Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

Just one that actually shows DOCTORS are being BRIBED will do.

Im not dim. You are just rude.

I have already provided several.

How many more do you want?

Yep

This type of medication has already been around and in use for YEARS.

We already know about the risks and side effects, and thus how to balance them with the risks of remaining obese. We already know the side effects after YEARS of them being reported on, and as such can chose to use WLIs in sensible ways that minimise and mitigate the side effects. (There are always groups that abuse anything, see for example: FOOD!)

Do not speak at us like we're bloody teenagers insisting that vaping is FINE because none of our friends got sick from them YET.

Most users of WLIs are WELL into adult hood. They're extremely popular amongst menopausal women. Who for the most part aren't idiots or naive children!

If you're not dim then you're doing a fabulous impersonation of being so.

Was your <cough> degree <cough> in Applied Conspiracy Theory?

And yet, you've yet to be able to find any instances of this to support your point.

Absolutely no way have you got a first class degree and can't understand how to cite an accurate source. I believe that as much as I believe the claim about your mums mythical doctor.

That's so true, you can do easily be a little home body when you're invisibly fat. People don't even remember you enough to decide to not invite you when you're un-fun shaped, so you don't even have to make excuses. You can be in your cosy bubble.

E.g. I worked in an office that had a monthly wine and nibbles night where people who had left the office had a catch up with people who were still there. I HAD been there when the people who left used to work there. Never got invited. Made plenty of small talk about it "oh how is X doing in her new job?" Etc..

I was never invited. I didn't actually mind I was able to cop out, no drama.

When I LOST weight, then it got awkward:
Are you coming? You never come, you should come this time!
No I'm not invited
OF COURSE YOU ARE
Nope
YES YOU ARE
I'm not in the chat, check.
Why did you leave? I'll re add you
I didn't leave, I was never added
YES YOU WERE IM SURE YOU WERE, I've re added you so you have to come next time

And now, I don't WANT to go on principle!

Yes they do go around bribing doctors.

There are many reported instances.

Any ‘effect’ of the jabs (which btw have been used by the NHS for years) will be hugely outweighed by the health benefits of not being obese or overweight.

It’s crazy to think the right option is to remain overweight or obese because one might be worried about a side effect of the jabs. Remaining fat out of choice is in reality a choice of massively increasing your probability of serious ill health. There is hardly a single illness which isn’t more likely if you are overweight.

The risk of getting breast cancer, for example, is hugely affected by being overweight. It’s almost the single biggest factor - along with smoking and drinking. It’s not just about living longer - it’s about living a well life without chronic illnesses.

I am not dim at all. How low of you to resort to calling someone stupid.

The 1.1 grade that I achieved in my Bachelors degree makes me know that I am not dim at all.

People who don't LIKE themselves don't spend £££s on themselves and their own wellbeing by buying WLIs,

You have to have high hopes for yourself to have a long and happy life if you're investing that kinda cash in yourself and your longevity!

If I was SOOOO miserable fat, why would I say "I want to stick around and live this life of mine for as long as I can"?

Sorry for the thread ambush. I have a lot of feelings on this subject. Just be glad you didn't try me on this in person right now!

Very true - when I was fat I protected myself from humiliation because I didn’t go anything socially

when I was normal weight I put myself out there more and therefore was much more bullying humiliation cuz I wasn’t streetwise

Very true - when I was fat I protected myself from humiliation because I didn’t go anything socially

when I was normal weight I put myself out there more and therefore was much more bullying humiliation cuz I wasn’t streetwise

And all the while, as I'm more angry inside, people still like me MORE.

When I was happier inside but fat, every question was met with an eye roll, my contributions to conversation were read as annoying, boring, even aggressive..

Now that I AM actually feeling a bit aggressive, and do even MEAN to be rude at times, I'm listened to, taken seriously, and appreciated for what I have to say

It's infuriating.

And then all the people telling us (ex fatties) how much HAPPIER we are now ARGH! 😤

I'm happy to be healthier and to reduce my risk of dying on my family

I'm happy to be able to shop ethically in line with my environmental concerns: 2nd hand and eco brands i much more accessible for certain sizes. I don't have to buy fast fashion brands, and yes I did HAVE to, f* off anyone who thinks it's a choice over a certain size!

I'm happy about the other side effects of WLIs: focus, cured caffeine addiction, pain relief

I'm happy that WLIs take away the noise that was preventing me from taking my time with food prep so I can role model healthy lifestyles to my family.

But please fcking fCK off telling me and everyone else that I only like MYSELF this way!!!!!

I'm the same damn person I was when you looked at me and only saw "SAD FAT LADY" and losing weight has not been the most interesting thing I've done in life, not is it my biggest achievement!

There are so many facets around the psychological impact of losing weight.

Going from invisible to men to once again on their radar, is NOT a positive for everyone.

Fat is a protective layer, not just biologically and evolutionary wise, but also psychologically and socially. It's literally a buffer.

When you lose weight and lose that buffer you have to deal more with aspects of yourself and society that you might have been able to avoid when fat.

The reasons why people said they were happy to be fat go beyond a bit of body positivity marketing. Unless you don't think that fat people are capable of being complex and complicated multifaceted individuals.

When you've experienced the same people as a fat person and then as a thin person... A fairly large percentage of them become less likable the more they like YOU as you shrink!

When you met them as a fat person it's not so bad, you just think, maybe I'm not the best candidate to be coached for promotion or maybe I'm just not interesting to them.

Shrink though, and THEY become ugly in how they change towards you. Suddenly you're viewed as more hard working and the right man for the job, or seen as more likely to be up for fun invites.

This is just one of the ways that I'm not lying when I say I WAS happy fat. And also I love WLIs for leveling the physical / health playing field

Being happy about mounjaro doesn't mean she wasn't happy being fat!

One doesn't disprove the other
I never disliked MYSELF or MY BODY fat. I prefer it fat to skinny in fact.

It's the other aspects of being fat I don't like: the health implications, the bias at work, having to consume a lot of fast fashions just to have basics that fit etc

But not myself and my actual body

I'm probably nicer too, being thin makes me a bit ragey because people really show their fat phobe face to you. Getting more respect at work makes me angry not flattered. Aquaintances treating me like losing weight is the most interesting thing I've done in my life ...
.. I think I interact better with the world when I'm actually fat, and ppl are less overt (not less obvious, just less overt) about their fat phobias. When thin I'm biting back left right n centre at it.

can you imagine...

"oh yeah we cured cancer in 1974, but we didn't want to brag"

It's a revelation isn't it? Presumably @pamelanoon thinks that pharmaceutical companies should invest billions in developing, researching and manufacturing drugs and then not tell a single soul about it.

Yes, that is quite literally what @pamelanoon thinks they do. Bribed her mums doctor to wrongly diagnose her in order to prescribe meds she didn't need.

BIG SOFTWARE is out to get us too, careful now.

Every single drug being prescribed has, at some point, been marketed to HCPs, by the pharmaceutical company that manufactured it. That's thousands of medicines that actually work and enhance and save billions of lives, irrespective of how they're marketed.

This. What do you think pharma sales reps do - go around bribing doctors? Or any other sales reps for that matter - I had one trying to sell me a new software solution, does this mean the solution is evil?

What do you mean its not just a bunch of Statisticians and Scientists in lab coats plotting world domination by BIG PHARMA 😂

The have Sales Reps??? 😉I did wonder how the multi billion drug development pipeline manages to sustain itself.

So, you actually want to come across as being rather dim and woefully ignorant about the topic we're discussing? Weird? Fine, but Weird?

Every single drug being prescribed has, at some point, been marketed to HCPs, by the pharmaceutical company that manufactured it. That's thousands of medicines that actually work and enhance and save billions of lives, irrespective of how they're marketed.

It's almost like you don't understand that we live in a capitalist society.