, a doctor doing this would lose their job.

Here is one such incident (of many) that happened in the UK.

An investigation found that Novo Nordisk , which makes Ozempic, paid 22 million to healthcare professionals in the UK to "boost its UK presence".

Novo nordisk were also suspended by the association of the british pharmaceutical industry for two years, for breaching its code of practice relating to promotional activites

www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2023/0507/1381110-obesity-experts-consultancy-fees/

It goes on everywhere. It happens in the UK too. There are many UK reports about it.

Do a quick google search. I will one link for you in the next post.

The rest i am sure that you can look up yourself

Why are you so aggressive

It does represent my view. I never said it doesnt represent my view. I was stating that there are hundreds more articles about this online.

As a poster wrote to me that this doesnt happen at all.

And i thought "how can she possibly be so naiive". There are so many reports and news articles about this.

UK apparently, happens all the time. No word yet on why they weren't in the paper or struck off by the GMC