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To not even bother packing - Chickenpox?

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Eyeofthelamp · 13/07/2025 10:22

My son was sent home from school on Thursday with the dreaded pox. He’s absolutely fine, but we’re due to
go on holiday in just over a week. I know I can get a fit to fly note before we go, BUT my little girl hasn’t had pox yet. She currently shows no sign of getting them but she will, won’t she? I know I can’t cancel our holiday due to exposure, but I also don’t want to go with the impending risk of her getting them abroad and then being stuck in another country for a week on my own, whilst my husband and son have to
go home.

If we cancel we stand to lose £4.5k, but I just can’t bring myself to even start packing. AIBU? What would you do in these circumstances? I’m feeling pretty crap as this is our only chance to get away this year due to other commitments, so it would be another full year without a holiday if we can’t go 😔

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ARichtGoodDram · 13/07/2025 15:04

What’s that got to do with the dangerously false information given by the doctor 2 years ago?

He wasn't giving "dangerously false information" - saying they didn't give it because they believed it was risky for adults was the thinking at the time. That's exactly the same as the advice would have been in the UK 2 years ago if that poster had asked.

CountryQueen · 13/07/2025 14:41

bluebirdbonanza · 13/07/2025 14:23

Where I live it’s called University hospital, there are a couple of them and they would be the main ones just as @Caspianberg says. We’re not all in the UK. Our main one is ranked one of the best in the world, and they would not recommend to vaccinate children for chicken pox either.

Of the top 10 ranked university hospitals, karolinska, Berlin, Zurich…all recommend the chickenpox vaccine for children.

elliejjtiny · 13/07/2025 14:31

Caspianberg · 13/07/2025 11:33

@CountryQueen - he’s one of the top children’s doctors in the country. Luckily hes within 30min drive as he’s the leading allergy specialist also. So going against him would mean we couldn’t use for allergy stuff either. It’s not just him, I looked at reports in the city from vaccine specialist and they still don’t recommend here at all unless child is immune compromised etc. as like I say they said the chances that that child will be vaccinated every 10 years the rest of life is slim, and a 50 year old with chickenpox is worse than a 5 year old.
So you would have to strike off every doctor in country as none of them will
give it willingly

Our paediatrician said exactly the same thing when i asked about the chicken pox vaccine.

Sandsnake · 13/07/2025 14:29

Good luck! It worked for us when we got 3yo DS vaccinated two days after heavy exposure. We were also due on holiday. Hope that it stays away and you enjoy your holiday!

bluebirdbonanza · 13/07/2025 14:23

CountryQueen · 13/07/2025 12:58

He was wrong even 2 years ago. Also, “the main hospital in the country”?!

Where I live it’s called University hospital, there are a couple of them and they would be the main ones just as @Caspianberg says. We’re not all in the UK. Our main one is ranked one of the best in the world, and they would not recommend to vaccinate children for chicken pox either.

Plantladylover · 13/07/2025 14:12

Don't cancel.

If she gets it just before you are due to fly, see your GP who will give you a not fit to fly note. you can then claim on your travel insurance.

If she doesn't develop it in the next week or so I would just go.

Allswellthatendswelll · 13/07/2025 14:07

DS got spots on the Friday but was back at nursery following Thursday so might all be fine if you can stop the little one from getting it by luck or vaccine. He wasn't even that grotty with it to be honest.

mrssunshinexxx · 13/07/2025 13:29

Get her in for private injection at local boots or pharmacy today / tomorrow after first vax they are 90% covered

CountryQueen · 13/07/2025 13:25

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

The OP has booked an appointment for tomorrow

CountryQueen · 13/07/2025 13:25

ARichtGoodDram · 13/07/2025 13:02

He was wrong even 2 years ago. Also, “the main hospital in the country”?!

The JCVI recommendation in the Uk was only made in Nov 23, so even then in the UK it wasn't being recommended officially, unless you had health issues, because of the shingles fears.

What’s that got to do with the dangerously false information given by the doctor 2 years ago?

MelvinThePenguin · 13/07/2025 13:24

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ARichtGoodDram · 13/07/2025 13:22

GRex · 13/07/2025 13:12

You've misunderstood this, it has been explained but perhaps you missed it. The concern was about adults getting chickenpox due to not getting exposed and catching chickenpox as a child; people can ONLY get shingles if they have had chickenpox. JCVI have explained for many years that vaccine hesitancy was the issue and not the vaccine.

I haven't misunderstood anything. In 2009 the JCVI recommended against a UK wide vaccination programme due to the studies at the time suggesting it could lead to an increase risk of shingles in adults.

This was their stance until 2023 when they changed it to say that the new studies proved that not to be the case and it was now recommended.

GRex · 13/07/2025 13:12

You've misunderstood this, it has been explained but perhaps you missed it. The concern was about adults getting chickenpox due to not getting exposed and catching chickenpox as a child; people can ONLY get shingles if they have had chickenpox. JCVI have explained for many years that vaccine hesitancy was the issue and not the vaccine.

ARichtGoodDram · 13/07/2025 13:02

He was wrong even 2 years ago. Also, “the main hospital in the country”?!

The JCVI recommendation in the Uk was only made in Nov 23, so even then in the UK it wasn't being recommended officially, unless you had health issues, because of the shingles fears.

Caspianberg · 13/07/2025 13:00

@CountryQueen - yes. Like equivalent to Great Ormond street hospital in London. You would call that one of the main children’s hospitals in England wouldn’t you? Not like Margate A and E.

CountryQueen · 13/07/2025 12:58

Caspianberg · 13/07/2025 12:18

@CountryQueen - erm he is. We were referred to him by the main hospital in the country after Ds had a serious allergic reaction as a baby. He’s a regular paediatric doctor.

I have said I last asked around 2 years ago, so maybe it’s changed recently and I will ask again.

He was wrong even 2 years ago. Also, “the main hospital in the country”?!

netflixfan · 13/07/2025 12:51

Ah that happened to us. DD2 came out with it 2 weeks to the day after DD1. Little one was so ill. We went later in the summer but it wasn’t the original hotel sadly. Poor you.

Overthebow · 13/07/2025 12:51

I’d also suggest between now and your holiday keep dd out of the house away from ds as much as possible. It’s not a given she’ll catch it.

Caspianberg · 13/07/2025 12:49

@GRex - not Uk. Someone above said the recommendation changed in Nov 23. I last asked around 2 years ago. So like I said, I will ask him again now in case the recommendations have changed. We have an appointment for a different vaccine in Sept so I will see then

GRex · 13/07/2025 12:41

Caspianberg · 13/07/2025 11:51

@GRex - it is proper doctor. He’s a paediatrician. Which is who everyone uses for children 0-18 where I live. He’s attached to the local hospital. Exactly same as a NHS equivalent.
its not a quack doctor

Sorry, what country are you in? In UK you would need to report him to the GMC for giving erroneous advice if this is true, because doctors are actually obliged to give truthful information. Perhaps there is a different standard where you are.

AliceMcK · 13/07/2025 12:40

I was in a similar position with my older DDs. My youngest at the time 2yo got them the day we left, we literally saw the first spot as we were boarding. Luckily I’d preempted it happening given my oldest had just had them and packed all the appropriate lotions and potions just in case. For the most part it was fine, we did our best to keep her cool, lots of ice lollies, shade calpol. We even managed to get some oaks and kept a bowl of cool water we just kept adding ice too so we could cool her down with the milk from the oats. Hardest part was no air con in the south of France and night times, but once she was asleep she managed to stay that way.

it certainly wasn’t the holiday we planned but it worked.

also, she may not get them, my youngest has been exposed dozens of times and never got them.

GRex · 13/07/2025 12:34

theduchessoftintagel · 13/07/2025 11:55

I live in Kent and over last six months I've been checking regularly, neither Boots or Superdrug offer it anywhere near us and I can't find anywhere else that does either. I would have to travel by train so that means easiest would be to go to London, twice. Maybe OP has a similar issue.

Canterbury Boots has appointments from Wednesday this week. I don't know exactly where you are, but worth calling a store if there isn't availability and they can order in for you or suggest a location.

lljkk · 13/07/2025 12:34

I would factor in these things:

the 2 yr old is likely to come out with spots 13-14 days after spots appeared on the boy.
My kids were not very ill with CP. We could still go out & do stuff away from other people (walks in the woods, etc.). We never stayed home completely, it wasn't in anyone's best interests.
CP stops being contagious abt 5 days after spots appear (or whatever latest advice says).
If I could basically go places & stay away from other people on the holiday if she did get CP, like still go in a private villa pool or enjoy parks, beach, hilly walks.

Because maybe your planned holiday would not require close contact with anyone or travelling on days when likely to be contagious.

bluebirdbonanza · 13/07/2025 12:29

Theunamedcat · 13/07/2025 10:41

Well my eldest son had it and as he shared a bath and occasionally a bed with his younger brother we all assumed he had it too I spoke to nursery and said he will be off....no spots no symptoms big brother went back to school he returned to nursery for almost two weeks THEN he came down with chicken pox

It was strange

Incubation time is 2 weeks.

Eyeofthelamp · 13/07/2025 12:29

Oldlady62 · 13/07/2025 12:24

You will be asked if any recent exposure and will be advised against. It's also 2 doses 4 weeks apart .

It is 70 - 100% effective after the first dose, even after exposure. Definitely worth a shot.

To not even bother packing - Chickenpox?
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