Our new Neighbours and my loud children

For what it's worth, I don't think you are being in the least unreasonable, your neighbour is being ridiculous, if she can't tolerate the kind of noise that living with close neighbours entails she needs to go and live somewhere else.
I can't understand why so many people commenting here seem to think your family is the problem!

Good news! Now the neighbour can film the kids as well as wake them up in the wee small hours 🥳

It's some made up shite to suit the poster's narrative. Common on MN.

Why is videoing children illegal? What law is this?

You would be videoing the kids playing (that’s illegal) and they should be trained they are kids not dogs.

I didn’t mean all people that don’t like kids are not nurturing, that wasn’t my intention, I just mentioned that in relation to how op described her neighbours, but they can come hand in hand so tbh I’m not completely off the scale.

That’s what I said in my first post… perception is different for everyone.

I’m not disagreeing with you about people who are open about not liking children. Loads of people don’t like kids, there isn’t anything wrong with that, that’s their opinion. I think it’s better to be open about not liking them. You’re ignorant because you said people who don’t like kids are not nurturing. What evidence or reasons do you have that supports this? Because that’s a pretty big statement to make if you’re trying to disprove a comment from someone who says no one ever says they hate kids. Being nurturing has nothing to do whether someone likes kids or not, so it wasn’t relevant. That was my point. You can’t just make stuff up for the sake of trying to prove someone wrong. At least back it up with either facts or an unbiased reason.

Yes I agree it works both ways. Both families have the right to enjoy their garden/ be free from excessive noise. I’m not disagreeing with you.

Well she used loud several times and loud means excessive noise. But who has the monopoly to say what is loud or not loud enough? My version of loud will differ to yours. Op said the walls are thin so yes the noise probably will travel through the walls especially if she can heard her neighbour blasting her radio? I doubt you’d be able to hear the radio if they were thick walls. The noise is obviously an issue as I doubt falling out with a neighbour would be worth the stress.

and this kind of comment is exactly why the neighbour was right to make a point.

doesn’t mean they are loud enough to go through walls of a house. As it's a nuisance the neighbour is complaining about, they are.

Yes she did, and yes I did, just because they are loud doesn’t mean they are loud enough to go through walls of a house. She also stated they are in bed between 7&7. So it’s not like they are making shit loads of noise late and constant. I suspect the oldest is at school during the day so that’s not noisy.

I was simply stating the fact that people do in fact make it known they don’t like kids. How am I ignorant? I know people that hate kids, yes people that have hurt their own kids but this literally has nothing to do with anything. I was simply disproving the comments of someone trying to state no one ever says they hate kids. Some people live in a box and just because they don’t see or hear something they believe it’s impossible. It’s really not that far fetched considering people have said way worse in the world. I don’t need to give my head a wobble, I’m very aware of both sides of a coin not just the one like the person I quoted was.
everyone keeps saying about the neighbour deserving peace, what about the ops family deserving to enjoy thier garden.? It goes both ways.

Yes she did, and yes I did, just because they are loud doesn’t mean they are loud enough to go through walls of a house. She also stated they are in bed between 7&7. So it’s not like they are making shit loads of noise late and constant. I suspect the oldest is at school during the day so that’s not noisy.

Op said her children were loud, repeatedly . The title: my loud children, they have very loud characters, the loudest voice. Did you not read the thread?

Just because people “hate kids” does not mean they are not the nurturing type. Plenty of people who hate kids are in caring job roles or have a pet they nurture. I’m interested to know when you say people who hate kids do you mean people who choose not to have kids? Because I know of plenty of people that hate kids who are parents themselves, you probably know them too. Let me think, what about all the parents that kill their children, rape and abuse them? Articles in the newspapers everyday about a child being murdered and tortured at the hands of a parent. A so called nurturing type? People like you are ones that are so ignorant in the world it’s embarrassing. Are you not embarrassed by your comments? I would be if I made them. Give your head a wobble and understand the neighbour also has a right to enjoy her garden without her l peace being disturbed .

I detest the sound of screaming kids. Even more so when parents make zero effort to ask them to keep the noise down. It's up there with barking dogs - hate them too.

Before I get accused of "not understanding that's just how kids play" I live between a primary school and home run child care. Best neighbours I've ever had. Kids play reasonably and really aren't a bother.

There's a huge difference between fun play and raucous behaviour. There's no need for over the top screaming.

Living next door to ‘loud character’ kids whose parents think they are just being kids, is my ideal of actual hell.

Literally the only way to handle being the OP of an even possibly slightly controversial thread is to just ignore the weird ones. Don’t reply/try to endlessly justify and soothe and explain. They sense they then have you on the hook and they escalate and escalate the insults and theories and nonsense until you have someone just typing the words selfish selfish selfish over and over as above.
Engage only with the thoughtful and considered replies, totally ignore the rest - they will still get wound up and red faced and increase the vitriol but it’s easier if you’re not trying to explain yourself.

’they go to bed at 7.00pm’

translation - Suck it up neighbour they can scream all day long but you can have peace and quiet after 7.00pm!

Her nerves are probably frazzled by them.

Selfish, selfish, selfish parenting by you.

@Drangea yes I know your right. I had no idea mumsnet was full of keyboard warriors . Out for blood. But I’m getting the picture now

thanks