Captain Tom's daughter

This, it's absolutely pathetic. Read what you like. I read the paper version (different editor) and there's often excellent articles, often from the left as well.

Who knows? He might have been in on the plan from the start. He could be as bad as his daughter. She’s ruined his reputation as well as her own for a lot of people.

It depends on whether what she did was illegal or unwise. I'm not sure it was illegal.

Getting yourself paid a big salary - unwise. Charging for a public appearance - unwise. Implying a book deal will result in money going to charity - grey area.

I've not read the full story so I'm not sure exactly what she's accused of.

Took him away and he caught covid and died. Odd family. They fancied a holiday and didn't consider him catching covid on holiday problematic? Odd.

I still think of him walking his garden. I believe he was innocent of the later duplicity.

A lot of people did weird things during covid lockdowns

100% agree. She had a FB page going for him before the adoption even went through - cannot believe social services never challenged this. I have mutual friends so he showed up on my feed a lot and it made me so uncomfortable. It’s his story to tell, not hers.

Disingenuous not to have had

I think it would be disingenuous to think that Hannah really had the optics of this in mind from a early stage when she set about promoting her father. In a sense she did her job well as a PR professional; maybe too well.

the success and national attention may to her have been a reward for self cloned marketing genius and as the 'marketing professional' behind Tom thought she deserves appropriate remuneration somehow. I suppose it's like the blokes who came up with the prime drink during that craze.

the money for her PR coup obviously was misdirected from his charity and maybe in her mind she was just using a method to acquire the money she felt she deserve d and it's all went south big time for her.

So when's the prosecution going to be announced? £1m taken from a charity without the necessary evidence ref its use etc.

Sounds like a case of F to me...

I have to admit when they took him overseas on holiday I knew he'd get covid. That made me question her.

Seeing Captain Tom's sweet face on the news tonight I feel glad he has passed on, thank heavens he knows nothing about it.

@TheHangingGardensOfBasildon I’m at two minds about celebrities participating in game shows and other fundraising events for charity. On one hand, it can feel a tad icky knowing they often have the means to quietly donate without making a spectacle of it. On the other hand, these events do shine a spotlight on lesser-known charities and organizations that might otherwise struggle to gain attention and recognition. There’s only so much that they can do to raise awareness on their own, and this kind of exposure that the celebrities’ participation can give, can make a significant difference.

Very nicely put!

Off topic but I'm wondering what it must have cost in travel insurance to get a 100 year old to Barbados. That must have made a dent.

They are scumbags. Shameful and I hope they're held to account.

There were Captain Tom duvet covers and even mini skirts...

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/captain-tom-moore-mini-skirt-b1798227.html

https://www.channel4.com/news/tax-avoidance-george-michael-melua-arctic-monkeys-liberty

For someone who was allegedly good at PR, she's certainly shit at reputation management.

What I found quite extraordinary is lots of people seemed to think the money was going to the NHS, rather than NHS charities.

But when it comes to taxpayer funding for the actual NHS, lots of people are less keen to stump up.

Yes it felt orchestrated from the start. A combination of the government, mainstream media and unscrupulous family members went into overdrive to promote Captain Tom as a national treasure. I really don't believe he was aware of the personal financial gain. It seemed to me he just did as his daughter instructed.

Feels like the wheels are coming off celebrity endorsed charity. Children in Need’s viewing figures slumped and people complained about Paddy and his kid’s bike being shoved in our faces.

Ed Sheeran and others have started a conversation about how patronising Band Aid is towards Africa.

Captain Tom was not what he seemed.

As others have said, rich celebs pestering ordinary folk to give up their hard earned cash to a charity feels wrong, Just shut up and donate privately like the wonderful George Michael did.

Really? That’s very surprising. An intention to defraud and actual fraud, but doesn’t meet the threshold? That drags the law into disrepute, on top.

The whole thing was incredibly jarring from the start. The awful privilege he had to walk around the family estate while his poorer peers were perishing in old folks homes and the jingoistic obsession people had with it

Only thing more weird than the hysteria over Captain Tom - and the banging pots and pans for the NHS on Thursday night - was the mass mourning when he died. It was more hysterical than anything since Diana at the time.

It's not the journey. You've already there, in Hell.

Why was he still being called 'Captain' Tom? It's my understanding that if your rank is anything below Major you're not allowed to use it once you have left the military? My father served in the forces for 12 years, but never tried to utilise his rank once he was out.