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neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 04/05/2025 20:59

Have a partner or a year - we’re both divorced, both with teen kids.

He has his kids 50/50 and I have mine all the time so it’s fallen into a bit of a dynamic of me fitting in when his kids aren’t around, which made sense esp as my kids are older than his so easier for me to leave alone.

But still, it sometimes feels like he expects to put me up and pick me down according to his schedule.

Anyway, he’s been on a weekend away this weekend and all week has been very preoccupied with the planning etc. So I’ve just written off any expectation of engagement with him thinking. Well I’ll see him tomorrow when he’s back and child free.

He asked me last night if I was available to see him tomorrow. Today I messaged and basically said I’d like to see him tomorrow, but only if it’s quality time and he actually has the time to see me and won’t be unpacking/ hanging washing etc.

He ignored the message then sent me some photo from his holiday, so I said great etc would you mind responding to what I said about tomorrow.

He’s replied basically oh I’ll see you but I’ll be tired so I’ll try my best.

so I said, ok, well I’ve got a lot going on and only want to see you if we’re making time for each other so let’s see each other another day then.

Now it’s deteriorated into an argument.

is it wrong to say to a relatively new partner I’d love to see you, haven’t sent you in a week, but only if it’s quality time?

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JustGiveMeReason · 05/05/2026 00:42

I actually think that, a good year into a relationship, it should be nice, or 'comfortable' to spend time together at each other's houses whilst either of gets on with 'stuff that needs doing'.
If this were a month in, I would be expecting some more effort, and to be going out on dates etc., but, after a year, when either - or it sounds like both - of you have a lot going on, then just being around each other ought to be nice. Sit on his bed and chat whilst he gets something done would be fine by me.

The whirlwind of 'dates' and thinking of somewhere to go is something that happens in the early days. After a year, you should be able to mix those more 'special feeling' evenings with some of the more mundane ones, particularly if you are thinking this might be going somewhere as a longer term relationship.

If you don't feel he is good enough in his 'every day' mode, then maybe he is not the man for you.

aWeeCornishPastie · 04/05/2026 23:11

I agree with you OP bin him off

Students2 · 04/05/2026 22:59

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 04/05/2025 21:10

My definition of quality time is not watching him unpacking his suitcase, hang his washing, put the TV on, scroll his phone.

mire actually talking to one another. Nothing fancy.

I hang out with my husband of 26 years when he is packing / unpacking as I like to chat to him. It sounds like you want a more formal relationship and that's OK. But I don't think he is being unreasonable either.

nam3c4ang3 · 17/04/2026 12:21

You both want different things - you need to split up.

3gingerboys · 19/09/2025 15:09

I completely understand what you're saying and have actually just recently split up with somebody in the same circumstances. He was a really lovely guy but we hardly got any time together as he had his kids 50-50 and worked the opposite weekend. I ended up feeling like a bit of a convenience and school holidays were awful as there was absolutely no time for us. I do feel incredibly sad about it and recognize that I struggled for time too (a very controlling ex who wouldn't stick to any kind of contact and older kids hear a lot too) but I definitely made more opportunities for time than he did. I'm sorry you're feeling let down but I totally get it. It was really hard to make the decision and move on and it will be a long time before I want to date again, I think sometimes you just have to be really honest with yourself about what your needs are otherwise you just end up feeling frustrated. It's really hard to walk away when you find a decent guy, but there has to be time for you as well. Big hugs to you.

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 12:55

Because he’s preoccupied that should have said

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neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 12:54

Lifecircle · 05/05/2025 10:43

I agree with everything you've said and would feel the same. After a discussion with him about your feelings if the same situation continues I would just accept it's not the kind of relationship you want and suggest you go your own ways.

Thank you, I feel really sad about it as I do love him. But the constant switching between feeling all alone and then sometimes not then sometimes feeling alone when I’m actually with him because he’s pros you’re is so hard.

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Lifecircle · 05/05/2025 10:43

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 09:54

Thank you, I just feel like I’ve asked for crumbs and been told I can have even less than that and it’s embarrassing

I agree with everything you've said and would feel the same. After a discussion with him about your feelings if the same situation continues I would just accept it's not the kind of relationship you want and suggest you go your own ways.

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 10:33

ThejoyofNC · 05/05/2025 10:28

But then you're guilt tripping him about it which makes it clear that you do want to go over.

I genuinely had no intention of guilt tripping him, I’ll look back in the messages and see if it looks that way. I genuinely don’t want to see him today now. Just want to concentrate on myself.

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ThejoyofNC · 05/05/2025 10:28

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 10:09

You’ve misread the op - I never said I expected him not do to his washing. I said he invited me over and I said I didn’t want to come if he was going to be in the middle of that stuff and I’d rather see him another time.

im happy to hear feedback but only if it’s based on the actual situation.

But then you're guilt tripping him about it which makes it clear that you do want to go over.

KarCat · 05/05/2025 10:19

I think you have an awful lot going on, you say one of your kids is self harming/has self harmed.
You rightly would like a supportive partner, but I’m afraid he’s not that for you.
You deserve better than being slotted into his life when and if he can manage it.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 05/05/2025 10:19

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 09:45

Thanks, I appreciate that perspective.

I have my kids 100% of the time (their Dad is around but a selfish bastard and they both hate him) so I also have a lot going on. That’s why I want decent time with him not scraps.

And you're not in the wrong at all to want more, it's just that he's unable to give it to you.

Sometimes that's the worst situation and makes it so much harder to break up. If someone does something awful, you have anger and the moral high ground on your side. When someone can't give you what you need from them and continually disappoints you, that's deeply hurtful but makes you question yourself.

It's perfectly fine (but difficult) to walk away from someone who can't give you what you want or need.

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 10:09

ThejoyofNC · 05/05/2025 09:56

I'm sorry but I think YABU. You want to come over when he's just got back from a trip, but you don't want him to do his washing/unpacking. Especially when he's got his kids the following days. I wouldn't want to leave all these jobs not done so I could have "quality time".

You’ve misread the op - I never said I expected him not do to his washing. I said he invited me over and I said I didn’t want to come if he was going to be in the middle of that stuff and I’d rather see him another time.

im happy to hear feedback but only if it’s based on the actual situation.

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neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 10:06

Tiswa · 05/05/2025 10:02

This doesn’t sound as if it works for you

You’re right, it doesn’t. I don’t think there is any way that it can, sadly,

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Tiswa · 05/05/2025 10:02

This doesn’t sound as if it works for you

ThejoyofNC · 05/05/2025 09:56

I'm sorry but I think YABU. You want to come over when he's just got back from a trip, but you don't want him to do his washing/unpacking. Especially when he's got his kids the following days. I wouldn't want to leave all these jobs not done so I could have "quality time".

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 09:54

AlertCat · 05/05/2025 09:44

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. He sounds as if he wants your physical presence but isn’t bothered about sharing much else. That would annoy me too- as would someone getting cross when I suggest meeting another time if they’re tired!

Thank you, I just feel like I’ve asked for crumbs and been told I can have even less than that and it’s embarrassing

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neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 09:45

MightAsWellBeGretel · 05/05/2025 09:36

OK, the first two things I wouldn't mind at all, but the doom scrolling and TV would feel really low effort.

That's not to sat it's necessarily his fault as such - we all get tired and need that sometimes. It's more that he's got a lot of other stuff on and it doesn't feel enough for you.

Thanks, I appreciate that perspective.

I have my kids 100% of the time (their Dad is around but a selfish bastard and they both hate him) so I also have a lot going on. That’s why I want decent time with him not scraps.

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AlertCat · 05/05/2025 09:44

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. He sounds as if he wants your physical presence but isn’t bothered about sharing much else. That would annoy me too- as would someone getting cross when I suggest meeting another time if they’re tired!

MightAsWellBeGretel · 05/05/2025 09:36

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 04/05/2025 21:10

My definition of quality time is not watching him unpacking his suitcase, hang his washing, put the TV on, scroll his phone.

mire actually talking to one another. Nothing fancy.

OK, the first two things I wouldn't mind at all, but the doom scrolling and TV would feel really low effort.

That's not to sat it's necessarily his fault as such - we all get tired and need that sometimes. It's more that he's got a lot of other stuff on and it doesn't feel enough for you.

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 05/05/2025 09:32

Thanks for responses.

Just to be perfectly clear - I have never once asked him to spend time with me when he has his kids, or ever complained about him having them.

This thread isn’t about the fifty percent of time when he has his kids - when I have no expectation of seeing him - it’s about the fifty percent of time he doesn’t have them.

His expectation seems to be that I’ll keep the two weekdays he doesn’t have them and EOW free for him, and then he can pick me up and put me down during those times.

But that’s not working for me and my life and so now I’m trying to say let’s schedule the time and make it decent rather than me just being picked up and put down when he feels likes it in his child free time.

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Eenameenadeeka · 05/05/2025 00:32

I do think maybe you could have worded it better, like "if you have time, I'd love to have dinner together but if you are still busy with unpacking we can catch up on Tuesday" or whatever. I think given that he's still busy caring for children half the time, 'fitting in' is just what it would be for a while until they're grown.

Swiftie1878 · 04/05/2025 22:57

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 04/05/2025 21:15

I did suggest we do something together but his timings were all foggy based on when he leaves tomorrow morning which is based on how drunk he gets tonight so he wouldn’t commit.

I just said ok I’ll see you another time and he’s not happy with that

Bail. He’s not ready for you.
You deserve better/more.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 04/05/2025 22:52

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 04/05/2025 21:15

I did suggest we do something together but his timings were all foggy based on when he leaves tomorrow morning which is based on how drunk he gets tonight so he wouldn’t commit.

I just said ok I’ll see you another time and he’s not happy with that

Do you cook for him etc? I'm just wondering if he wants you to look after him when he's a bit fragile. Or even hangover sex? Men are usually only about two things sex and food. 😂
Definitely decline if he wants you to nurse maid him.

neverlnowifimrightorwrong · 04/05/2025 21:19

I don’t use the words ‘quality time’ I said I’d like to see him without distractions.

Ive had a fucking awful week and haven’t uttered a word of it to him because I don’t want to ruin his trip.

i don’t want to talk to him about my kid’s self harm scars while he hangs up pants. I literally just said let’s see each other when you aren’t tired

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