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To go pick brother up? Released from prison

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Mrsgrapesauce · 25/08/2024 11:10

Brother has a history of heroin abuse last 10 years unfortunately. He was caught shoplifting 6 months ago and went to jail. He has done so well there managed to gain weight and had a job whilst there and was receiving support.

He has gone back to my mums now where all of his temptations are. Speaking with him he sound so clear headed and wants to change but doesn’t have the support.

I have 2 weeks off work now where I feel I can fully commit and support him. I plan to take him away for a week with mum just so I let him see another side of life. Planning on setting him up with a passport and finding a job to keep him busy.

DH thinks im wasting my time but I really feel I can do it. I lost my other brother due to a drug addiction and I don’t want to lose him.

OP posts:
greatvisuals · 25/08/2024 14:59

Addicts need to be surrounded with all the friend, family and community support they can get.
People do get clean and become survivors with repeated and consistent support. It can take several/many attempts so you need to be strong and resilient.
Just don't be harsh on yourselves if it doesn't work out.
Good luck
Flowers

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 25/08/2024 14:51

I'd give him a shot.

It always surprises me when they put so much effort into getting addicts clean, they thrive.......then they let the poor fuckers go back to their old areas where the cycle starts again. A fresh start somewhere new is exactly what him and the rest of them need.

wizzywig · 25/08/2024 14:45

What is your brother doing to help himself? What has changed?

wizzywig · 25/08/2024 14:42

He needs a bridging script. Bank hols are awful for trying to get an appt with a substance misuse service for this

circular1985 · 25/08/2024 14:37

I would do the same if it was my brother.

Deipara · 25/08/2024 14:35

An amazing sister. 👏

MoiraRoseForever · 25/08/2024 14:33

MoiraRoseForever · 25/08/2024 14:31

He will need to be on a script and when he starts it’s daily pick up and supervised by pharmacist . He has to see the prescriber regularly as they will tritate ip the dose

Hopefully he has been linked ip to the local service . He may have been on script in prison . He needs to see a service urgently to discuss his support . And OP , please seek advice from the services and not here . People mean well but there is a very clear process around scripts . Here are services that will support him . If he is using they will do harm reduction . But they are the experts in this and many have used themselves and are in long term recovery .

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/08/2024 14:31

Mrsgrapesauce · 25/08/2024 11:46

We have 3 young kids. DH thinks I’m wasting time and money and thinks I should be spending time with the kids before they go back to school.

But i never have this kind of time help him so it’s come at a perfect time.

Though I'll say quite frankly that I have no experience with addiction I can see your DH's point

Give it a go by all means, but for pity's sake be clear in your own mind as to what your boundaries are so that it doesn't turn into everythiing being solved if you "just" do this or "just" do that, and all at a potential cost to your own family

MoiraRoseForever · 25/08/2024 14:31

trippily · 25/08/2024 14:00

If you call a pharmacy local to where you are staying and check with them that they do do scripts, then ask whoever is prescribing to send his prescription there. I have done it and it was relatively easy.

He will need to be on a script and when he starts it’s daily pick up and supervised by pharmacist . He has to see the prescriber regularly as they will tritate ip the dose

Getonwitit · 25/08/2024 14:31

Try this one last time.

fedupoftheheatnow · 25/08/2024 14:27

RisingSunn · 25/08/2024 14:14

I would say support him to a level - but don’t let this impact your marriage and your young children. They are the priority - as selfish as that may sound.

Different members of your family can be priorities at different times.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/08/2024 14:25

Zanatdy · 25/08/2024 14:15

Well I think it’s a great thing to do. Your DH wouldn’t be saying that if it was his sibling and he had already lost one. You can only try

He might. Plenty do.

He's not an ex- or recovered addict if he's dependent upon Methadone. He's an active addict that is being prescribed a poor alternative (in the view of the people who use it) to stave off the worst of withdrawals in the hope that he won't go straight to another dealer. He'll always be able to find one wherever he is, and the crimes he committed are still 'him'. He wasn't helpless, he found a way that was acceptable to him to get what he wanted. Many addicts will turn up absolutely pinned and say 'Oh, it's my medication, why are you having a go at me?' when it's not. See also wearing sunglasses and nicking anything that's not nailed down, including somebody else's medication, kids' toys, assorted cash or household goods, not just for smack but for anything they want, as that's something they know how to do. There's also the risk of substituting with alcohol.

Zanatdy · 25/08/2024 14:15

Well I think it’s a great thing to do. Your DH wouldn’t be saying that if it was his sibling and he had already lost one. You can only try

RisingSunn · 25/08/2024 14:14

I would say support him to a level - but don’t let this impact your marriage and your young children. They are the priority - as selfish as that may sound.

YellowTassels · 25/08/2024 14:13

How lovely, everyone needs love and support at this time and most don’t have it. Try and link him with local recovery services and NA or SMART

ilovesooty · 25/08/2024 14:12

Freysimo · 25/08/2024 13:47

This is what happened to my son. Released Friday morning with weekend looming and no support. He overdosed and died that day.

I'm so sorry. He was badly failed by the sound of it.

Gallowayan · 25/08/2024 14:08

Its more about what he is going to do for himself. I mention this because you talk about getting him a passport/taking him on holiday/getting him a job in your post. He can't be the passive subject of his own rehabilitation.

If he has been clean for the six months he spent in prison (?) he will no longer be physically addicted; so he is ready to look for work, and then his own accommodation.

You can only be an enabler you can't do the work that he needs to do for himself.

He is saying the right things, but people in his situation always do. I would set a limit on how long you will be putting a roof over his head for, and make this conditional on getting work of some kind and not using.

GoogleWhacking · 25/08/2024 14:06

www.england.nhs.uk/commissioning/health-just/reconnect/

This service is available for most prisoners and can help with methadone and other scripts. You can refer him or he can self refer for up to 28 days post release for support. A lit of the staff are ex offenders themselves so know what it is like to be released.

Leaving prison is a dangerous time for addicts. I thi k if you can support you should. FYI prisons let out early in the morning so be prepared to be there by 8am.

trippily · 25/08/2024 14:00

If you call a pharmacy local to where you are staying and check with them that they do do scripts, then ask whoever is prescribing to send his prescription there. I have done it and it was relatively easy.

fedupoftheheatnow · 25/08/2024 13:54

@Freysimo

"This is what happened to my son. Released Friday morning with weekend looming and no support. He overdosed and died that day."

Very sorry for your loss Flowers

bluegreygreen · 25/08/2024 13:51

Please have a thorough discussion with your husband about limits and boundaries. He will understand you wanting to help but will be worried about the impact on you and your children.

You should discuss boundaries regarding time, money, house visits etc

Freysimo · 25/08/2024 13:47

ilovesooty · 25/08/2024 12:15

I'm afraid he may well have stopped off somewhere to score. If prisoners aren't closely supervised on release before attending their community drug team appointments it's unfortunately what they do.

This is what happened to my son. Released Friday morning with weekend looming and no support. He overdosed and died that day.

Americano75 · 25/08/2024 13:42

He's a lucky man to have a sister like you fighting this with him. I wish you all so much luck.

Somertime · 25/08/2024 13:39

He will need permission from probation to go out of the country. Don't book anything until you have spoken to them.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 25/08/2024 13:39

As long as you only give what you can afford to lose, financially, practically and emotionally then it is your choice, not DHs.
I have been there and done that. And I don't regret it.