Our new Neighbours and my loud children

This. Absolutely not relevant at all. God forbid a woman chooses not to have a child. And also pretty nasty if the reasons due to infertility, which op would not know.

We moved to a retirement park thing to get away from the child that*s spent the last 2 summers screaming all day on a trampoline and her dad that sits getting pissed and playing very loud music every weekend.
There were other reasons but they confirmed we were doing the right thing sp yadbu.

Children aren’t noisy. Children with parents who think it’s ok and do nothing about it, are noisy. There are children all over my neighbourhood. Very few of them are screaming in their gardens. I have a child who isn’t noisy, my neighbour has a 1 year old who isn’t noisy. The dogs round here are way noisier than the children.

You would be videoing the kids playing (that’s illegal) and they should be trained they are kids not dogs.

Yes …. We have reported to the relevant authorities a few times. They are well known to Social work

There’s quite a few issues that you have here.

First, absolutely no need to even mention she doesn’t have children. Or doesn’t like them. How do you know she doesn’t like children? You don’t know her choices for not having them, could be due to fertility. You have no idea and is not relevant.

Your children are small and will make noise understandably. We don’t get to live in a Childfree works however you to parent your children. If the kids are screaming constantly to which it is effecting your neighbour you need to sort out the problem.

I would suggest getting soundproofing on the walls, so noise will be reduced on both sides, especially as there will be extra noise when you start childminding. You don’t have to tell her but I would probably give her a heads up with you having issues due to the noise. Good neighbours are like good dust. You’re in your dream home so I would take steps to try and reduce the noise as I can imagine things could get very unpleasant if she’s having to listen to screaming kids through thin walls everyday.

Yes, I thought the same.

You sound like an entitled PITA whose raising boys who think they can do what they like. Have some manners in the outside space.

This is bonkers

Also, she is clearly batshit. Because if she hates your kids being noisy WHY would she wake them 2 hours before they usually wake up! They’re sleeping peacefully and she decides to add 2 more hours of noise to her day 🤣 unless she was going out that is!

Obviously it's a typo and move is meant to be love.

Our neighbour when my sisters and I were young teens blamed us for every single noise known to man. Radio, tv, banging, arguing - we did all that and she would complain and mum believed her and we’d get smacked for being disrespectful. Until we were at my nans and mum was home alone and neighbour complained about the dreadful noise. After being told it was impossible as were were miles away she never complained again. Mum never apologised to us either

She sounds crazy! Honestly jumping to waking kids up at 4.30am without actually talking to you is mad!

I have had neighbours who mow the lawn at 6am before work, a furloughed neighbour who spent lockdown using power tools in the back garden while blasting music, kids on quad bikes, students partying until 6am - happy shrieks from kids is not a big deal. When I have been annoyed by noise I have always talked to people first - trying to wake a family at 4.30am is not going to reduce toddler meltdowns! Also worth noting that noise is generally acceptable between 8am and 8pm unless it is noise that goes above a certain decibel which human voices alone do not! You would be justified in making noise complaints if she blasts music at 4.30am. I do wonder if all the people here saying 3 meltdowns a day is abnormal actually remember toddler years ago- my child has meltdowns over ridiculous things. Dropping her to nursery this morning I saw several toddlers having meltdowns over silly things - they are only learning to self regulate at that age.

She may need to invest in some loop sensory earbuds if two kids playing in a large garden upset her that much.

In terms of child minding I think you would need permission from the council to operate a business like that in a residential area due to noise and parking issues. Check with your local council.

If she keeps it up, would count her radio blaring at 4.30am as harassment. Keep a diary, and if it keeps on or escalates, then seek advice from 101, or local council.

Tbh she doesn’t sound very happy or well if this is a pattern of behaviour.

Did you miss the part that one of her dc has asd and add? I presume it’s easier said than don’t to demand a child with sen to be quiet.

That childish approach will really help the situation I’m sure. 🙄

She was a b*h to do that at 4.30am in the morning! Why does no one on Mumsnet try to approach their neighbours calmly before exploding and going OTT with their response to any aggravations!

What does "we move hating your kids play" mean?

I have children (who aren't allowed to shout in the garden as I respect the neighbours' right to enjoy their gardens) and I would hate to live next to you.

Also our childminder never has shouting children in her garden. One of the reasons I chose our childminder is how polite and respectful her own children were.

Children shouldn’t be screaming in the garden, laughing, chatting but not screaming. As for a child minding business, you need to soundproof as it’s completely unfair to make a house unliveable next door

Where do you live? Asking for a friend.