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New boyfriend won't dine out. Ever.

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Beautifulbouquet · 12/03/2025 22:43

I've started seeing someone. He told me yesterday that he doesn't like dining out. Ever.

He would rather I cook or he cooks and if the relationship continues will apparently never go out for brunch or lunch or dinner with me.

I could of course dine out with friends without him. He would not come for example to any meal with friends he was invited to.

His reason is he is vegan and he says he doesn't trust chefs not to contaminate his food.

I honestly feel like saying I cannot see this relationship going anywhere.

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Ionut · 13/03/2025 16:23

Dovetail22uk2 · 13/03/2025 16:18

Go on then, tell us why you think Antifa are bad?

The violence.

Dovetail22uk2 · 13/03/2025 16:18

Ionut · 13/03/2025 15:23

Oh come on... Don't you read beyond the dictionary definition...?

Go on then, tell us why you think Antifa are bad?

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 16:15

crockofshite · 13/03/2025 15:58

All my cast iron cook ware is black 😳

I've just realised-mine is too! AND I have a brown slow cooker books oneself onto a diversity awareness course immediately

Sorry, I know I am being silly now. I am in the middle of an incredibly boring work-related task!

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 16:14

TR888 · 13/03/2025 16:09

Why wish for things to fizzle out, OP? Why not just take control and leave him?

You are quite clearly not attracted to his personality, and I don't blame you!

Because we've been dating a really short while ..I don't need to leave him. I can just pass on any opportunities to drink beer with him and not offer to cook for him again.

I don't want a deep conversation when it's not warranted. We dated for a while...it fizzled out.

Plus I'd like to get my stuff from his without it being tense, awkward and resentful.

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AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 16:14

TR888 · 13/03/2025 16:09

Why wish for things to fizzle out, OP? Why not just take control and leave him?

You are quite clearly not attracted to his personality, and I don't blame you!

She said she had to collect her belongings from his house, so that might be why she hasn't just binned and blocked?

TR888 · 13/03/2025 16:09

Why wish for things to fizzle out, OP? Why not just take control and leave him?

You are quite clearly not attracted to his personality, and I don't blame you!

crockofshite · 13/03/2025 15:58

RampantIvy · 13/03/2025 12:57

That was for some general tofu inspiration. I'm not even vegetarian let alone vegan. I just like all types of food. What did you do about food while he was eating his?

Your soon to be ex would find my kitchen very racist. My most used pan is a wok Grin

Eating deicious food is important to me so the relationship wouldn't even have got this far for me.

All my cast iron cook ware is black 😳

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 13/03/2025 15:54

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:40

My ASD ex was like this. Wouldn't eat anything I'd cooked because my food hygeine (perfectly fine, by the way) wasn't up to her standards. Ditto anything my Mum cooked-she'd offer to do the cooking under the guise of being nice but although it was appreciated, it wasn't for that reason. It was because she'd not eat anything others had made.

But! She'd happily order from the dodgiest 1star takeaway in town and get a greasy pizza. Not a problem. I did educate her on how rice was cooked and how supermarket goods are stored etc etc-again no problem, would eat at the local greasy spoon, anything. But home cooked-nope.

It's like 'out of sight, out of mind' isn't it? People are strange.

OrlandointheWilderness · 13/03/2025 15:53

Bloody hell. One of the true joys of life is a meal out for me!
This isn't just because he is a vegan. This is because he is a weirdo.

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:49

NaomhPadraigin · 13/03/2025 15:46

OP answered at 10.46 this morning to say he's affectionate and generous.

Thank you! I missed that! Well, that's something I guess. She'd just have to tell him to refrain from the soggy tofu on cheap bread sandwich until after fornication happens.

NaomhPadraigin · 13/03/2025 15:46

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:42

I genuinely want to know this too!

OP answered at 10.46 this morning to say he's affectionate and generous.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 13/03/2025 15:46

@Beautifulbouquet he sounds like a genuine nut job! you would be well rid of him!

Huckyfell · 13/03/2025 15:42

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:25

Well yeah I thought so. He hasn't been an active protester for 7 years but yes he used to organise and attend protests against fascism, repressive laws, racism etc

He's committed to his causes and I admire that.

It's when it spills over into calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times) or not wanting to do anything ever (I even suggested a litter pick one day...it was a sunny day...beautiful country lanes...and free...but he didn't want to) that it just feels like an excuse to not participate in the relationship fully.

He's texted in the last half hour all cheery and asking how I'm doing.

I've replied cheery enough. I just want it to fizzle out really. I do not want another intense discussion.

I'd hate him to see in my cupboards, the indian stuff is on the bottom shelf of the cupboard round the corner, just beneath the Chinese stuff. The more traditional European stuff is all on hand and there is a drawer full of it. I hadn't even thought it could have been racist but obviously brown sauce matters.

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:42

TR888 · 13/03/2025 13:11

(is he any good at sex?)

I genuinely want to know this too!

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:41

RampantIvy · 13/03/2025 12:57

That was for some general tofu inspiration. I'm not even vegetarian let alone vegan. I just like all types of food. What did you do about food while he was eating his?

Your soon to be ex would find my kitchen very racist. My most used pan is a wok Grin

Eating deicious food is important to me so the relationship wouldn't even have got this far for me.

I hope you keep that wok FAR away from your English deep fat fryer and your native frying pans.

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:40

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 13/03/2025 12:48

He might be vegan but the over-arching reason here seems to be a form of extreme anxiety and control issues over food. I know someone who won't eat anywhere but her own home and all food has to be cooked by her. It's irrational of course, because she'll open a tin or packet and she has no idea what went on in that factory where it was processed. She will go to parties and barbecues and weddings because can get around eating in front of other people by pushing a bit of buffet food around a plate and then just ditching it, but she would have a meltdown at being invited for dinner because she'd find it hard to disguise the fact that she's not eating the food you cooked and put in front of her.

If he wasn't a vegan he'd probably be exactly the same, he just wouldn't be able to make it about his veganism and his distrust that someone won't accidentally or deliberately adulterate his food with animal products.

My ASD ex was like this. Wouldn't eat anything I'd cooked because my food hygeine (perfectly fine, by the way) wasn't up to her standards. Ditto anything my Mum cooked-she'd offer to do the cooking under the guise of being nice but although it was appreciated, it wasn't for that reason. It was because she'd not eat anything others had made.

But! She'd happily order from the dodgiest 1star takeaway in town and get a greasy pizza. Not a problem. I did educate her on how rice was cooked and how supermarket goods are stored etc etc-again no problem, would eat at the local greasy spoon, anything. But home cooked-nope.

dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 15:35

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:25

Well yeah I thought so. He hasn't been an active protester for 7 years but yes he used to organise and attend protests against fascism, repressive laws, racism etc

He's committed to his causes and I admire that.

It's when it spills over into calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times) or not wanting to do anything ever (I even suggested a litter pick one day...it was a sunny day...beautiful country lanes...and free...but he didn't want to) that it just feels like an excuse to not participate in the relationship fully.

He's texted in the last half hour all cheery and asking how I'm doing.

I've replied cheery enough. I just want it to fizzle out really. I do not want another intense discussion.

From my hugely limited knowledge of your situation, it sounds like you're doing the right thing. If things are so complicated and difficult already it can only get worse. The "calling food racist" is completely bonkers though!

I hope you find someone normal who will love to take you out for dinner and will even open their blinds! xx

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:35

lily219 · 13/03/2025 11:51

I wonder if many vegans worry about the 'meat' that they unknowingly consume? A small amount of some contaminants (insects etc) are permitted in, for instance, flour. Then there are the tiny aphids you occasionally unknowingly eat on salads and vegetables. These can't be avoided. It's fine to be vegan and a great thing for the environment, but people have to be realistic about it. Refusing to eat out ever is taking things too far.

As I've previously said, having been vegan since the beginning of time (well, over twenty years) never once have I met a vegan who won't eat out. Even back in the 'Chips and salad/beans and baked potato or nothing' days.

Veganism is 'take the path of least harm' and 'As is practically possible'. We can't worry about every little thing any more than a Christian worries about doing something 'wrong' (wearing mixed fabrics, not going to church every day) does.

I swallowed a fly yesterday while out running. A takeaway once sent me meat bhajis by mistake and I bit into one. I once unknowingly made a cake with weevils in the flower and of course must've killed them all. Non-vegan products are in most electricals-I am not worried about it. I do my best and that's all anybody can ever ask of anyone.

In the early days, I'd sometimes enter a dinner party, bring my own wine but if the host thrust one into my hand upon arrival I'd drink it out of being polite, too. Now with more choices that isn't such an issue any longer but again, I didn't beat myself up about it.

NaomhPadraigin · 13/03/2025 15:33

..calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times)...

So it wasn't a one-off, brain fart comment? He legitimately thinks not putting your soy sauce with your guacamole, or your Thai green curry with your ketchup is racist - the mind boggles 🤯😖

AnnListersBlister · 13/03/2025 15:28

CautiousLurker01 · 13/03/2025 11:00

Going to put my head above the parapet here and say that I think, sadly, you are dealing with a person on the autism spectrum. My entire extended family is, and although we are completely different in the way each of us presents, the rigidness with what/where he will eat, only wearing black etc all resonate.

Obviously most of us have partners, are married etc, but it took special people to look past our individual idiosyncrasies and/or at least ones with similarly aligned foibles of their own. As lovely as this guy may have been on many levels, I think that if you are finding it stressful to navigate a relationship with him, then it’s best to let him go. There will be another person out there who is into home cooking/veganism and staying in. She just isn’t you.

And you will find someone who will be game for an impromptu bar meal and pub quiz. If it is this much hard work now, it will only get harder so best to break up before one/both of you become more attached.

Thank you for this post. I too feel sad saying this but without being ableist because I am sure there are perfect partners out there for people with ASD however presenting, but I dated someone with ASD for a few years and her presentation of it was so, so hard for me that it did me quite a lot of damage-I should have walked away much, much earlier to enable her (and me!) to find someone more suited. Please take heed OP.

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:25

dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 15:18

Being in Antifa is a GOOD thing! It literally means "anti-fascist".

Well yeah I thought so. He hasn't been an active protester for 7 years but yes he used to organise and attend protests against fascism, repressive laws, racism etc

He's committed to his causes and I admire that.

It's when it spills over into calling my cupboards racist (which he's done at least 10 times) or not wanting to do anything ever (I even suggested a litter pick one day...it was a sunny day...beautiful country lanes...and free...but he didn't want to) that it just feels like an excuse to not participate in the relationship fully.

He's texted in the last half hour all cheery and asking how I'm doing.

I've replied cheery enough. I just want it to fizzle out really. I do not want another intense discussion.

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minnienono · 13/03/2025 15:24

Would he go to a vega restaurant? Stay in a vegan b&b? If no then there’s no hope, it’s not about contamination

Ionut · 13/03/2025 15:23

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:20

Drinking beer?

Non vegan beer apparently 🤣

Ionut · 13/03/2025 15:23

dovetail22uk · 13/03/2025 15:18

Being in Antifa is a GOOD thing! It literally means "anti-fascist".

Oh come on... Don't you read beyond the dictionary definition...?

Beautifulbouquet · 13/03/2025 15:20

Miaowzabella · 13/03/2025 15:14

Oh dear. Is there any pleasant, normal, sociable, life-enhancing activity that your boyfriend actually enjoys?

Drinking beer?

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