Captain Tom's daughter

No it’s not. However I don’t have a lot of money either, so my donations take away from me and mine. I don’t want my donations to go to Jenny from accounts to buy herself something nice from Phase 8. This is why I no longer give to big charities and only give to local ones where no one is skimming money off the donations.

They've got a slap on the wrist, but there's no criminal case here - so they get to keep all the money and buy a new mansion somewhere and still get to enjoy their pickings off their dead dad and the goodwill of people - sickening

OK, so how would you feel if public sector workers were all given a £50 gift card for Christmas, paid by the taxpayer?

I've worked in the public sector for many years and we even had to pay for tea and coffee, never mind receiving Christmas presents!

As a PP said, it's not why people donate to charity. If I donate I want most of the money to go to the cause, and understand that there will be admin costs as well, but absolutely am not donating for luxury gifts for the staff, whether or not they are paid or volunteers.

Agreed.

For example, I had to alert the management of a charity working with vulnerable people that frontline staff on low salaries were making personal gifts of food to vulnerable service users on a regular basis when the charity's own support ran out.

These frontline workers were paid less not only because they were choosing the job for the passion of it, they were also, speaking bluntly, not likely to get better employment elsewhere.

A fifty quid gift card wasn't going to break the bank for the charity, but it gave a bit of gratitude and dignity to people doing far more than they could ever be valued for.

The area of work was youth rehabilitation, by the way, so perhaps consider that the £50 came from the many thousands saved from the state treasury in preventing crime and deprivation, rather than from your own pocket.

Wonder what happened to all the birthday cards he got?

I remember saying at the time,that the whole thing wasn't as organic as they like to claim

There was more to it than the gs setting up a gofundme (innocently and for a few extra quid) and it getting picked up and the media running with it-rich old man,living in a massive house,white and middle class

There was a lot more organisation than that-they set out to make him a media 'name'

They will have had the contacts and the know-how

Then,when the money started rolling in,they saw their chance (which was the intention all along)

They will have been gutted they couldn't touch the 39 mil but that it was the means to the end

Then,the charity was set up-and they knew they would cream off what they could

And their 'type' didn't see anything wrong in this (I know their sort well,I have a family member that would do exactly the same if given the smallest chance)

They still don't see they did anything wrong,even though the world is saying they did-in their heads,everyone would have done the same/they deserved the money so whats the problem?

I'm not sure if he was 'in on it' but now we'll never know for certain

The one thing I'm 100% sure of is,he knew what she was like,how could he not?she's his daughter

I said this at the time-to my mil (who agreed with me-shes seen it all before) and at work where I was ripped to pieces (younger kids who swallowed the hype about this fluffy,war hero old man and his family)

I didn't know they fundraised for his birthday party-thats a new low

They are minted-pay for your own party!

Sheer greed-they had loads and wanted more,even at the cost of their reputations (it does piss me off,a tiny bit,that she's had more bad press than her husband-he was in on it as much as she was)

I think that abuse of charities is awful. However; the regulatory environment worked here. It might be slow (probably as need to be fair and give due process) but it has been investigated and she and her husband are not allowed to be involved in the running of charities moving forward.

Standing up at Wimbledon and waving madly when real achieving famous people just waved from a seated position in a dignified way.

"True accountability demands transparency, not selective storytelling."

Next up will be "We will be giving a full account of the truth of the matter in due course. But for now we think it's time for everyone to move on."

Translation: "They've got us bang to rights, now please shut up, and 'in due course' means 'never'".

Colour me surprised - err, not. I remember saying to my partner at the time that old bloke is likely going to be exploited and the daughter has shameless grifter written all over her. Shame.

No, of course they can't. The sort of poster who holds that sort of view about charities is never much of a thinker. The solution to this sort of shit is a regulator with lots of teeth, not stupid magical thinking.

Hannah orchestrated the whole thing - i wish that she could be sued somehow and made to payback every single penny. She wont care about her fathers good name being tarnished tho - shes just after the money.

The DM used to have a slot in it about MN back in the day.

But why care what strangers think. I read it on line. Don't care what strangers think about it. Too many sheep on here, thinking they are cool to slate it.

It's a good job Captain Tom isn't around now to hear all this.
It was abit daytime taking a man of that Age to Barbados.
Wasn't there another sister and 2 grandchildren. You don't hear anything about them. Wonder how it's affected them?

I used to work in a department store and every year a well known charity came in and bought 50 gift cards for £50 for their staff Christmas party. Whilst I’m sure they deserved it, I used to donate to that charity and when I did I didn’t do it for their staff Christmas gift I did it for the recipients in terrible situations supposedly being helped by the charity

Staff working for charities are often expected to make do with less because they work for a charity, often in teams that are chronically under resourced and with tiny budgets. £50 is hardly the earth.

Is the home she lives in hers or was it Tom's? Had her sister ever commented?

I am a trustee of a local charity and this sort of behaviour absolutely shames all of us. I am an unpaid volunteer,. I and my fellow trustees have never taken a penny in expenses or been paid for anything that we do. we do it because we want to make a difference to our small rural community and we know that we do because we see it and hear about it all the time. This whole thing reeked of fraud right from the very start. It was the daughter who suggested the walking and the poor old man was just a pawn. she saw an opportunity and she exploited it and milked it and ultimately she led to his death by dragging a nearly 100 year old man on a foreign holiday that apparently "he wanted". that will be on her conscience for ever I hope. The charity commission has shown its teeth and I hope it goes after all those other charities behaving in this way. anyone remember Camila Batmanghelidjh? this is not an isolated case.

What a shock 🙄

I remember this place at the time. Attacks on those who said it was odd, deleted posts for daring to speak against it all. It was a crock of shit at the time and we all got a lot of crap hurled at us for saying so.

Bet none of those people will own up to it now though.

Oh and we had a neighbour come round to ask why we weren't busy banging pots and pans- because dear neighbour I would rather the gvt had give a £750 a month uplift payment to NHS and care workers than spend 37 billion on an incredibly pointless track and trace app etc -

Was as obvious as her curly hair.

Years ago I used to work in recruitment and I placed lots of people in charities. They usually got paid a bit less than similar jobs but they all did it because they felt it was helping a cause. Not saying this is right, but it has swung the other way.

Now I only give to 2 charities. A local food/clothing bank that was set up to directly help children and their families, and my local homeless charity.

I used to work in a department store and every year a well known charity came in and bought 50 gift cards for £50 for their staff Christmas party. Whilst I’m sure they deserved it, I used to donate to that charity and when I did I didn’t do it for their staff Christmas gift I did it for the recipients in terrible situations supposedly being helped by the charity.

Strange thing is there is something about her that reminds me of how I personally imagine some of the more 'intolerant of anyone struggling, high net worth' pony club , private school obsessives and huge house mumsnetters!

Thing is if she had kept it as a nice little earner but still with lots to the foundation and maybe took for herself £300k over a couple of years - I doubt it would be noticed- clearly though they became immensely greedy - the old 'much wants more'

You sound nice.

I know somebody who pocketed thousands by claining their nailbar was closed. The same nailbar that had never opened.

Multiply this by tens of thousands.