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Why would a mum block a friendship? Playdate exclusion

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 10:13

My 9 year old has been very close , even best friends, with another child at school. Outside of school child's mother avoids us and is icy cold with us. She is warm and friendly with three others arranging playdates, sleepovers, holidays with them. I've invited her child over a few times but messages completely ignored. Her kid has made it clear they'd love to play outside of school with mine.

She'll bend over backwards facilitating other friendships even though those children have problematic behaviour at times e.g. domineering, occasional threats in the games and disrupting lessons. So it's not that. My child is kind, no arguments and no complaints from school.

Mother slightly odd in some other ways too but who isn't.

AIBU to think this is exclusion or social bullying? How do I support my child as child doesnt understand why friend cant play outside of school? Do some people just like making little kids unhappy?

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GroovyChick87 · 13/02/2025 12:04

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:10

She probably definitely doesn't like me though it seems it's something she's decided even before she even knew me. But they are 9 years old and she doesn't really need to socialise with me? She's had other kids round on their own since Reception but never ever anything with mine etc

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Yes but she doesn't have to give her time to something she doesn't want to do, nor her child's. Honestly I think you're overthinking it. It hurts to be rejected but it may not even be personal. It could be she just doesn't have time or headspace to dedicate to you and your child because she prioritises other commitments and that's reasonable. You can't control what other people think or get them to do stuff they don't want to do so there's no point trying. Just let it go. They can still be friends at school.

orzomushroom · 13/02/2025 12:02

OP I really do get where you are coming from .This happened when my son was at primary school. He was in a solid friendship group throughout and one Mother was really Off with me ,absolutely no idea why .
Her son did come to us after school occasionally but my son never invited there or very rarely.
We live in a reasonable detached house with decent garden but this child lived in a massive house with pool etc .
This child had a summer party when they were 10 and all 6 boys were invited apart from my son . Found out after the event.
This happened about 15 years ago and I still very occasionally think about it ,looking at what an amazing young man he has become.

ShaunaSadeki · 13/02/2025 12:01

Are you much richer or poorer than the other family?

Waitingfordaffs · 13/02/2025 12:00

OP I had the same deal with one of mine - I didn’t fit in that particular clique and my son was excluded - emails and invites ignored . I told my son the truth , he’s now almost 15 and he and the other boy are still best mates - from year 6 / year 7 they make their own plans and do stuff together and mums don’t have any real impact . If this is a real and local friendship it will last . Not all people are nice and some have their own issues - 9 is not too young to start learning that - they spend time together at school - a little patience is needed - these things do sort themselves out

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 12:00

FoxtonFoxton · 13/02/2025 11:29

It's her problem, not yours. Don't let it worry you -arrange play dates with others and forget about it. If she isn't going to address it you can't do anything about it anyway so it's pointless thinking about it and wasting your time guessing what's wrong. She doesn't like you -oh well 🤷‍♀️. In a few years they'll all be off to secondary and you won't see the mum or think about it again.
I had a mum dislike me for some odd reason at primary. We had only ever been on a hello and goodbye level of socialising anyway, so when she started ignoring me and giving me dirty looks I laughed and let her get on with it. I completely forgot about it for a few years until she started saying hi again. Obviously my total non reaction became boring after a while!

Yes Foxton that behavior is very similar to this mum's. Thank you

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:57

Mary46 · 13/02/2025 11:28

Hi op my kids much older now but just keep it to school chat now. Some mums are really weird they dont want new kids in the group. I found it all rather cut throat at times.. has he other friends for playdates

Hi Mary, yes there are some we could try to facilitate but this friend is one of the closest or the closest even.

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Fargo79 · 13/02/2025 11:56

There are definitely friendships I have discouraged for my daughter. One in particular springs to mind. I'm absolutely certain that her mum would also describe her as lovely and kind, but the reality is quite different for my daughter. It was a bit of a "frenemy" situation. Best friends one day, my daughter being pushed aside the next. Comments on my daughter's clothes. Pointedly leaving my child out of group games but then intermittently "love bombing" her with friendship bracelets etc. All very standard but not something that was healthy for my child. I'm absolutely positive that her mother would not recognise this behaviour in her daughter. The other girls in the group are still welcome at my home for occasional playdates but I will not extend the invitation to this one and have encouraged my daughter to stay well away from her at school.

She obviously has her reasons for not wanting to facilitate the friendship between your children. Maybe there's some superficial reason but maybe she has genuine concerns. You'll never know and she is free to make the choices that she feels are best for her child.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:52

Hankunamatata · 13/02/2025 10:58

Urgh seen this several times with parents that kids have natural best friends at school but the parents don't want the friendship so organise playmates with more 'appropiate' children. Generally it does work esp if younger. Though doesn't stop school friendships.

I'd concentrate on dc making some new friends that will come for sleep overs and play dates

Thanks Hanku. I find it so strange this behaviour. Did those natural friendships survive into older years once mum's control over who the kid plays with runs out?

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stayathomer · 13/02/2025 11:51

Op I don’t think you can make assumptions, she might have seen or heard something she’s not happy with or maybe something happened in the friendship group (your daughter sounds lovely but nobody is perfect so maybe they had issues you didn’t know about). There’s only so much facilitation you can do but do maybe try and have a conversation with the mum asking about a play date directly

honeylulu · 13/02/2025 11:51

There is a fair amount of "social engineering" at primary school where some parents will steer friendships towards families they feel comfortable with. The reasons aren't always obvious. Sometimes it's snobbery, sometimes it's shyness/anxiety. But there's nothing you can do about it. The good news is once they go to secondary school the kids can get on with it and the other crap falls away.

biscuitsandbooks · 13/02/2025 11:49

There's no benefit to tying yourself up in knots trying to figure out a reason.

Maybe she doesn't like you. Maybe your child has upset her child at some point. Maybe she doesn't like your husband has heard a rumour, or maybe she's just a bitch.

You'll never know the reason so there's no benefit in stressing yourself out over it.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:48

arcticpandas · 13/02/2025 10:51

Some mums only want to make plans with mums they know since year 1 to the detriment of their children forging new friendships. My DS had one like this as well. I felt sorry for her kid who wasn't allowed to come on playdates our outings with anyone else than x and y. My DS started inviting other friends and became closer to them. It's really selfish of the mum but maybe she's extremely anxious around new people ?

She may be very anxious yes. Thank you for the encouragement and sharing your experience. Will try to do that too

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arethereanyleftatall · 13/02/2025 11:47

don't know how to explain adults strange ways to mine when we teach mine and the school teaches them to treat others nicely.

But you don't need to offer any explanation mostly because you don't know it. You don't even know if it's strange, it could be perfectly valid.

'I have absolutely no idea darling. Carry on playing with him at school, and let me know if there's someone else you'd like to invite instead.'

FoxtonFoxton · 13/02/2025 11:46

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:39

Except an upset young child that doesn't understand why the friend who wants to play isn't allowed to do so and hasnt been allowed for years?
On this occasion they are natural friends, best friends, not someone mothers chose. The way friendships are supposed to be.
I don't know how to explain adults strange ways to mine when we teach mine and the school teaches them to treat others nicely.

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I'd just be honest with DD and tell her you don't know why. You don't -it's not a lie. Tell her it's nothing she has done and then encourage her to invite others over. She'll be fine. She can still play with her friend at school. There's no point wasting your time trying to figure out the mind of a stranger who isn't interested in engaging with you.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:46

BLUEcups · 13/02/2025 10:50

It’s not nice OP and I understand why you’re feeling the way you do. Some people are weird and it’s her DC’s loss as well, which is bizarre as they’re losing out. Such is life and we can’t change the way other people act but try not to take it personal.

It’s not nice but it’s not bullying

Yes that's what I don't get, it's not good for the kids and their own kid loses out.

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Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:44

Tagyoureit · 13/02/2025 10:34

This!

And do you really want drama that would inevitably come along with this mum?

Just tell your daughter that her friend is busy and leave it at that. Organise other play dates with willing participants.

Will try thst Tag, thank you

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Endofyear · 13/02/2025 11:40

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:18

Okay but it just feels wrong to encourage your own child not to play with the friend they like when they along so well.
This is what's confusing- why would anyone do it to their child? I don't get it. She's been like that from the start.

It feels wrong to you but presumably she has her reasons. Maybe she just doesn't like you or your child? Sorry if that sounds blunt but it's really her decision and while you feel sad for your child, you just have to accept it. I would encourage your child to spend time with other friends.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:39

arethereanyleftatall · 13/02/2025 11:34

No idea op and there's is absolutely zero value to speculating unless you have absolutely nothing to do I guess. Especially as you seem inclined from your responses to want us to say something negative about her, based on nothing really. They'll be organising their own friendships outside of school very shortly anyway.

Except an upset young child that doesn't understand why the friend who wants to play isn't allowed to do so and hasnt been allowed for years?
On this occasion they are natural friends, best friends, not someone mothers chose. The way friendships are supposed to be.
I don't know how to explain adults strange ways to mine when we teach mine and the school teaches them to treat others nicely.

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Cheesesteakyum · 13/02/2025 11:37

Could be any number of reasons which you don’t know so best not to worry about it and just say to your child they’ve got a lot on.

I avoided play dates with one child because of some issues with one child that the mum seemed fine with, but don’t like confrontation so just said we had something else on was too busy for a while then she stopped asking again. I know it’s bad.

MissUltraViolet · 13/02/2025 11:35

Encourage DC to branch out and invite others round instead. They are getting to the age where parents tend to have less control and they have more independence when it comes to socialising outside of school and making their own decisions with who they spend time with.

Has this child and yours ever had any kind of falling out? Wondering whether the child may have ever said something negative to their mum about yours before?

ChangingColour · 13/02/2025 11:34

People are just downright odd.

But one mum once told me , that she normally wouldn’t have been friends with me at all, because I had daughters, and she had boys, but wanted a girl…!

Another one, because I had more than one child, and they really wanted another, but their husband wouldn’t. !

Another Mum complained about my daughter being friends with a girl, in infant school, who lived near her daughter, and that it was spoiling their friendship as the other girl wanted to play with my daughter not hers.

As I said, very odd people about.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/02/2025 11:34

No idea op and there's is absolutely zero value to speculating unless you have absolutely nothing to do I guess. Especially as you seem inclined from your responses to want us to say something negative about her, based on nothing really. They'll be organising their own friendships outside of school very shortly anyway.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 13/02/2025 11:31

CraneBeak · 13/02/2025 11:20

I do this. The little boy that my DC is best friends with doesn't behave nicely. Hits and pushes other children, bosses my DC around. Also his dad is frightening. I'm not comfortable leaving DC at their house and don't want to encourage the friendship.

It's good to hear your perspective.

But you never had them to yours or on neutral ground either?

How much hitting is involved - lashing out once or twice out of frustration as little kids do or regular hitting?

School never said anything about mines behaviour.

Some other kids the mother is fond of have less than good behaviour, threatening, disruptive, teachers having words but she still facilitates those friendships? She's friends with thr mother on that occassion.

Her own kid is sometimes a little rude or will blank other friends in the playground.

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wizzywig · 13/02/2025 11:30

If she is that way inclined, she'll be managing that friendship til they're 18

FoxtonFoxton · 13/02/2025 11:29

It's her problem, not yours. Don't let it worry you -arrange play dates with others and forget about it. If she isn't going to address it you can't do anything about it anyway so it's pointless thinking about it and wasting your time guessing what's wrong. She doesn't like you -oh well 🤷‍♀️. In a few years they'll all be off to secondary and you won't see the mum or think about it again.
I had a mum dislike me for some odd reason at primary. We had only ever been on a hello and goodbye level of socialising anyway, so when she started ignoring me and giving me dirty looks I laughed and let her get on with it. I completely forgot about it for a few years until she started saying hi again. Obviously my total non reaction became boring after a while!

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