To take away dd(13)s en-suite?

I hear you. Hold on in there x

I've only read your posts @thatsfunnybecause, so apologies if this has already been suggested, but I've asked my own teen DDs what aspect of an en suite would be the most useful for them, and if they had it, would free up the family bathroom for the most time (cos that's what would be important to me, in our 1 bathroom home!) They both said a shower, so if that's the same for your DD, it's worth having a think about whether there is space to have a shower for your DD.

This could mean retaining a corner of the en suite on a wall adjacent to your DD's bedroom then knocking through, and putting a shower door on the side facing your DD's bedroom, then building to block off the rest of the shower from the en suite (or what was the en suite, to be added to the new, bigger bedroom).

Alternatively, if your DD has any cupboards/built in wardrobes in her room, one of those could easily be converted into a shower - I know one of my DD's friends has just this in her bedroom (another family with 2 teen DDs!) and I know my DD is very jealous!

Thank you. Some days are harder than others. On a good day, the 3 steps from my bedroom door to the bathroom feels like no distance at all.

On a bad day, putting a dressing gown on and walking through to smell someone else's shit just feels... inhuman. No should have to live like this. My grandad didn't fight in 2 World Wars* for me to brush my teeth in a sink that someone else has also brushed their teeth in that morning. Sharing plugholes... It's difficult, you know? But we put on a brave face, and we persevere.

*He literally didn't.

Two teenage girls and two adults sharing one bathroom.

The poor girls must be traumatised not having their own bathroom each.

Apologies if this has been suggested already but would it be possible to use some of your daughter’s bedroom to make a bigger room for your three year old, instead of the en-suite?

Sympathies. Hope you can all get over the distress and trauma and move forward with your lives.

2 adults and 1 teen sharing one bathroom in our house. No en-suites anywhere. We are scraping by... ;-)

ha ha I can tell most people here don’t live in Victorian houses. Very difficult to retrofit en suites in at all and most only have one bath room unless you have converted the attic where you might squeeze in another. Our family all share the one small bathroom. We manage just fine!

Just a thought, don’t think it’s been mentioned yet.
you say DD 13 has ‘a bigger room’ how big is the room..? Would it be big enough to put a shower/loo/sink room in one corner if the en-suite comes out?

The 3 year old is the youngest though. When he has grown out of needing a play room, the play room can be his bedroom, and his boxroom can be an XBox room. But it's going to be years before he is in the 'living in his bedroom' era. My son started at about 10.

She doesn’t have any step siblings.

And most teenage girls cope with period without an ensuite!

The downstairs playroom isn’t just for the 3 year old either. Read the OPs posts.

I worked out what you meant. See my post at 19.21 @thatsfunnybecause

Let her have privacy, OP.

Because now they have options which means they dont have to.

Because 3 year old grow 🤷‍♀️

Many teenage girls deal with periods in a house with at most 2 toilets …. This house has so many!! Hardly any teenage girls in the UK will have their own en suite.

If the 3 year has room to sleep in it's bedroom and a play room downstairs I can see why the DD is upset. Also she is probably having to deal with periods as well as step siblings too. Why would the 3 year old need 2 rooms to play in?

Do any of the houses on your estate have extensions, loft conversions or converted garages? Or do they all look as they did in the 1960s?

Yesterday you claimed that lots of people had TVs in the bathroom - I don't know anyone with a TV in the bathroom.

Well presumably they didnt have enough rooms, and now they do. So why should the boys share just so she can keep her ensuite? That is even less fair than her having the ensuite in the first place. People are talking about upsetting the DD, how on earth do you think the boys are going to feel if they have to share?!

OP given that the bathroom facilities are plumbed in already, would it be feasible to create a small jack-and-jill bathroom between toddler's new room and daughter's existing room? (Not sure if that term is an Americanism but it's a bathroom with doors either side into two other rooms if that's not clear.) Or maybe create a vanity unit in DD's bedroom so she at least has somewhere she can get washed in the morning and leave her own toiletries there undisturbed? That way you keep the value to the house of the other bathroom and create a bathroom that two girls can access.

Sorry I misunderstood, but I still don’t understand why she had to share with younger siblings and now you don’t want them too!

That sounds like a great idea Op, especially the separate ‘family’ bathrooms for boys and girls. That way issues of embarrassment around period products, or just wanting a nicer space that doesn’t smell bad, are easily addressed! An upgrade to her bedroom to soften the blow, and the only child with their own loo and sink is the eldest. Depending on how you remodel, is there scope for any of the other bedrooms to have a private loo and sink too? Thinking about when they are all older and boomeranging home to save money..

Totally sensible.
she has the biggest, best bedroom after the master already and will not be losing it.

My attitude is if she in ungrateful for having the biggest bedroom without the en-suite, I would give her a smaller one and next oldest child can have it!

Favouring one child to have an en suite when the other children do not is unfair.

if she does not like it, at 18 she has every right to move out and rent her own en-suite room.