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Racism against south Asians in the UK

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ArtfulKoala · 12/07/2025 13:01

This is a very hard thread for me to begin. I’ve been intending to do it for months but felt unable to do so. I was born in the UK but I am of south Asian origin. My parents and grandparents emigrated here. We are five generations British and counting.

I feel that racism and racial suspicion towards brown skinned people has absolutely gone off the scale since Reform gained a foothold in mainstream politics.

At first it was the little things - being subjected to an extended bag check when entering a museum when white visitors walked straight in or were casually asked to just open the large section which wasn’t really checked. This is especially the case at places like Kensington Palace and the Imperial War Museum. For reference, I am talking about a small handbag 15cm by 25cm probably smaller than their own guidelines state. At Kensington Palace, it actually got to the ridiculous stage where the checker was asking me to open more and more zipped sections down to a 5cm one until there was literally nothing left to open and she was effectively asking me to open non existent ones!
There is an incident every time we are out ( me and my teenagers). People loudly talking about us standing right next to us talking about how we are entitled just because we have been directed to the front of the queue by staff as one of us is disabled.
Yesterday, we got on a damned train with cold, vegan salads from m&s and it started immediately. A white couple complaining loudly about “the smell” when there was none because they judged us by how we look and decided our food was smelly upon that basis. Then, when the ticket inspector came round and we showed the disabled railcard, a running commentary on how we must have gamed the system to obtain that.
It is really wearing. I don’t feel like we can belong here anymore despite being educated and fully integrated here. I fully pay for private housing, healthcare and education and yet I may as well have just stepped off a small boat yesterday as far as they are concerned. I cannot fight random bigots daily when we are just trying to live our lives having low key, relaxing private family time.
It is simply fogging to get worse isn’t it? I honestly believe that Farage will be the next PM ( I am politically literate enough to gauge this for myself rather than buying into tabloid scaremongering. Zayn Malik referred to similar experiences in the song he released last week. We have similar colourings to him and never experienced racism ever before this. Perhaps they think we are Middle Eastern and are directing a particular type of hatred towards us. Perhaps it is a new racism because there were not many Middle Eastern people in the UK until recently.

I know that it is not everyone everywhere but it is now frequent enough for us to come to expect it every time we leave the house. Is this the equivalent of the Weimar Republic for the UK? Since there is no such thing as “stopping the boats” then the headlines will continue and the hatred towards brown-skinned fully fledged Brits too.

If I don’t come back to this thread immediately, it is because it is a massive thing for me to write this down and I will be reading and considering the responses.

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ColinCaterpillarsNo1Fan · 13/07/2025 09:19

xsquared · 12/07/2025 13:46

What makes you think it's not?

I've lived in the UK for nearly 40 years and I still experience mild to overt racism to this day. I can well believe these happened to op.

I don't usually question the "random" bag checks, but I do say something if someone verbally abuses me because of my ethnicity.

Edited

Every time I've travelled from Heathrow, I've always been pulled for a "random bag" check whole the white passengers walked ahead.
As a 40 something woman of colour with dodgy eyesight & knees & kids, I'm regarded as a potential threat to the UK!

Yes it is getting worse since the popularity of Reform and I am being questioned more about whether I will retire to my home country. Well yes I am retiring to my home country, the UK where I was born & brought up.

VanessaFence · 13/07/2025 09:17

I want to reply to @IslandVoiceUK because I think it's important to have a discussion rather than just call others stupid or racist. I really don't think that's helpful and, if anything, makes things worse. For context, I'm British, my partner is British from a South Asian family and I've also been an immigrant in another country.

@IslandVoiceUK I think many people have concerns about poor immigration policies and would agree that people shouldn't move here if they're actively hostile towards British culture or have no interest in integrating. That shouldn't be a controversial thing to say and you're right that many other countries would not accept this.

I also agree that it's a shame that the national flag has become associated with racism. People should not be made to feel ashamed for the historical sins of their ancestors and this "woke" idea that we should all be apologising to each other for things we didn't do is nonsense.

However, there's a few of your points I can't get behind.

Firstly, I don't believe beauty trends have anything to do with reverse racism. Beauty trends are just trends and there's already a shift back towards the waif-like Kate Moss look. Statistics show that black and brown people still get the fewest likes on OLD so the white beauty standard is still dominant.

It's also not the case, statistically, that black and brown people are more likely to be selected for jobs. Studies have shown that it's still the case that a CV with a "foreign" sounding name is more likely to get passed over than one with a British sounding name. It's down to cognitive bias and people instinctively wanting to hire in their own image.

But the main point I can't agree with is this one:
there’s a difference between being a citizen and being part of a deeper shared national identity that’s rooted in culture, ancestry, and history

At what point do you switch from becoming a citizen to becoming part of the national identity? If someone's great-grandparents are German but their grandparents were born here then do they count? You would think so because that's our own royal family. So why is it different for people with brown skin? Why can't they be part of the national identity?

Lioncub2020 · 13/07/2025 09:11

I don't think there is widespread dislike of South Asians in the UK. Just those who choose to join the rape gangs.

CheekyFish · 13/07/2025 09:09

Izz81 · 13/07/2025 09:04

It is amazing how so many people have no idea about the countrys history. We have never had population replacement. Before 1950s the country was 99% White British since records began, im saying that as someone whose Grandparents come over on Windrush and absolutely spot on the level of immigration we have been seeing now has only happened in the last 25 years.

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It’s crazy isn’t it.

CheekyFish · 13/07/2025 09:06

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 08:58

I haven’t compared them, so no idea why you chose to bring it up.

My mistake, I could have sworn you just compared the Roman occupation to mass immigration. LOL

Izz81 · 13/07/2025 09:04

Sskka · 13/07/2025 09:00

No they didn’t. They ruled over the population that was already here. Same with the Normans.

The only time there was anything approaching a ‘melting pot’ was the Anglo Saxon migration, and even then only in certain areas. What’s been done in the past 25 years is entirely new.

It is amazing how so many people have no idea about the countrys history. We have never had population replacement. Before 1950s the country was 99% White British since records began, im saying that as someone whose Grandparents come over on Windrush and absolutely spot on the level of immigration we have been seeing now has only happened in the last 25 years.

Izz81 · 13/07/2025 09:02

To be honest, if we go through the last 30 years….I could certainly name a lot of reasons why. However, I dont think its racism per se. More like people have turned against certain cultures and ideologies that have expanded and grown here and that many have had negative experiences with. As a mixed race woman, ironically, the only racism ive experienced is from certain people from a certain South Asian country…

Sskka · 13/07/2025 09:00

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 08:29

Really? When Romans first came to the UK they virtually replaced the population that was in the UK at the time, and did so very quickly.

No they didn’t. They ruled over the population that was already here. Same with the Normans.

The only time there was anything approaching a ‘melting pot’ was the Anglo Saxon migration, and even then only in certain areas. What’s been done in the past 25 years is entirely new.

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 08:58

CheekyFish · 13/07/2025 08:40

Are you asking me why you compared them or am I missing something?

I haven’t compared them, so no idea why you chose to bring it up.

Spotthering · 13/07/2025 08:57

Just to add, I’m not sure why there are suggestions that OP must be mixed up with being Middle Eastern. Racism towards Middle Eastern isn’t ok either…

Spotthering · 13/07/2025 08:56

IslandVoiceUK · 13/07/2025 02:34

adaptions made by white people “for” immigrants:

  • British traditions, holidays, and symbols are now often treated as politically sensitive
  • Flags, emblems, or anything seen as “patriotic” can be seen as extreme or suspect
  • Celebrations of other cultures are encouraged, while celebration of your own feels awkward or unwelcome
  • Media and schools highlight others’ histories and struggles, but rarely affirm or protect British cultural identity
  • Constant self-monitoring, having to “read the room” before speaking in public, online, or at work
  • Feeling like you have to apologise just for being who you are
  • Internalised guilt or shame about your background, even if you personally never did anything wrong
  • Resentment, confusion, or emotional fatigue from being told your concerns are invalid
  • Deep loneliness, a sense that even your own culture does not reflect you anymore
  • Worry for future generations: wondering what your children will be allowed to say or be proud of
  • Walking through areas that used to feel familiar and no longer recognising the language, faces, or customs
  • Avoiding local discussion topics altogether because you know they’ll turn into something uncomfortable
  • Being accused of bigotry just for wanting your own traditions to remain visible
  • Hearing the term “white” used as an insult or joke, when no other group is treated that way
  • Watching government, media, and institutions celebrate every identity but your own

And really, that’s only part of it. There are many more small and subtle ways things have changed that build up over time. It’s hard to list them all, but together they have had a lasting impact on how at home I feel in my own country.

Please do give examples for all those “adaptions” made. Last time I checked Christmas and Easter were still big holidays and being considerate of your surroundings is what every decent person should do.

thecatneuterer · 13/07/2025 08:51

Bink666 · 12/07/2025 13:34

what is a “South Asian community in the UK”?

Strange question. Surely areas which are predominantly Asian - in London Tower Hamlets, Newham and Harrow for example. Also areas of Nottingham and Leicester. I'm sure there are plenty more.

Wadadli · 13/07/2025 08:40

Sskka · 13/07/2025 08:19

Why is this such a popular thing for people to say? It’s obviously untrue. Britain was about as homogeneous as it gets until very recently.

Bullshit

CheekyFish · 13/07/2025 08:40

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 08:36

No, why would anyone think the two are comparable?

Are you asking me why you compared them or am I missing something?

Wadadli · 13/07/2025 08:39

Fffavvavaa · 12/07/2025 13:09

We are south Asian. We live in a South Asian community in the UK.

We've never felt held back due to our heritage. DH has a nice well paying job and is high up in his company.

All my DC have done well at school, went to grammar schools and went to prestigious unis

Bully for you. That is not OP’s recent experience

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 08:36

CheekyFish · 13/07/2025 08:33

Are you comparing mass immigration to an occupation? Bit off message isn’t it.

No, why would anyone think the two are comparable?

CheekyFish · 13/07/2025 08:33

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 08:29

Really? When Romans first came to the UK they virtually replaced the population that was in the UK at the time, and did so very quickly.

Are you comparing mass immigration to an occupation? Bit off message isn’t it.

CheekyFish · 13/07/2025 08:32

Sskka · 13/07/2025 08:19

Why is this such a popular thing for people to say? It’s obviously untrue. Britain was about as homogeneous as it gets until very recently.

It’s the usual copy and paste tick list:

British empire
Diversity is our strength
Drs and engineers
British white people have no culture
Far right
Colonialism
Melting pot
Aging population

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 08:29

Sskka · 13/07/2025 08:19

Why is this such a popular thing for people to say? It’s obviously untrue. Britain was about as homogeneous as it gets until very recently.

Really? When Romans first came to the UK they virtually replaced the population that was in the UK at the time, and did so very quickly.

Sskka · 13/07/2025 08:19

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/07/2025 01:27

Britain has been a melting pot of immigrants for thousands of years.

Why is this such a popular thing for people to say? It’s obviously untrue. Britain was about as homogeneous as it gets until very recently.

Simonjt · 13/07/2025 07:53

IslandVoiceUK · 13/07/2025 01:25

I think you are being unreasonable OP. Just because someone questions the effects of mass immigration doesn’t mean they’re hateful or racist. People are allowed to have concerns about what’s happening in their own country.

I feel that mass immigration has changed what it means to be British, and not necessarily in a good way. It’s not just about numbers. It’s about how quickly things have shifted, and how people like me, who’ve grown up here, are starting to feel like outsiders in our own country.

Yes, white people are still the majority in the UK, but globally, we’re a minority. And Britain is a small island with limited space, resources, and services. It doesn’t feel sustainable to keep increasing the population this way, especially when public services are already under pressure.

I don’t hate anyone, and I know many people come here looking for safety or opportunity. But I also think it’s fair to say that multiculturalism in the UK has gone too far. We’re told to celebrate every culture but our own, and when white British people try to express pride in our history or traditions, we’re often labelled racist or outdated.

I also want to say something that people might not agree with, but it’s how I genuinely feel. I know the original poster said her family has been here for five generations, and I’m not denying her legal status or lived experience. But I think there’s a difference between being a citizen and being part of a deeper shared national identity that’s rooted in culture, ancestry, and history.

For example, if I were born in China, I personally wouldn’t feel Chinese in a cultural or ancestral sense, even if I had a passport. That’s not about hatred. It’s about recognising that identity runs deeper than just where you’re born. I think that’s a valid perspective, and people should be able to say it without being shut down or labelled racist.

What makes it feel even more unfair is that you don’t really see British people moving abroad and expecting other countries to adjust their traditions or sense of national identity to suit us. But here, we’re expected to constantly adapt while being told we should stay silent about our own culture. That doesn’t feel like equal respect.

I’m not against individuals but I am against unchecked immigration and forced diversity policies that don’t reflect the reality of how many people actually feel. We’re told it’s progress but to many of us, it feels more like erasure.

I think we need to be able to say these things without being attacked. This is our country too and if we don’t speak up, we risk losing the very culture and values that made Britain what it is.

Can you name some of these british traditions thay aren’t allowed in the UK?

British people don’t expect other countries to change, I take it you haven’t heard of the British empire.

Turkishcoffee · 13/07/2025 06:59

Totally get you OP. I'm South Asian (born and brought up in the UK) and 95% of the time love living here. The 5% is the racism and outsider status you get given if you are brown, regardless of being born here, schooled here, working here, volunteering here and contributing to every facet of life here.

I've become more defensive over the years and if anything the racism has made me less integrated as I turn down social events in pubs now because of the racists, whilst 10 years ago I would have gone (and I don't drink). Really rubbish isn't it?

I'm bolder at calling it out in public now but it's trickier when you have a group of thuggish lads swearing at you across the street.

Lifestooshort71 · 13/07/2025 06:45

OP was obviously a bot as hasn't returned AT ALL, just chucked a big stone in to the swampy puddle of British racism and the dirty ripples are still swirling.

THisbackwithavengeance · 13/07/2025 04:23

Racism is on the rise. My mixed race DS is very active on social media and was saying that people are openly and habitually posting racist vitriol that would’ve been - not unheard of but certainly uncommon a decade or so ago.

We have moved back as a society in many ways.🙁

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