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Parents hate the Childfree

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Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 08:18

Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

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MrsSunshine2b · 19/05/2025 19:49

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:06

you have somewhat contradicted yourself here surely?

on the one hand

**Why should anyone who does not have children have to put in a box?

but you finish up with and feel more childfree than childless.

so years ago you’d have described yourself as childless
Now you’d describe yourself as childfree

I think a lot of people without children were open to the idea at one point but it didn't happen and they have made the best of it and embraced a child free life. Many of them give the impression they never wanted children because admitting that they once did and had to let go of the idea and having people tilt their heads sympathetically is painful.

That's not to say that some people just genuinely never wanted any.

HopscotchBanana · 19/05/2025 19:42

Firefly1987 · 19/05/2025 19:26

I don't understand the obsession so many parents have about old age. It's like it's the only positive they can think of about having kids to try and make the childfree feel bad. "Look at me I'll have all my kids around me when I'm old and you'll be lonely" such a romanticised view of old age anyway. Most likely we'll all be in a care home and have no idea if we ever had kids or not.

It's really not the only positive thing. Nor an obsession. The context in which it was referred was pretty clear.

It's a crude example of one potentially perceived benefit, just to compare against the equally crude perceived benefit of more free cash.

It's all getting a bit straw clutchy and deliberate hyperbole. Just a normal conversation and has to be regaled as "obsession"

MyUmberSeal · 19/05/2025 19:29

Firefly1987 · 19/05/2025 19:26

I don't understand the obsession so many parents have about old age. It's like it's the only positive they can think of about having kids to try and make the childfree feel bad. "Look at me I'll have all my kids around me when I'm old and you'll be lonely" such a romanticised view of old age anyway. Most likely we'll all be in a care home and have no idea if we ever had kids or not.

That last sentence really made me laugh 🤣, in all the right ways. You are bang on the money.

Firefly1987 · 19/05/2025 19:26

HopscotchBanana · 19/05/2025 07:25

But if that's all you're ever going to interpret,. despite what's written down, then....well....are you seeing a theme here?

"I like my choice to not have children, I have more freedom and more fun"

Ok, fair enough.

"I like my choice to have children, I think I'll be less lonely in elder years"

Look at you relishing how miserable child free people will be. Nasty.

I don't understand the obsession so many parents have about old age. It's like it's the only positive they can think of about having kids to try and make the childfree feel bad. "Look at me I'll have all my kids around me when I'm old and you'll be lonely" such a romanticised view of old age anyway. Most likely we'll all be in a care home and have no idea if we ever had kids or not.

Gwenhwyfar · 19/05/2025 15:43

PawsAndTails · 18/05/2025 08:29

OK but I know someone who calls themselves childfree and it's not really by choice, as such. They would have liked children but chose not to have them for medical reasons. They are sometimes sad about it. In fact, all the childfree (or childless) people I know are because of circumstances rather than a definite "I just don't want children." They all have perfectly happy lives, sometimes after a time of coming to terms with it.

I think your first friend is not using the term the way it's meant, but in any case I think you are right to point out that it's not simply a choice or simply not a choice. There is a grey area. For example, I'm single because I was single in my 30s. I see that as mainly being involuntary, but I suppose that had I wanted children badly enough I would have gone to a donor or somehow found a man and settled for him just to have children or had children in a casual relationship, so it's not a straightforward 'through choice' or not.

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:42

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:40

Even if it was, the children were obviously bored and should not be allowed to run riot, no?

Absolutely not

inconsiderate parents

just like the inconsiderate adult couple in the film i saw

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:40

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:38

Presuming the 1996 Twelfth night movie you are referring to

AI Overview

+2

Yes, the 1996 film "Twelfth Night" is generally considered suitable for children. While it has a PG rating due to mild thematic elements, the film's content is otherwise quite wholesome and family-friendly

Even if it was, the children were obviously bored and should not be allowed to run riot, no?

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:39

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:37

No. Saturday night. Independent arty cinema.

Edited

it was 30 years ago, it really has haunted you!

in any event it’s describe as wholesome family fun
and a PG

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:38

Presuming the 1996 Twelfth night movie you are referring to

AI Overview

+2

Yes, the 1996 film "Twelfth Night" is generally considered suitable for children. While it has a PG rating due to mild thematic elements, the film's content is otherwise quite wholesome and family-friendly

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:37

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:34

So it was a pg film
during the day?

im going to google said film! Intrigued

No. Saturday night. Independent arty cinema.

Gwenhwyfar · 19/05/2025 15:36

As a childfree/childless person (I would prefer a neutral term), I don't feel this at all, except from some nativist religious extremists on Twitter. Nobody in real life makes me feel bad for not having children.

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:34

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:33

It was a film. Children were 7 or 8. A film can be PG and still not be terribly interesting for young children. It was a Saturday night. And do you really think they would have been allowed to run riot if it had been a school trip? You are really clutching at straws now.

Edited

So it was a pg film
during the day?

im going to google said film! Intrigued

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:33

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:27

So was it a film or play?

either way could be a school trip

It was a film. Children were 7 or 8. A film can be PG and still not be terribly interesting for young children. It was a Saturday night. And do you really think they would have been allowed to run riot if it had been a school trip? You are really clutching at straws now.

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:33

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:29

Not really,more having a foot in both camps. I tried to have children,that is part of my life story.

so make up a new descriptor!

it’s not a “box” and it is just I suppose a shorthand descriptor

you don’t have to describe yourself as such.

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:29

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:06

you have somewhat contradicted yourself here surely?

on the one hand

**Why should anyone who does not have children have to put in a box?

but you finish up with and feel more childfree than childless.

so years ago you’d have described yourself as childless
Now you’d describe yourself as childfree

Not really,more having a foot in both camps. I tried to have children,that is part of my life story.

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:28

Some parents are thoughtless

some adults are thoughtless

groundbreaking stuff here

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:27

So was it a film or play?

either way could be a school trip

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:27

what sort of age were they?

you said “film”

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:18

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:06

What was the film?

Twelfth Night. What Shakespeare plays do you think would not bore young children?

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:06

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:05

That a Shakespeare film is likely to be boring for young children so why bother taking them and letting them ruin it for others?

What was the film?

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 15:06

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 12:08

Why should anyone who does not have children have to put in a box? Sometimes it is not as simple as didn’t want/couldn’t have e.g a woman may be in a relationship with a man who already has children and does not want any more.

Then there are those like me, who wanted children but could not have them due to infertility but have come to a place of acceptance, peace and contentment with the life we do have, and feel more childfree than childless.

you have somewhat contradicted yourself here surely?

on the one hand

**Why should anyone who does not have children have to put in a box?

but you finish up with and feel more childfree than childless.

so years ago you’d have described yourself as childless
Now you’d describe yourself as childfree

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 15:05

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 14:59

And from that experience you extrapolate…. What @KimberleyClark ?

I could tell you about the adult couple who ruined a film i saw at the cinema as they were practically dry humping next to me and talking throughout. What did I extrapolate? That couple were inconsiderate twats

That a Shakespeare film is likely to be boring for young children so why bother taking them and letting them ruin it for others?

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 14:59

KimberleyClark · 19/05/2025 09:11

Some years ago we went to a showing of a Shakespeare film at a small independent cinema. Some people had brought their children with them and they were bored out of their brains and simply allowed to run riot. They spent the whole evening chasing each other around the cinema and up and down the central stairs. Their parents didn’t even try to control them.

And from that experience you extrapolate…. What @KimberleyClark ?

I could tell you about the adult couple who ruined a film i saw at the cinema as they were practically dry humping next to me and talking throughout. What did I extrapolate? That couple were inconsiderate twats

JenniferBooth · 19/05/2025 14:26

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 18:17

How do you know I’m a parent?

and again with the hyperbole…. Who has said that empathy pours out of all parents?

Well we know now after your claims that its made you more empathetic Turned you into a person who likes to play silly games online is nearer the mark

JenniferBooth · 19/05/2025 14:22

Rumbley · 19/05/2025 08:13

And?

totally different from the pp saying that people describe the endless flowing of empathy from parents with the inference being that the childfree are sociopaths

It certainly made ME more empathetic and
More caring because I honestly have never loved anyone more than myself until I had children.

Edited

Yeah you showed me a good example of that empathy yesterday. 🙄