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MIL lied about genetic condition

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MyChirpyRoseDuck · 02/11/2024 16:19

Please bear with me, first time posting but really need some other unbiased perspective! My DH and I have been married for 13 years, and have two sons aged 10 and 6. About two years ago my DH started loosing feeling in his arm, lost his hearing in one ear, a range of symptoms. Cue multiple scans, trips to hospital and Drs. I eventually persuade DH to just let his mum know. As a mum, I’d want to know. I’ve always struggled with MIL, found her manipulative, tried to parent our children etc but maintained a reasonable relationship for the kids. Anyway, DH told MIL of the health problems. About 2 weeks later she calls, in floods of tears to admit she has a genetic condition and it’s likely he has it too. She’s known since he was 17 (we are in our 40’s). She didn’t seem to think that telling him was important. I’m furious. It’s a condition that’s not going to kill him but it’s going to impact his life, more severely as he gets older. I’m pretty mad that she didn’t tell him. But what I cannot forgive her for is that we went on to have children without genetic counselling. Our kids could have the same condition. Would I change my kids? Never. But would we have taken a different route had we known? Probably. I want nothing to do with her, but will continue to see her with the kids so they can have a relationship. My mum thinks I need to get over it. I’m just so mad. AIBU?

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Tittat50 · 02/11/2024 17:00

RememberJez · 02/11/2024 16:57

@Tittat50 Sounds similar to mine. Very rough isn’t it Flowers

We probably both know what we're talking about here. I think the only saving grace is the outcomes can be significantly different for each person.
💐 for you.

RememberJez · 02/11/2024 17:02

Tittat50 · 02/11/2024 17:00

We probably both know what we're talking about here. I think the only saving grace is the outcomes can be significantly different for each person.
💐 for you.

Yes everyone in my family is affected differently. Mine is starting to mess with me now. It’s scary. I didn’t have kids in the end.

JFDIYOLO · 02/11/2024 17:02

She absolutely should have warned her son as soon as she knew. So he could perhaps make lifestyle choices, be aware of symptoms and seek help at a very early stage, possibly being able to control and manage the condition better. So OP could have factored that in to her choice re having children. MIL screwed up.

RememberJez · 02/11/2024 17:03

Tittat50 · 02/11/2024 17:00

We probably both know what we're talking about here. I think the only saving grace is the outcomes can be significantly different for each person.
💐 for you.

And thank you @Tittat50

Gingernaut · 02/11/2024 17:04

Mickey79 · 02/11/2024 16:48

Well mil didnt really let him go through all manner of tests. She didnt know he was having symptoms until very recently. Perhaps they are the type of family who aren’t very open with each other? Mil didn’t disclose a genetic problem. Dh didn’t tell dm about his symptoms until op made him. Family dynamics can be strange,

However, MIL knew her son was serious about someone one, knew when he got married, knew when they were trying for children and knew when the children were born

She had ample opportunity to tell her son and her DIL before this genetic car crash became a potential multi car pile up

Her son and perhaps her grandchildren are at risk of this condition

Mischance · 02/11/2024 17:04

We have the CF gene in our family - only found out after a GC was born. I am a carrier (with all the now known carrier symptoms), ditto one of my DDs. We informed my siblings so they could choose what to do for themselves and their offspring. We would not have dreamt of doing otherwise.

It was particularly pertinent for a niece who was at that time planning to start a family - but in fact my brother (her father, who turned out also to be a carrier) decided not to tell her - I thought that was a bad decision but said nowt. In fact she proved to be infertile (which is common among carriers.).

It is a subject fraught with anxiety, but I do think it is best to be open and honest. I would have found it impossible not to be and I think your MIL was very remiss indeed not to pass this information on. She did not need to say that it was her, but just that it is in the family. A difficult situation for you all.

thepariscrimefiles · 02/11/2024 17:05

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 16:29

YABU, she only found out when he was 17 and it was her decision to make to share or not. I am sorry but her right to medical privacy over rides your right to know.

We have been through this with breast cancer gene. It is better handled now. At 18 my sons will be advised they may be at higher risk due to familial tests, but it won't disclose who. They will have access to screening.

This to me is the way it should be, protection for individuals and privacy respected.

Surely this is information her son should have had when making a decision whether to have a family as it is a hereditary condition?

For some hereditary conditions, genetic counselling and screening is available when trying to have a baby. OP and her DH have been denied that opportunity.

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 17:05

bitsalty · 02/11/2024 16:33

I don't agree with the PP at all. Her son had the right to know about the condition and be tested and especially before he took the decision to have children.

To wait until he had symptoms is awful.

There is literally law stating that the MIL has the right to medical privacy.

That is why alternative processes need to be implemented to protect that legal protection.

Genetic screening should also become more accessible.

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 17:06

2024onwardsandup · 02/11/2024 16:35

Of course the op and her dhs right to know about risk to their children overrides her “privacy”.

i would maintain a relationship with her for the children but i would be very very clear
about boundaries and I would not be providing her with any support etc

The law says otherwise.

Flossflower · 02/11/2024 17:06

Tittat50 · 02/11/2024 16:56

This is a difficult one.

I have a genetic condition with a 50% inheritance risk. I only discovered this after I had a child and my body started falling apart and other conditions joined the party.

I don't discuss the genetic condition with my teen because I could not bare the fear it would ignite when they have watched me suffer so much and spend alot of time in hospital. There is also the fact that this condition can manifest differently in different people, some don't even notice, women also seem to suffer far worse than males. I sit and wait and only hope nothing appears.

By the time my child is an adult, I would have to think long and hard about how and when to tell them. I personally would not want this passed on. I don't want to up end child's life either. But there's the possibility of a good life even with this; my outcome has been very unfortunate. It's possible all this was in MILs mind.

I think there's a deeper issue here in that your MIL sounds like a problematic person and I'm guessing may have different values and morals to you She may be the type who won't take accountability for this.

You can only look forward and focus on how to help husband and explore whether your children may be affected.

So sorry for you to learn all this. 💐

Ending a child’s life is a decision for parents not grandparents.

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 17:08

Woahtherehoney · 02/11/2024 16:36

But it’s not just HER right is it? Her son may have it so surely he should have a right to know too? If it only impacted her then fair enough but she thought it may impact him but never told him? That’s wrong.

And the law says it is her decision. You can't break laws for ethics. That is why I clearly stated the alternative way to protect her legally held protection while enlisting screening.

Butterflytown · 02/11/2024 17:09

ya absolutely nbu. Your MIL has been unbelievably selfish. She could and should have told your DH as soon as he was of an age to understand that he potentially had a genetic condition so that he could get tested (if available), keep an eye out for symptoms, potentially have preventative monitoring/ treatment and make an informed decision via genetic counselling whether to have children himself. I wouid he absolutely livid and would be telling her so, and I think I would find it very hard to have anything to do with your MIL ever again. I have a serious genetic condition and when I was a teenager the implications of it on me and any future children were explained so I was able to make informed decisions. Many people with my condition choose not to have children or have in utero testing. I can’t believe your MIL thought it was ok not to say anything. She’s played roulette with your DC and DH’s health.

MassiveOvaryaction · 02/11/2024 17:09

They don't talk much in his family do they? Multiple scans/hospital/doctor visits before you had to persuade him to tell his own mother something was wrong?!

thepariscrimefiles · 02/11/2024 17:10

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 17:06

The law says otherwise.

The law says otherwise but OP's MIL could have told her son. It was her decision to make, but in my opinion, she made the wrong decision.

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 17:10

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 02/11/2024 16:59

Yanbu.
When you discover you have a genetic, hereditary condition it is not just your medical information. It is also the medical information of anyone you've passed your genes down to.

There's a thread on reddit actually where the parents knew they'd got the genes for Huntingtons and kept it secret. It was awful. One of their adult children was dx and even after that they got angry at that child for telling the other children.

When it is something that can be passed down, you don't have the right to deny people the information they need to make informed decisions about getting tested themselves, or deciding whether to have children

The law says otherwise. It is her private medical history. It isn't up for debate as the law protects. That's why alternative ways need to be brought in to protect people.

Vaxtable · 02/11/2024 17:10

All those saying it’s her business, yes it is for her, but her condition is genetic, and whilst she only found out when her son was 17 she is absolutely wrong to not say anything to him because it could be passed to her grandchildren who hadn’t even been born at the time she found out. She didn’t have to do it when he was 17 but she should off once he was married or in a serious relationship that could lead to children

Her son has now found out the hard way he has the condition, and has to live with that as well as the fact he could have passed it onto his children, all because she was, in my opinion, very selfish

I would find it very hard to forgive her

IsitanIssue · 02/11/2024 17:11

Outrageously selfish behaviour by the mother in law. He could have spent the last 20 years creating a lifestyle/diet/plans/career choices that mediated his future symptoms and circumstances. People saying it wasn’t her son’s right to have knowledge about his own future health are terrifying. He could have deliberately worked harder for early retirement! So scary that people can think this is ok 😫

outandunder · 02/11/2024 17:12

That's really horrible of her.
Your DH could have had the chance to develop a career which wasn't dependent on his physical health (eg no point trsining to a pilot or forklift driver) as he got older.
Also (and I sound the reason why she didn't tell you) he may or may not have chosen to have children.
Very manipulative.

RockaLock · 02/11/2024 17:14

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 16:29

YABU, she only found out when he was 17 and it was her decision to make to share or not. I am sorry but her right to medical privacy over rides your right to know.

We have been through this with breast cancer gene. It is better handled now. At 18 my sons will be advised they may be at higher risk due to familial tests, but it won't disclose who. They will have access to screening.

This to me is the way it should be, protection for individuals and privacy respected.

I'm sorry, I can't understand this viewpoint at all.

We found out when my DS2 was born that he had inherited a rare genetic condition from me. I am mainly just a carrier with very few symptoms, whereas he is much more severely affected. We knew nothing about this condition until DS2 was born.

It never ever crossed my mind not to be completely honest with him all his life about his condition and how it was inherited. Why would I want to hide it? It's not a shameful thing, that I have a dodgy gene. He has every right to know exactly how he and any future children will be affected.

OP, I would be furious with MIL as well. If she knew she had a condition that might affect her (future) grandchildren, I cannot understand her not being open about it with you.

Cerealkiller4U · 02/11/2024 17:14

MyChirpyRoseDuck · 02/11/2024 16:19

Please bear with me, first time posting but really need some other unbiased perspective! My DH and I have been married for 13 years, and have two sons aged 10 and 6. About two years ago my DH started loosing feeling in his arm, lost his hearing in one ear, a range of symptoms. Cue multiple scans, trips to hospital and Drs. I eventually persuade DH to just let his mum know. As a mum, I’d want to know. I’ve always struggled with MIL, found her manipulative, tried to parent our children etc but maintained a reasonable relationship for the kids. Anyway, DH told MIL of the health problems. About 2 weeks later she calls, in floods of tears to admit she has a genetic condition and it’s likely he has it too. She’s known since he was 17 (we are in our 40’s). She didn’t seem to think that telling him was important. I’m furious. It’s a condition that’s not going to kill him but it’s going to impact his life, more severely as he gets older. I’m pretty mad that she didn’t tell him. But what I cannot forgive her for is that we went on to have children without genetic counselling. Our kids could have the same condition. Would I change my kids? Never. But would we have taken a different route had we known? Probably. I want nothing to do with her, but will continue to see her with the kids so they can have a relationship. My mum thinks I need to get over it. I’m just so mad. AIBU?

I mean my dads just been diagnosed with a type of cancer which is nearly always genetic.

he didn’t know. Me and the kids now have to be tested. I know how you feel though as it’s terrifying. .

Tittat50 · 02/11/2024 17:15

@Flossflower do you mean that the decision to have a child should be fully informed by the parents with all the knowledge available?

If so, yes, I can completely understand that.

RememberJez · 02/11/2024 17:16

I can’t see any posts saying it’s okay to the poster above.

How has it never come up before? How is his mum coping with it?

I don’t think calling for her blood is a great idea, yes it’s really selfish of her but not sure cutting her off is a good idea. Are they close? All you can do is move foreward now.

RememberJez · 02/11/2024 17:17

outandunder · 02/11/2024 17:12

That's really horrible of her.
Your DH could have had the chance to develop a career which wasn't dependent on his physical health (eg no point trsining to a pilot or forklift driver) as he got older.
Also (and I sound the reason why she didn't tell you) he may or may not have chosen to have children.
Very manipulative.

We don’t even know what the condition is.

AgnesX · 02/11/2024 17:18

Marblesbackagain · 02/11/2024 16:29

YABU, she only found out when he was 17 and it was her decision to make to share or not. I am sorry but her right to medical privacy over rides your right to know.

We have been through this with breast cancer gene. It is better handled now. At 18 my sons will be advised they may be at higher risk due to familial tests, but it won't disclose who. They will have access to screening.

This to me is the way it should be, protection for individuals and privacy respected.

So, if it's hereditary you think her son had no right to be told that he might be in line for it? You're telling your family when they become young adults, this man didn't even get that and and with it knowledge.

Sorry, but I think OP has the right to be monumentally pissed off.

cestlavielife · 02/11/2024 17:19

Maybe she hoped genetic lottery would mean he did not have it? Eg 50-50 chance. So she hoped no need to reveal . Was her decision.

Can you blood test for it?
Is it going to limit life?
Now you do have the information so if a test is available you can decide to test you dp and your dc .
Go see genetic counselling to decide.