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To ask if anyone has any experience of therapy that has worked for teenager with OCD?

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deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 21:27

My dd15 has OCD, it usually involves rituals that she has to go through when showering / bathing and getting dried / hair etc.
She also gets hyper fixated on various things to do with her health and her appearance.
In the last month or so, it’s become so extreme, that her shower rituals are taking hours. She knows in her head that this isn’t “normal”, but feels that she has no control over it.
She has an occupational therapist, but it’s so difficult to get her to engage with any help, it hasn’t really made a difference. She’s seeing a psychiatrist in a few weeks to discuss the possibility of medication.
It’s exhausting for her and me, I’m a single
parent with one income and it’s becoming a financial strain. Obviously her mental
health is my first priority, so I do everything I can to try and help.
Does anyone have any experience of therapy that has been successful in the treatment of this type of OCD? Or any books you would recommend?
I know we can’t continue like this, but I’m so stuck.

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TruJay · 01/12/2024 23:11

@deaperatelyunhappyandscared YES! Our washing pile is so extreme, ds will only wear clothes for a matter of hours and a new set is put on after each toilet visit, it is never ending!

It is so easy for people to say ‘oh just stop them!’ but they are not in the middle of this, it is absolutely not that simple.
I am married and DH is a huge help/support and when either of us loses our shit and just can’t take it anymore, we tag team and take over. I cannot imagine having to do this alone.
I have cried and begged ds to please try even just a little bit, I have screamed that I cannot do this anymore and he sobs too that ‘I can’t, I can’t do it mum!’ It’s absolutely heartbreaking. You cannot understand it unless you live it.

Please know you are doing amazingly and are not alone. I would seriously consider medication options just to allow your dd to begin to see the wood from the trees again.
Friendships have also been very difficult for ds and he has been horribly bullied through life but I have recently enrolled him in a local art class for teens and he’s enjoying it. He’s always loved to draw and although he said everyone just sits and draws in silence he actually enjoys the peace of it.
We’ve tried team sports or bigger group activities but it just never works, he can’t manage the social side of it.

Is there anything like that that your dd could try? Just even for an hour or two of escapism.

I hope you are doing ok 💐

FionaSkates · 01/12/2024 23:05

I had rally terrible OCD at her age too. Only I was on my own at boarding school which I don’t recommend for the severely mentally ill!

Honestly mine was brutal but the book ‘Overcoming OCD’ by Professor David Veale; I read it over one weekend and I have to say it basically cured me. I would buy it today and read it tomorrow if I were you!

Wishing you all the best xxx

sweetkitty · 01/12/2024 23:02

My DD has OCD, severe anxiety and agoraphobia. She’s been practically housebound for the past 2 years, she’s 20 now. It’s utterly heartbreaking to watch your child go through something like this, you all gave my sympathy.

DD has been on sertraline for years. She has a CPN and an OT. She has just finished with a psychologist as her 20 NHS sessions were up. I’m so frustrated with this as that’s it, she’s no better yet that’s it. We plan to find someone private in the New Year for her but it is so difficult as she really liked the psychologist she had so going to a new one will be hard for her and actually going there will be tricky. I’m thinking of online sessions.

deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 22:41

ThePure · 01/12/2024 22:36

It sounds as though she is depressed as well as having OCD in which case the meds might help a lot. Fluoxetine is 1st line for under 18s. She would need to stick with it for at least 6-8 weeks to see full benefit and it will feel as though it's doing nothing or even worse for the first few weeks so you have to encourage her to stick with it.

Absolutely, we will follow to the letter. Sertraline and fluoxetine were mentioned, as was propanolol for the anxiety, but I’m not sure if they meant both SSRI and propanolol.
I was misdiagnosed for years until I had a thorough psychiatric assessment and was diagnosed with bipolar. This was about 7 years ago and I have never been so stable for so long thanks to the right medication. It took some perseverance but it was 100% worth it.

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WearyAuldWumman · 01/12/2024 22:40

It was CBT plus clomipramine for me. Unfortunately, I put on a horrendous amount of weight. I believe that other drugs are now available.

deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 22:37

chocciemonster39 · 01/12/2024 22:30

Yes so sorry OCD can be so terrible. As other posters have mentioned, I believe the NICE recommendation is for CBT (but needs to be with a fully trained therapist) plus medication in severe cases. I think the usual treatment is “exposure and response” therapy, where the person gradually faces their fears. Tbh, I found this terrifying and needed to take an SSRI to take the edge off the fear (my OCD was severe) then it was lots of hard work. But it sounds like your DC has great support from you which should really help. SSRIs can have bad side effects and be hard to come off, but it’s a case of balancing up the possible benefits. If you could possibly look into private, I really recommend OCD Excellence, an organisation where I think all the therapists have had OCD themselves so have a great understanding. Also worth having a look at the OCD Action and OCD UK websites for further info and support groups. Feel free to PM me. Good luck x

Thank you so much, this is really helpful. I’m so glad I started this thread.

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ThePure · 01/12/2024 22:36

It sounds as though she is depressed as well as having OCD in which case the meds might help a lot. Fluoxetine is 1st line for under 18s. She would need to stick with it for at least 6-8 weeks to see full benefit and it will feel as though it's doing nothing or even worse for the first few weeks so you have to encourage her to stick with it.

deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 22:34

TruJay · 01/12/2024 22:21

So sorry you’re going through this too, it’s hell.
Ds was diagnosed with OCD at age 6, it started with ritualistic hand licking and blew up into an irrational fear of germs leading to wearing gloves for a solid 18months! He is petrified of getting sick. He also performs routines and counting to avoid anything bad happening to anyone he loves.

When Covid happened, he had a severe breakdown as everything we and CAMHS had ever told him wouldn’t/was very unlikely to happen, did. People wearing gloves and masks and people dying allover. It was horrific. That’s when he started medication (fluoxetine) he was very young to be on it but it was either that or frankly, suicide.

We have had ups and downs over the years from being somewhat manageable to a living nightmare. We are currently in a living nightmare, ds is almost 15 now so this has been our lives for a long time and things are very bad right now. He’s taken a nosedive over the past 4-6months. We have had to up his medication and take a far firmer approach where he is monitored while washing as he is making his skin bleed from all the scrubbing. He is under strict time limits as he was showering for 2+hours at a time, several times a day. He cannot go to the toilet without showering afterwards.

Putting limits on washing has honestly been like taking heroin away from an addict but we cannot allow him to just wash and wash and wash. We’ve had to sit with him sobbing/screaming in a ball on the floor making sounds I never thought a child could make, it’s truly horrific.
He cannot be left alone as I do not trust him not to hurt himself. He is on a reduced school timetable. Things are bad right now. I do not work because frankly it is impossible.

He has had several rounds of CBT and although we have had such wonderful people helping, I don’t think it works (for ds) as he is so unwilling to even try or sit with the exposure for even 10 seconds without washing.

I truly believe he would be dead without us choosing to put him on medication when he was younger. When he first went in the meds, it was like it gave him some clarity to actually think clearly again and we made some progress and saw glimmers of our happy boy again.
He was also diagnosed as Autistic age 11.

Upping his medication recently is starting to show some hopeful signs of that clarity again and we wonder whether his puberty growth spurts meant the lower dose was not enough for his new size??? Maybe, I don’t know. I so hope we can make it through this phase soon, I am almost broken, I have struggled so much this time around. I have a younger disabled daughter too.

Sorry, I am waffling but I have never had anyone else who knows exactly what this is like.

I am interested to read about peoples experiences with hypnotherapy so will be following to read more.

I’m so sorry to hear about your Ds, absolutely heartbreaking. It does sound very similar to the way my Ds is headed, her showers can be up to 3 hours long, her skin is red and sore, she sobs in the shower because she’s so tired and has so many other things surrounding the rituals (like changing her pyjamas and towels), that I’m constantly using the washer and dryer.
People tell me to stop her, but I’m on my
own and she’s a fully grown adult size (taller than me). Plus I’ve seen what happens when she can’t complete her rituals and it scares me. I think I need the guidance of a professional like you have had to be able to help her.
I have a job that I’ve cut down from full time to 20 hours to be able to be with her / supervise her, but it’s got so bad I’m currently taking time off and only living on ssp. I don’t know how much longer we can go on like this.

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chocciemonster39 · 01/12/2024 22:30

Yes so sorry OCD can be so terrible. As other posters have mentioned, I believe the NICE recommendation is for CBT (but needs to be with a fully trained therapist) plus medication in severe cases. I think the usual treatment is “exposure and response” therapy, where the person gradually faces their fears. Tbh, I found this terrifying and needed to take an SSRI to take the edge off the fear (my OCD was severe) then it was lots of hard work. But it sounds like your DC has great support from you which should really help. SSRIs can have bad side effects and be hard to come off, but it’s a case of balancing up the possible benefits. If you could possibly look into private, I really recommend OCD Excellence, an organisation where I think all the therapists have had OCD themselves so have a great understanding. Also worth having a look at the OCD Action and OCD UK websites for further info and support groups. Feel free to PM me. Good luck x

ThePure · 01/12/2024 22:29

CBT with ERP (exposure response prevention) is the only proven curative treatment for OCD. An SSRI combined with this will help it to work better but meds on their own are not enough.
Not all CBT therapists are any good. Hopefully she can see a psychologist as they ought to be better.

TruJay · 01/12/2024 22:21

So sorry you’re going through this too, it’s hell.
Ds was diagnosed with OCD at age 6, it started with ritualistic hand licking and blew up into an irrational fear of germs leading to wearing gloves for a solid 18months! He is petrified of getting sick. He also performs routines and counting to avoid anything bad happening to anyone he loves.

When Covid happened, he had a severe breakdown as everything we and CAMHS had ever told him wouldn’t/was very unlikely to happen, did. People wearing gloves and masks and people dying allover. It was horrific. That’s when he started medication (fluoxetine) he was very young to be on it but it was either that or frankly, suicide.

We have had ups and downs over the years from being somewhat manageable to a living nightmare. We are currently in a living nightmare, ds is almost 15 now so this has been our lives for a long time and things are very bad right now. He’s taken a nosedive over the past 4-6months. We have had to up his medication and take a far firmer approach where he is monitored while washing as he is making his skin bleed from all the scrubbing. He is under strict time limits as he was showering for 2+hours at a time, several times a day. He cannot go to the toilet without showering afterwards.

Putting limits on washing has honestly been like taking heroin away from an addict but we cannot allow him to just wash and wash and wash. We’ve had to sit with him sobbing/screaming in a ball on the floor making sounds I never thought a child could make, it’s truly horrific.
He cannot be left alone as I do not trust him not to hurt himself. He is on a reduced school timetable. Things are bad right now. I do not work because frankly it is impossible.

He has had several rounds of CBT and although we have had such wonderful people helping, I don’t think it works (for ds) as he is so unwilling to even try or sit with the exposure for even 10 seconds without washing.

I truly believe he would be dead without us choosing to put him on medication when he was younger. When he first went in the meds, it was like it gave him some clarity to actually think clearly again and we made some progress and saw glimmers of our happy boy again.
He was also diagnosed as Autistic age 11.

Upping his medication recently is starting to show some hopeful signs of that clarity again and we wonder whether his puberty growth spurts meant the lower dose was not enough for his new size??? Maybe, I don’t know. I so hope we can make it through this phase soon, I am almost broken, I have struggled so much this time around. I have a younger disabled daughter too.

Sorry, I am waffling but I have never had anyone else who knows exactly what this is like.

I am interested to read about peoples experiences with hypnotherapy so will be following to read more.

deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 22:15

Thank you all so much. This has really helped me. I do really try and remain positive, but it’s getting harder the longer and worse it gets.

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ShootyBumPain · 01/12/2024 22:08

@deaperatelyunhappyandscared It's most definitely worth a try. I'd only ever seen the dramatised versions of hypnosis on TV and I honestly thought it was a load of bollocks. It was a bit of a last resort to give it a go myself as I'd become really unwell both mentally and physically due to my OCD and was running out of options.
I had 3 sessions in total at the beginning of this year and I don't know how or why it worked, but I started to be able to think much more rationally as it took away so much of the anxiety that was preventing logic. It's nothing like the stuff you see on TV.

Plastictrees · 01/12/2024 22:06

@deaperatelyunhappyandscared It can be a very long process, I really feel for you both. Being prepared with questions is a very good idea. I would definitely be asking about the need for further psychological therapy, with a therapist or psychologist - she needs an intensive course of CBT which is NICE recommended. Ideally with a Clinical Psychologist as it sounds as though there is a lot going here and an integrative approach would be helpful. Don’t feel afraid to ask questions and be assertive - it is absolutely your right as a parent.

Jo14357 · 01/12/2024 22:06

CBT plus ERP plus Prozac is working for my 17yr old

fashionqueen0123 · 01/12/2024 22:06

A family member had a similar but different issue at about age 10. Their parents took them to a hypnotherapist after trying after things, with a great deal of skepticism. But it worked! So may be worth trying. Interesting to see other people have mentioned it on here too.

Tangofanta · 01/12/2024 22:04

My DS has had CBT under CAMHS for this but what has helped more to be honest has been sertraline. I was initially reluctant to go down that road (we had a lot of discussion with professionals and ultimately it was his choice) but it's made a massive improvement to his life.

Wynston · 01/12/2024 22:03

Beamur · 01/12/2024 21:46

I think the right therapist is key.

emdr therapy was the most affective for me.
I had 2 lots of cbt and one period of counselling.
I always wanted to know what triggered my ocd as i felt that was key to getting better.
Im not entirely fixed but so much better than I ever dreamed I would be

deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 22:00

ShootyBumPain · 01/12/2024 21:55

I have OCD and I can't recommend hypnotherapy enough (providing you research the hypnotherapist really well and they've plenty of positive reviews and experience). I have had CBT and medication in the past and they do help, no doubt, but not on the level that hypnotherapy helped me. It very much saved my life.

It’s good to hear that you found something that helped you, Thank you for sharing your experience. I will definitely look into hypnotherapy.

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deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 21:58

CAMHS (CYPS now where I am) have referred her for the ASD assessment, they also referred her to the occupational therapist, who then put her forward to speak to a psychiatrist regarding medication. Its been a very long process.

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deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 21:56

Thank you for these suggestions, I feel like
it would really help me to go into the appointment prepared with some questions and possible suggestions for therapy.
I can’t really afford private, but I would consider it depending on the cost if I thought it would help. I could possibly get some financial help with it.

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ShootyBumPain · 01/12/2024 21:55

I have OCD and I can't recommend hypnotherapy enough (providing you research the hypnotherapist really well and they've plenty of positive reviews and experience). I have had CBT and medication in the past and they do help, no doubt, but not on the level that hypnotherapy helped me. It very much saved my life.

Plastictrees · 01/12/2024 21:55

@deaperatelyunhappyandscared what are CAMHS doing?

deaperatelyunhappyandscared · 01/12/2024 21:53

It is. I think the past couple of months have been the most horrendous. She has put on a lot of weight as she does no exercise, is too scared to go out for a walk (even with me) and is now even more stuck
in a rut because she feels too big to go anywhere.
I’ve tried suggesting indoor walking, YouTube workouts, just anything to get some
activity, as I’ve explained that exercise can help our mood. She just has no motivation anymore, no resilience, she has no life really.

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