Jay Slaters mum asking for more donations

I think it's an awful way for anyone to die and I'm sorry for the family's loss.

I can't imagine being in the parents position of losing their son and then reading vile threads like this.

I have no idea why they are asking for more money and I have read some of the news articles about Jay's past but I think that's all a side issue. He was a 19 year old who made an error of judgement that cost him his life. It's so very sad to think how he might have felt when he fell and what happened afterwards.

I have a feeling had he been a middle class boy from Surrey then the reaction would be different regardless of his past.

@janintherain, @Cocoda

In 2021, Jay, along with seven other youths, ambushed and chased fellow teen Tom Hilton in Rishton, Lancashire, attacking him with a machete, golf clubs, and an axe. Tom, who likened his attackers to 'a pack of gorillas', was left with a split skull following the assault, as well as injuries to his shoulders and legs.

Judge Parry stated: "You should all eight be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves but I am not at all convinced you are. Many of you have found these proceedings amusing throughout the trial and yesterday and today, showing disrespect to the court."

Jay also had priors for assault and drug dealing. I certainly don't think anyone should die in a stupid accident, and I do find it extra sad that he was so young. It hasn't transformed him into a saint, though: he was who he was.

The difference between this family and those of the hundreds of other young people missing right now, or found dead, isn't class. It's the incredible amount of publicity and money they have generated.

The income of the family is irrelevant. Rich and poor set up these begging pages

As I understand it they are a non profit. This doesnt mean they don't charge, only that they dont make anything. I read the go fund me money paid for them to go over and search. They are very specialist so the cost of travel and transporting equipment alone may have been a lot. Also repatriation is expensive

So philosophically, are you suggesting that when a person dies, all their misdemeanours, nasty acts, horrid comjments, all the wrong they wrought on people/society, are automatically cancelled because those left behind are upset?
Surely then, all the good things they did are also cancelled.

Somehow, people in this country canonise people when they die: no one ever admits their friend/relative/colleague was an arsehole,nor did shitty things

What sort of a comment is that? Don't speak ill of the living would be more apt.

As I just posted, attitudes such as this reflect the collective insanity of this country when someone dies. No matter what kind of a person they were alive, they are on the road to beatification before the grave is filled (or the cameras havexstopped rolling)

I do if you're a fucker in life you're still a fucker in death.
I wouldn't go to a funeral if I didn't respect the person in life.

You think everyone in Palestine is a terrorist? Yes I’m sure all those children who just want to be able to go to school are definitely in on it. Ordinary people like you or I live there as well you know.

This is Mumsnet, we'll speak ill of whom we damn well please.

I read that and yes I think she has been through the worse loosing her son. However, asking for more donations made me feel uncomfortable when reading it. It is up to the people who decide to make more donations. I know I wouldn’t.

The Signi Zoekhondon team are volunteers. They flew out on the 15th, the same day Jay's remains were found by Tenerife police. I don't know what donation Debbie will be making to them, but I do know she's retained them to stay this week, searching for any of Jay's possessions the police search team may have missed. If she is paying them £52k, that's a very expensive shoelace or whatever they might find (if anything).

The whole thing's absurd. She hasn't once applauded the Tenerife search team for scrambling up and down those rocks for days and finding her son. The UK press is still quoting her that the "local police" stopped searching two weeks ago, and she was bloody rude about both the Tenerife force and the Guardia Civil who deployed planes and helicopters at the Spanish people's expense.

Repatriation of a body costs £2k - £6k according to the govt, cheaper if it's ashes. If she's having a marble sarcophagus made in Tenerife and flying him home in that, I guess it will be pricier.

But, at what value was the 'go fund me' page at when she requested more donations? I'm not in the UK.

there is enough hate on the other thread.
so bring more hate why dont you

This was the same poster who wrote A lot of it is simple prejudice because they are white, Northern, and working class.

And talked about there being more sympathy if they were from a racial minority.

Yes, society is so prejudiced towards the white working class. 🙄

Who is Lucy?

Pffft ... maybe she's paying the search teams to find the stolen Rolex

My only concern is it's always those who least have it that donate

And I still want my £20 back from that captain tom woman - white and MIDDLE class

I'm not defending the gfm and won't be donating but having just looked at it it clearly wasn't started the same day.

If you're going to criticize at least get the basics right

Its a worldwide website, you don't need to be in the UK to see it

I never donate via any Gofundme platform for same reason. Prefer to go direct to charity.

Jay had never been charged or convicted with drug dealing.

Probably you’re thinking of the guy who rented the AirBnB he went back to.

A mother is grieving. Nobody is being forced to donate. Just ignore as it’s nothing to do with you.

Same goes for people who don’t insure their pets then expect other people to fork out for high vet bills 🙄🙄

Totally agree with this from @PyongyangKipperbang

'A similar thing happened locally to me.

A lad of 19 died on his scooter, he was using it for drug runs and was an absolute arsehole. He was violent and threatening.

But when he wrapped it, and himself, around a tree, he was a caring loving son, a great friend etc. The shop I worked in was stripped of flowers to lay at the site because word had got around that there would be cameras. Some of the girls especially looked like they were ready to go clubbing.

Its all about wanting to be seen on SM or on TV.

When my DD's best friend was murdered in Jerusalem 8 years ago this happened too. Interviews on Sky with her "besties" because DD and their other mutual best friend couldnt face talking about it, so Sky would just interview anyone who said that they knew her. The victims father said that he was disgusted about how so many of her so called "friends" had actually been vile to her in school and turned up to her funeral dressed like it was a party as they thought cameras would be there'.

Young people die tragically all the time and while that obviously affects those involved it's a non story really.
It initially got so much coverage off the back of the Michael Moseley tragedy and then gained traction because of the criminal links and mawkish gossip, even the vile TikTokers getting involved become a story , people love to gossip and judge and this story had it all.

The red top media are still posting non stories about it and will be looking forward to a divisive and tacky huge 'send off' with photo opportunities at every turn they can feed to the public to either sneer at, get angry about or to grieve vulture over.
They are probably willing it on.

His parents managed to raise a young son to be a violent drug dealer of course they will be taking every opportunity thrown to them.

£3500-£5000 repatriation
Funeral what you choose to pay I suppose.