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If you add random extra letters into a name, don't be pissy when people mispronounce it!

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BoobsOnTheMoon · 27/05/2025 20:08

I met someone recently who has a young child with a name that is actually quite a old/traditional English name, rare but not unheard of. Almost the perfect sweet spot, you'd think.

When I heard the name I immediately said oh how beautiful, I love that name. Which then set the mum off on a big rant about how nobody can ever pronounce it. Strange, I thought, it's not that unusual and tbh it's pretty phonetic when written down.

Except I found out later via FB that the mum has added two letters to the name (a consonant and a vowel), in two different places, that make it look like you pronounce it completely differently to the way she wants it pronounced. It's not an alternative spelling (which the name does have a couple of, both of which are completely obvious how to pronounce). If you were to see it written down you'd add an extra syllable when reading it out! And probably mispronounce the one of the consonants because it's had a random other consonant put next to it for...no reason? She must just like how it looks Hmm

I can't say what the name is because this child is literally the only person in the world with the name spelled that way, I've googled it and got the total of 2 results (both of which refer to this child, via their hobby). The closest examples I can come up with would be calling a baby Phetier when you want it pronounced Peter, or Elixzabieth but wanting it pronounced Elizabeth, or Dharrien and expecting everyone to know you say it Darren.

Anyway I don't particularly care how people spell names but to then be huffy that it gets mispronounced is just silly, right?

OP posts:
GarlicPile · 28/05/2025 01:26

@mathanxiety, are Mairi and Mhairi pronounced differently?

GarlicPile · 28/05/2025 01:23

ClairDeLaLune · 28/05/2025 01:11

My DD was at school with an Eirlysiane. What the fuck??

Her mum, Chantalle, said in an interview "We loved the name Eirlys, but her sisters have long names so we lengthened hers." I think Eirlysiane Rose is a nice name!

Her older sisters are Aurelia and Iolanthe. They sound like princesses from a 1930s storybook 🤗

XWKD · 28/05/2025 01:17

The next time you meet her, tell her that people can pronounce it, but she is unable to spell it.

LaLaBall · 28/05/2025 01:16

ClairDeLaLune · 28/05/2025 01:02

Umm - that’s a correctly spelled Irish name 🤷‍♀️

I have a traditional Welsh name (maternal grandparents all Welsh). I was forever correcting people who mispronounced it as a child (i would probably still be correcting people now if i ever met anyone new haha). And even worse was the people who assumed it was mispelled and would try to correct me! The spelling has now become standard for a popular mispelling of a traditional English name in America. sigh

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 01:16

ClairDeLaLune · 28/05/2025 01:02

Umm - that’s a correctly spelled Irish name 🤷‍♀️

It's Gaelic (Scots), and it's the vocative case ofbthe name Mairi.

Maire is the Irish name you're thinking of, in the nominative case. It follows the same changes in the vocative case as Mairi does in Scots Gaelic.

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 01:13

Manxexile · 27/05/2025 21:18

Are you sure it's an old English name and not Scots or Manx Gaelic?

eg Mharie which I've heard English people wrongly pronounce as "Marie" or "Mary", but it should be pronounced something like "Vorrie" or "Vorrey"

Mhari is the vocative case. Mairi is the nominative case.

Strictly speaking, Mhairi should never be used in the nominative sense. It should only be used when addressing someone by name.
"Her name is Mairi" = nominative.
"Good afternoon, Mhairi" = vocative. In Scots Gaelic = "Feasgar math, a Mhairi".

ClairDeLaLune · 28/05/2025 01:11

My DD was at school with an Eirlysiane. What the fuck??

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 28/05/2025 01:05

Phelicitije

ClairDeLaLune · 28/05/2025 01:02

NotSorry · 27/05/2025 21:39

I know a "Mhairi" and it's pronounced Var-ree

Umm - that’s a correctly spelled Irish name 🤷‍♀️

ClairDeLaLune · 28/05/2025 00:58

Not extra letters but a substitution in an already awful name - Chardonnai

Ponoka7 · 28/05/2025 00:58

Tulipsontoast · 27/05/2025 20:53

I know an Amy whose name was spelled Amme. Her mum was called Emma.

Have they definitely not got roots in Estonia, or Hindi etc?

BumWormFatigue · 28/05/2025 00:54

SeriousFaffing · 27/05/2025 20:20

@feelingbleh Surely it can’t be anything other than Kayleigh… I hope!

It's pronounced "Bob" 😂

Nopersbro · 28/05/2025 00:48

If she's becoming angry because people who read the name for the first time are mispronouncing it or asking how to pronounce it, then she is being unreasonable. If she's correcting them and they are still getting it wrong (assuming it's someone who sees the child semi-regularly) then I can understand her annoyance.

GarlicPile · 28/05/2025 00:30

JollyCyanCat · 28/05/2025 00:05

In cattle, c is followed by a so it’s the hard c pronunciation. In silence, c is followed by e so it’s the soft c sound. The rules make sense, just most people aren’t taught them these days.

Cabal
Cable
Car
Care
Case
Cause

Cation but education

Facade.

The rules do exist, but they're far from simple - plus, if working it out from the orthography, you'd need to have a good idea whether the word's of Germanic or Latin origin or is a loanword (and, if so, from which language).

No need to be supercilious.

LaLaBall · 28/05/2025 00:26

I once worked with a couple who named their son Aegon, from Game of Thrones. Not quite the same as OP is describing but equally as batshit IMO. What made it worse was they had both previously been married and had adult children (with normal names) then met later in life and started again, so they weren't 'young and dumb'. They were both teachers!

PurplePylon · 28/05/2025 00:13

I know a Rosé pronounced Rose. It gets pronounced 'correctly' more often than you'd expect, I assume people scan reading/not looking closely, but it's so pointlessly completely incorrect, it'd drive me nuts.

Americano75 · 28/05/2025 00:09

I've seen Avah and Oliviah recently which gives me the irrational rage. It's so pointless.

GarlicPile · 28/05/2025 00:06

wheelywheelynice · 28/05/2025 00:01

I don't know where you got that but it's wrong, her real name is Laura Hollins

No, she's almost right. It was the actress who consulted the numerologist, when she wanted a professional name to launch her modelling career.

JollyCyanCat · 28/05/2025 00:05

LillyPJ · 27/05/2025 21:56

It's risky to appeal to the 'rules' of English or what letters are 'supposed' to sound like. What is 'c' supposed to sound like? It's different in 'cattle' and 'silence'. How do pronounce the 'ou' in 'bough', 'cough', 'dough' and 'rough'? There are hundreds of examples of our spellings not following set patterns.

In cattle, c is followed by a so it’s the hard c pronunciation. In silence, c is followed by e so it’s the soft c sound. The rules make sense, just most people aren’t taught them these days.

GarlicPile · 28/05/2025 00:04

kierenthecommunity · 27/05/2025 23:40

Hana is a legit name. In several languages.

Ayprill is one of the Radford grandkids I think

YY 🙂 The Middle English spelling of April is Aprille, Aprill, Aperil or Aprel. They could reasonably be thought pretentious today, but they're just as legitimate as any other old-form names. Averill and Avril are synonyms.

I believe Ayprill is a Manx or Scots form.

trainboundfornowhere · 28/05/2025 00:04

I met two sisters who had what sounded like perfectly normal names think Emily and Joanna but they were spelled Emma-Leigh and Jo-Anna. Another woman who picked her daughter’s names from the dictionary because she thought the words looked nice. Think Enamel and Pyjamas but pronounced Enarmell and Pyjarmay.

I have also met children named after letters of the alphabet, children with unusual feminisation of masculine names and a lot of last name first names like Shaughnessy.

BobbyBiscuits · 28/05/2025 00:02

Eenameenadeeka · 27/05/2025 23:53

So silly. My childs school posted some pictures and they spelt a child's name what would be the "correct" spelling, at least 4 members of her family commented really snarkily about how her name was spelt wrong and I thought, someone spelt it wrong and it wasn't the school 😂 Don't know why people get so mad when they are the ones who chose to make up their own spelling

I think it's somewhat remiss for a school to miss-spell any of the names of the students. There really isn't any reason why that should happen. A name is spelt how it's spelt, you can't change it just because you think it looks naff.

wheelywheelynice · 28/05/2025 00:01

JDM625 · 27/05/2025 21:49

Reminds me of the model Aygness (Agnes) Deyn. Her mother consulted a numerologist and changed her original name to maximize good luck! I mean, she was a model for a time, but the life long spelling of that name would be a PITA!

I don't know where you got that but it's wrong, her real name is Laura Hollins

BobbyBiscuits · 27/05/2025 23:59

feelingbleh · 27/05/2025 20:14

I wouldn't that could be kayleigh or Kylie

I'd say it couldn't. 'Kay' is always pronounced like that, it's not pronounced 'Ky'. So it could only really be 'Kay-lee'. It's not the best name but I'd say pronunciation wouldn't be the biggest worry.

Eenameenadeeka · 27/05/2025 23:53

So silly. My childs school posted some pictures and they spelt a child's name what would be the "correct" spelling, at least 4 members of her family commented really snarkily about how her name was spelt wrong and I thought, someone spelt it wrong and it wasn't the school 😂 Don't know why people get so mad when they are the ones who chose to make up their own spelling

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