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Juniperberry55 · 07/07/2025 15:25

Everything finance wise on Mumsnet seems to be very polarised, either those on £100k+ income with tens of thousands in savings and a holiday home, or not having 2 pennies to rub together

I'm quite curious to see how people would rate my financial situation on average for my age

So I'm 33, live alone
I own a house worth roughly £220k with around £45k mortgage left to pay
Around £14k in debt on 0% credit cards and a low interest loan all due to be paid off in around 2 years
Income around £42k a year
Almost no money in savings, currently trying to build up an emergency fund of a couple of months pay
£0 retirement

I'm guessing there will be the odd comment about this being a stealth post. It is not, I am in debt, I think my finances are not great in some areas, in others I think they're not too bad

Score me 0-10 on how you think my financial situation is for my age 0=awful 5= average 10=Jeff bazos level 😂

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Juniperberry55 · 03/07/2026 10:51

stayathomegardener · 03/07/2026 10:42

Oh wow! Just read your update, that’s awesome in just a year.

Haha thank you. Feel like it might feel like backwards progress if I move next year cause I'll need to pay a fair bit in moving costs but hoping to continue to save enough to mitigate it a little

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stayathomegardener · 03/07/2026 10:42

Oh wow! Just read your update, that’s awesome in just a year.

stayathomegardener · 03/07/2026 10:40

I would rate you pretty low purely for lack of savings debt combination, this could make you really vulnerable due to job loss or ill health.
Do you have a critical illness policy?

Personally I would take in a lodger short term to pay off debts and get your emergency savings established as soon as possible.
I understand pension will have to wait but at least set something up right now even if you only put £10 a month into it. This removes the mental barrier and gets you into good habits.

Juniperberry55 · 03/07/2026 10:03

Thought I'd do a one year update, I come back to this thread every now and again to see how I've progressed. Interest rate changes changed up my original plan in February as it made sense at that point to change it up a little

So I'm now 34 still live alone
I own a house worth roughly £220k (not really gone up or down in value in 12 months) with around £59k mortgage left to pay, so increased by £14k. I was able to keep my very low interest mortgage and get a pretty low 2nd mortgage in February just before they jumped up again
£0 in debt on credit cards or loans so down £14k id paid a chunk of this off before the extra mortgage
Income around £44k a year so technically up £2k gross a year
£9k savings and s&s isa combined, so 3 month emergency fund in savings and the rest in an s&s isa
Joined pension in March following the remortgage so this is now dragging my net pay down quite a bit
So £9k net worth increase in 1 year excluding joining the pension scheme
Continuing to save each month and interest rate on savings currently matching 2nd mortgage interest rate and exceeding the interest rate on 1st mortgage, so not overpaying on the mortgages currently

Feel like my financial situation a little better rounded this year compared to 12 months ago
I may be moving house around this time next year and might need to increase mortgage a little and maybe the term. But the plan is to find a forever home with either downstairs shower room or a bungalow that I can stay in through old age and get it paid off well before retirement if possible. So my financial situation may look quite different in another years time. But I'm pleased with my progress so far

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Juniperberry55 · 09/07/2025 23:29

dementedmummy · 09/07/2025 22:13

I think the point of the savings only being a grand is to make you uncomfortable. That way you are more motivated to clear the debt quicker so you can build up a decent emergency fund. Haven't heard of the other chap so thanks for the heads up! I'm away to have a nosey! 😁

Caleb hammer is quite shouty, very different style to Dave Ramsey. Does make you reconsider purchases about whether they're essential or if he would be shouting at you if he read your statements 😂 again very American and alot of the people are in like crazy debt for crazy purchases like 4 cars on finance and spending a million dollars on eating out.rather than your sort of normal run of the mill stuff

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Juniperberry55 · 09/07/2025 23:24

smileymileysmiley · 09/07/2025 22:37

i'd rate you very very low as you are too stubborn to take basic sensible financial advice to join your workplace pension scheme. It's completely financially inept so I can't see how you will make sensible decisions in future.

You can rate me whatever you like, but it sounds like you're rating my agreeableness with strangers on the internet that looks at things in the same way you do, rather than my actual financial situation.

Other than not opting into a pension right this very second, what else do you disagree with about my plan? Genuine question

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smileymileysmiley · 09/07/2025 22:37

i'd rate you very very low as you are too stubborn to take basic sensible financial advice to join your workplace pension scheme. It's completely financially inept so I can't see how you will make sensible decisions in future.

dementedmummy · 09/07/2025 22:13

Juniperberry55 · 08/07/2025 23:16

I've seen a fair bit of Dave Ramsey stuff, I agree with some of it. I think his $1000 emergency fund to start with and then clearing the debt before saving anything else, I'd rather have more in savings before going crazy on debt repayments but I agree with the principle of some of it albeit I find him a bit preachy and obviously it's aimed at American economy. I quite like Caleb hammer as well tbf.

I think the point of the savings only being a grand is to make you uncomfortable. That way you are more motivated to clear the debt quicker so you can build up a decent emergency fund. Haven't heard of the other chap so thanks for the heads up! I'm away to have a nosey! 😁

Juniperberry55 · 09/07/2025 17:42

@CaptainSevenofNine not sure of exact percentage of employer contribution although it is a decent one

Yes I know how much my contribution would be, the only way I could afford it is by reducing how much I save into emergency fund, so for now I am prioritising the emergency fund

There is a payment for next of kin if I die in service - not something I care about if I'm honest, they can have the equity out of my house if I died tomorrow, I have no dependents

My savings are not in a Lisa as I want easy access without penalties for my emergency fund

Basically if I wait about 18months I can be debt free, with an emergency fund and I can join the pension fund and contribute for the next 32/33 years, so I will have a pension when I retire, will the pension be as large as if I started paying when I was 20, no, will it be dramatically smaller because I paid into it for 32/33 years instead of 34, also not really. I appreciate it will be lower but it won't be the difference between me surviving or not

I am not expecting to live off my state pension when I retire. I will start pension fund contributions in the pretty near future, it is not the end of the world
I can also look into investing more money else where once I am not longer paying off debt or building my emergency fund. I will have the house paid off by 42 at the latest, which will free up more income to save and invest ready for retirement

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CaptainSevenofNine · 09/07/2025 17:26

I’m passionate about this as I work in an aligned field and see the impact of pension poverty. Especially people who are asset rich (house) but low income.

Also helped financially support relatives in pension poverty. All who had homes but relied upon the state pension!

CaptainSevenofNine · 09/07/2025 17:24

You kinda have ignored questions though. Or I’ve missed you answering the questions. Listed here for ease with an extra couple added.

What percentage does your company pay?

Have you checked to see how much your 7% contribution will actually cost you? It will be less than you think

Have you checked all the documentation about the company pension to see if there are additional benefits, perks etc associated with being in the scheme?

Have you considered opening a LISA (can do it for £1)?

Have you considered opening a stakeholder pension and even put a minimum away to get the Govt tax relief?

Juniperberry55 · 09/07/2025 16:53

Samesame47 · 09/07/2025 16:52

Join a workplace pension now, do not wait, if your debt is zero interest then financially you are better paying into a pension now (which comes out before tax).

I’d say your situation is about 4, at 33 I wouldn’t be happy with no pension and debt, although your equity is of course a positive thing

It won't be at 0% forever so I'm trying to clear it down before interest kicks in, yes I can transfer to another 0% credit card but that would incur a roughly 3% balance transfer fee

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Samesame47 · 09/07/2025 16:52

Join a workplace pension now, do not wait, if your debt is zero interest then financially you are better paying into a pension now (which comes out before tax).

I’d say your situation is about 4, at 33 I wouldn’t be happy with no pension and debt, although your equity is of course a positive thing

Juniperberry55 · 09/07/2025 16:46

CaptainSevenofNine · 09/07/2025 16:39

I’ve suggested same. Have been ignored.

we don’t know what %age the company offers or if there are any perks associated.

OP you might like to follow this thread about what might happen to the state pension:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5370270-what-do-you-think-will-happen-to-the-state-pension-in-the-future?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

You haven't been ignored I've answered why I'm delaying contributing to a pension for the next 1.5-2 years, feel free to read my previous comments to find the answers. I understand how pensions work, lack of knowledge about how compounding interest works, employers paying in, free money etc etc is not the issue

Speculating about what may or may not happen to the state pension is very off topic. Please see my OP and previous posts. I haven't asked if I should join a pension or asked for any advice although I have responded numerous times about my plans for starting contributing to a pension in the future

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CaptainSevenofNine · 09/07/2025 16:39

KaleidoscopeFortune · 09/07/2025 10:21

Suggest investigate your company pension, because some give free contributions & free life insurance

Example

You put in X amount
The company also puts in X amount
Compound interest

I’ve suggested same. Have been ignored.

we don’t know what %age the company offers or if there are any perks associated.

OP you might like to follow this thread about what might happen to the state pension:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5370270-what-do-you-think-will-happen-to-the-state-pension-in-the-future?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

What do you think will happen to the state pension in the future? | Mumsnet

I’ve heard people say that it may be means tested in the future. I’m in my late 20s and wonder what the state pension will look like years from now....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5370270-what-do-you-think-will-happen-to-the-state-pension-in-the-future?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

Snakebite61 · 09/07/2025 14:58

Juniperberry55 · 07/07/2025 15:25

Everything finance wise on Mumsnet seems to be very polarised, either those on £100k+ income with tens of thousands in savings and a holiday home, or not having 2 pennies to rub together

I'm quite curious to see how people would rate my financial situation on average for my age

So I'm 33, live alone
I own a house worth roughly £220k with around £45k mortgage left to pay
Around £14k in debt on 0% credit cards and a low interest loan all due to be paid off in around 2 years
Income around £42k a year
Almost no money in savings, currently trying to build up an emergency fund of a couple of months pay
£0 retirement

I'm guessing there will be the odd comment about this being a stealth post. It is not, I am in debt, I think my finances are not great in some areas, in others I think they're not too bad

Score me 0-10 on how you think my financial situation is for my age 0=awful 5= average 10=Jeff bazos level 😂

Definitely 10. In the greater scheme of things.

AvidJadeShaker · 09/07/2025 13:30

KaleidoscopeFortune · 09/07/2025 10:21

Suggest investigate your company pension, because some give free contributions & free life insurance

Example

You put in X amount
The company also puts in X amount
Compound interest

Plus the tax savings

KaleidoscopeFortune · 09/07/2025 10:21

Suggest investigate your company pension, because some give free contributions & free life insurance

Example

You put in X amount
The company also puts in X amount
Compound interest

nightmarepickle2025 · 09/07/2025 09:44

If you’re a public sector employee and have opted out of your pension then opt back in Immediately! You’re missing out on so much free money.

Juniperberry55 · 09/07/2025 09:08

Summerartwitch · 09/07/2025 08:48

As someone who bought a house on her own in the South East, I completely understand where you are at.

When you have a single income and have to deal purchasing and fixing/maintaining a home, it can be hard to save as much as you want or to pay into a pension.

I am rebuilding my savings every month after buying my property and having to do some expected work on it.

I put money every month in my ISA, but I simply can't afford to pay into a pension.

I think many people answering here are from two wage household and don't quite understand how difficult it is when you are on your own and that you have to prioritise bills and mortgage over anything else...

Edited

Yes I think in some cases it may well be the case that they are looking at it from the perspective of a 2 income household. If I was sharing the bills with another person I would very happily start contributing to my pension and paying the debt down slower if needs be as the risk of losing income is mitigated a little by having someone else earning.
Well done on getting on the house ladder in the south east, I imagine that's a lot harder than doing the same where I am, so well done you for achieving that on your own.
Are you hoping to join the pension once you've got a savings cushion behind you?
I do think knowing you'll have the house paid off in retirement does also protect you a little as you haven't got to worry about paying rent out of your pension and there aren't as many council houses available nowadays so I don't think you can rely on having a house with cheap rent.
It's scary how much rent has gone up even in the last few years. So my theory is my pension pot doesn't need to be quite as large as someone who needs to pay for rent each month as that's one less expense

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Juniperberry55 · 09/07/2025 08:53

Blablibladirladada · 09/07/2025 08:15

Yeah sure.
you are so comfortable you are here asking mumsnet?
or was it all a scam to self indulge in how smart you are in handling your bad situation?

the average person knows how to get by but a smart and knowledgeable person would know how to not end up there except if life accident.

I think it'd you read my OP you will see I think people's view on financial situations is pretty polarised on here. I asked people to rate my situation. I've accepted people's ratings and answered questions to how I'm in this position now, the good and the bad. I haven't said they're wrong if they prioritise their pension, I've explained why I'm okay to put it on the back burner for another 18 months - 2 years. But I am comfortable with my plan going forward. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me.

I'm not sure how you think this post is a scam? I have clearly stated in my OP what I was asking and have seen some people like yourself, say how horrible my situation is. Others think I'm doing really well. Some have rated me where I personally view myself at a 3/4 and with potential to get into a fairly comfortable position in a couple of years. I haven't said anyone is wrong. I think it highlights how differently people can view the exact same financial situation.

I don't think think it's self indulgent for me to say I've taken into account the pros and cons of a plan and I'm happy to stick with the one I have.
I corrected you when it came to paying for care and that banks don't take all your equity if you're not in negative equity in the event the house is sold because you haven't made payments. I'm assuming you've taken offence to that for some reason, but I don't think it's necessary to scaremonger people into thinking there house equity is worth nothing and a bank or council could steal it from them at any moment either.

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Summerartwitch · 09/07/2025 08:48

As someone who bought a house on her own in the South East, I completely understand where you are at.

When you have a single income and have to deal purchasing and fixing/maintaining a home, it can be hard to save as much as you want or to pay into a pension.

I am rebuilding my savings every month after buying my property and having to do some expected work on it.

I put money every month in my ISA, but I simply can't afford to pay into a pension.

I think many people answering here are from two wage household and don't quite understand how difficult it is when you are on your own and that you have to prioritise bills and mortgage over anything else...

FormerAnywhere · 09/07/2025 08:24

It's not too bad and it sounds like you have a solid plan. Open a cash ISA and allocate a bit of the money you're using to pay off debts to this. You can then use the interest to help pay the debt off.

Blablibladirladada · 09/07/2025 08:15

Juniperberry55 · 08/07/2025 23:01

I mean even if the bank forced me to sell the house for 150k they would still have to give me back 100k they don't get to keep my equity and there's if I fail to pay the mortgage. If I lose my job through redundancy I would get about £10k. I would also have a couple of thousand in savings as redundancies usually takes a few months before you actually stop work. So I could get by for a few months without the world ending, banks will also let you pause payments for a couple of months usually and at one point I was overpaying the mortgage (not any more) so that would probably get me another month or 2. If I got very sick I would get 6 months full pay, 6 months half pay so again would give me some time, if I was desperate I could sell the house in those 12 months. I agree my position with debt and savings isn't good but I'm am currently doing something to improve my position and payijg into my pension from today instead of 18months-2 years wouldn't immediately made this position less precarious so I'm not sure what you think I should do about this except for trying to save and pay off my debt, which I am

In regards to paying for care, like I said I understand paying towards care al ot better than the average person, possibly in more detail than some financial advisors. It was literally my job at one point. I have explained why paying for care is not a concern for me whether that be in 5 years or 40 years

There is literally nothing I would like from a financial advisor at the moment as I am comfortable with my plan and I don't want to pay for one. I am happy in my choices and it is fine you disagree but it doesn't stop me being absolutely fine with my choices

Yeah sure.
you are so comfortable you are here asking mumsnet?
or was it all a scam to self indulge in how smart you are in handling your bad situation?

the average person knows how to get by but a smart and knowledgeable person would know how to not end up there except if life accident.

Bigcat25 · 09/07/2025 03:49

I'm not a fan of Dave Ramsey but I actually agree with him and the op that starting the pension payment along with emerg fund and debt payment is trying to do too many things at once and it can be hard to get anywhere and maintain motivation. A liquid emergency fund more than $1k is important for peace of mind and in the case of job loss.

I listen to another financial person (Jill on money) and she advocates having access to your money, and not having it all illiquid in a house. (NB her callers tend to have a higher net worth so some people tend to be a little annoyed by that.

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