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To not feel very sorry for woman stuck in Turkey.

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Viviennemary · 20/06/2025 09:17

I was reading about a woman stuck in Turkey. She was there with her partner who was having teeth implants. So they got drunk and she fell against the glasss shower screen in the hotel. And it smashed. So they did a runner. Police chase. Got caught put in jail. Told they owed £15k or else. Sad face. Hmm. Though it does seem very steep for a shower screen.

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Katiesaidthat · 20/06/2025 12:14

kkloo · 20/06/2025 11:44

She's also claiming it's the Turkish mafia who owned the hotel and that they were all in cahoots to charge her for as much as possible. Apparently she's in fear because she's being watched so she's moved out to a hotel further away.

I mean if you thought any kind of mafia were after you and the whole system was corrupt then surely you'd just pay the fine and get home safely, not sure why she'd think a basic lawyer would be able to sort that shitshow for her.

Those opinions are probably why she takes antypsichotics...

ThisGutsyBalonz · 20/06/2025 12:13

AngelicKaty · 20/06/2025 11:58

£15k wouldn't just be for the shower screen - it would include labour costs and lost revenue for the nights the hotel can't rent out the room until it's fixed. And if the "Turkish police are notoriously brutal", this couple should have known that and behaved themselves.
As for your "honest appraisal of the facts" to use Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe and Kate and Gerry McCann as convenient middle-class comparators to this woman is ignorant in the extreme. Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe took her daughter on holiday to Iran to visit her parents and was convicted and imprisoned for "plotting to overthrow the Iranian Govt", but no evidence was provided for this charge whatsoever. It's widely accepted that her conviction and imprisonment were politically motivated and should never have happened - they were trumped up charges designed to pressurise the British Govt. Kate and Gerry McCann had dinner with their friendship group (not "a night drinking" as you disingenuously wrote) within their holiday complex within sight of their own apartment - they aren't the first parents to do this on holiday and they won't be the last, but despite being doctors, they have been regularly and viciously attacked in the press and on (anti)social media, which defeats your argument about them getting special treatment (the Met' police became involved in their case because the Portuguese police had proven themselves to be incompetent).
This woman's DD and the relative danger of Turkey are irrelevant. She committed criminal damage and then tried to evade justice (repeatedly). To attempt to compare her case to those of Zaghari-Ratcliffe and the McCanns is ludicrous and hugely insulting to them considering the appalling injustices they've suffered.

You mean a group of doctors went on holiday, all left their kids in the apartments instead of not going to dinner, or only one of the adults staying in the apartment to make sure their child were safe.

Why is it that if I go to the corner shop, 90 second walk, I get called a bad mum despite having room wifi cameras. Yet you are saying this group of rich couples, who all did it, are somehow better? They weren't in eye sight or else they would have been Maddy leave

AngelicKaty · 20/06/2025 12:12

Tiredofwhataboutery · 20/06/2025 11:09

I think there’s a fairly long history of celebs trashing hotel rooms, joys of a party lifestyle and we all have a little snigger and they cough up the cash.

Provided the money is paid it’s just stupid behaviour and everyone moves on. No one was hurt. I don’t really think it’s about class but wrecking hotel rooms is really a preserve of the rich.

Nonsense. The difference is "they cough up the cash ...". Had this couple admitted to the hotel staff what they'd done and offered to pay for the damage, or immediately paid over the £15k her family subsequently raised, everyone would have moved on and she'd be home by now. This has nothing to do with her not being rich - this is about her having a lousy moral compass (there are plenty of people who aren't well off who still have great values - she just isn't one of them).

Lougle · 20/06/2025 12:11

Tbh, I do feel sorry for her after reading her GoFundMe. She was stupid, but it sounds like it's all got quite tricky and it does sound like she's in an awful situation. I noticed that she's glossed over the damage to the room somewhat and I think that it wasn't at all obvious that she should have run away from the hotel, but if she was taking antipsychotics and drinking, that's not a combination that screams balanced thinking.

I hope there's some way of sorting the situation out.

Shenmen · 20/06/2025 12:07

Katiesaidthat · 20/06/2025 11:55

I´m not being nasty but, aren´t prospectus there to be read? Or doesn´t medication come with them in the UK? It tells you what it´s for, incompatibilities etc etc surely?

Not nasry just maybe a bit naive about the nature of severe mental health conditions. When I was really ill my grasp on reality was pretty poor (I genuinely thought I was Krishna at one point and the second coming the next). Reading inserts to meds was pretty low on things likely to happen.

Also antipsychotics are heavy drugs that stop the ability to think, straight if at all. I wouldn't have looked out of place ina room full of people who had had lobotomies at points.

EggnogNoggin · 20/06/2025 12:06

ThatCyanCat · 20/06/2025 11:30

Obviously they did a very stupid and dishonest thing. A massive debt and indefinite prison do seem harsh for it, though...they didn't hurt anyone. They should certainly pay for the damage, even if that's in instalments, although doesn't the hotel have insurance?

I do feel a bit sorry for them because people get drunk and fall over and skedaddle all the time and it rarely comes to this. But I can't say it's not of their own making. Just hope they can pay their costs and come home poorer and wiser.

ETA: Sorry, just realised she's not in prison any more, didn't get much sleep last night. That makes a difference.

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It doesn't really matter whether the hotel have Twat Insurance.

I dint think many people would be happy to have them stay at their house, have them trash it and then be expected to claim on their home insurance, complete with premium hikes for subsequent years, because they've been twats and think someone else should pay for them.

BatchCookBabe · 20/06/2025 12:02

FluentRoseQuail · 20/06/2025 11:56

Exactly, why they tried to just pay £3000 I don’t know, they should have just paid and left.

Shes raised £830 so far.

Is that all? 😆

Viviennemary · 20/06/2025 12:00

Manxexile · 20/06/2025 11:54

I don't think you can buy insurance that would cover you for deliberately destroying hotel property. Even if you could buy it, drink and drugs would probably invalidate it.

Or insurance if you travel for a medical procedure Afaik.

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LlynTegid · 20/06/2025 11:59

No sympathy.

No comparison with the McCanns (whose neglect and PR exercise I object to and feel sorry for their other children), nor Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe visiting her home country.

AngelicKaty · 20/06/2025 11:58

GiveMeSpanakopita · 20/06/2025 10:25

I do feel sorry for her because a shower door doesn't cost £15k to replace and Turkish police are notoriously brutal.

More generally I'm fascinated by the fact that sympathy for Brits in trouble abroad seems broadly to delineate itself along lines of class loyalty/snobbery rather than an honest appraisal of the facts.

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe went to a country which the UK Govt advises not to go to, spread propaganda according to the laws of that country, but middle class so it's jolly awful and there's a big outcry.

Kate & gerry McCann neglect their infant children in favour of a night drinking and lose one, but doctors, so therefore it's all so awful and let's throw the full weight of the Met behind them.

Woman goes to Turkey for dental work, neglecting neither her children nor insisting on going to a known dangerous country, is cruelly treated by the police and held hostage in that country, but she's working class, so, ha ha ha ha and she deserves it.

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£15k wouldn't just be for the shower screen - it would include labour costs and lost revenue for the nights the hotel can't rent out the room until it's fixed. And if the "Turkish police are notoriously brutal", this couple should have known that and behaved themselves.
As for your "honest appraisal of the facts" to use Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe and Kate and Gerry McCann as convenient middle-class comparators to this woman is ignorant in the extreme. Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe took her daughter on holiday to Iran to visit her parents and was convicted and imprisoned for "plotting to overthrow the Iranian Govt", but no evidence was provided for this charge whatsoever. It's widely accepted that her conviction and imprisonment were politically motivated and should never have happened - they were trumped up charges designed to pressurise the British Govt. Kate and Gerry McCann had dinner with their friendship group (not "a night drinking" as you disingenuously wrote) within their holiday complex within sight of their own apartment - they aren't the first parents to do this on holiday and they won't be the last, but despite being doctors, they have been regularly and viciously attacked in the press and on (anti)social media, which defeats your argument about them getting special treatment (the Met' police became involved in their case because the Portuguese police had proven themselves to be incompetent).
This woman's DD and the relative danger of Turkey are irrelevant. She committed criminal damage and then tried to evade justice (repeatedly). To attempt to compare her case to those of Zaghari-Ratcliffe and the McCanns is ludicrous and hugely insulting to them considering the appalling injustices they've suffered.

FluentRoseQuail · 20/06/2025 11:56

cestlavielife · 20/06/2025 11:40

They should have just paid the money the family gave them 15k and left then tried from UK to argue their points

Exactly, why they tried to just pay £3000 I don’t know, they should have just paid and left.

Shes raised £830 so far.

Katiesaidthat · 20/06/2025 11:55

Shenmen · 20/06/2025 10:23

I'm going to feel a bit sorry for her (not him). She is or has been obviously seriously mentally ill and psychotic. Anti psychotics are fucking horrible. Yes she shouldn't have drunk but when I was on them no one told me that! Also being ill enough to take antipsychotics often means you have poor decision making and strong draw towards alcohol and drugs.

I´m not being nasty but, aren´t prospectus there to be read? Or doesn´t medication come with them in the UK? It tells you what it´s for, incompatibilities etc etc surely?

Manxexile · 20/06/2025 11:54

PinkyFlamingo · 20/06/2025 09:53

Not sure why they need a Go Fund Me... But they probably don't have insurance!

I don't think you can buy insurance that would cover you for deliberately destroying hotel property. Even if you could buy it, drink and drugs would probably invalidate it.

andjustwhatfreshhellisthis · 20/06/2025 11:50

EggnogNoggin · 20/06/2025 09:39

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I'm so missing the laughing reaction emoji!😂

Boomer55 · 20/06/2025 11:46

She caused damage - she needs to pay,

DeSoleil · 20/06/2025 11:45

It’s grotty people behaving badly abroad that give the British people a bad name.

they broke something and should pay.

To not feel very sorry for woman stuck in Turkey.
kkloo · 20/06/2025 11:44

She's also claiming it's the Turkish mafia who owned the hotel and that they were all in cahoots to charge her for as much as possible. Apparently she's in fear because she's being watched so she's moved out to a hotel further away.

I mean if you thought any kind of mafia were after you and the whole system was corrupt then surely you'd just pay the fine and get home safely, not sure why she'd think a basic lawyer would be able to sort that shitshow for her.

amooseymoomum · 20/06/2025 11:43

I've seen those teeth on quite a few folks. I'm so proud of them, they boast, but they look awful. The natural colour of teeth is more off-white.

cestlavielife · 20/06/2025 11:40

They should have just paid the money the family gave them 15k and left then tried from UK to argue their points

BatchCookBabe · 20/06/2025 11:40

Agree @Viviennemary Not a scrap of sympathy for the silly mare. As has been said, it was clearly waaaaaay more than just a smashed shower screen. Dreadful behaviour, but I bet she gets SOME people contributing to her sad little GoFundMe page! 🙄

ZoggyStirdust · 20/06/2025 11:40

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 20/06/2025 10:56

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe went to a country which the UK Govt advises not to go to, spread propaganda according to the laws of that country, but middle class so it's jolly awful and there's a big outcry.

She did no such thing. She was visiting her family with her young child, was taken as a political prisoner and only released when we had payed Iran a long-standing debt we owed them.

It is in no way comparable to this pair what so ever and the fact that NZR was forcibly parted from her child for years is pretty bloody terrible actually.

Yep this. To draw a parallel with that and this case is totally wrong and shows the poster does not understand what happened to Nazanin and why it happened

ThatCyanCat · 20/06/2025 11:30

Obviously they did a very stupid and dishonest thing. A massive debt and indefinite prison do seem harsh for it, though...they didn't hurt anyone. They should certainly pay for the damage, even if that's in instalments, although doesn't the hotel have insurance?

I do feel a bit sorry for them because people get drunk and fall over and skedaddle all the time and it rarely comes to this. But I can't say it's not of their own making. Just hope they can pay their costs and come home poorer and wiser.

ETA: Sorry, just realised she's not in prison any more, didn't get much sleep last night. That makes a difference.

teksquad · 20/06/2025 11:30

She should pay the 15K, silly woman,

Figcherry · 20/06/2025 11:30

To think for what it’s now costing the bf could have had implants done in the UK and looked a whole lot better.

GraceUnderPresure · 20/06/2025 11:29

If she'd broken the shower door by accident + told the hotel straight away full of apologies, she'd have still had to pay and you'd like to think that she'd have insurance to cover it.
BUT
She behaved stupidly, smashed the room up and tried to do a runner.
No sympathy from me, except for her daughter, in more ways than one...